China in space ...

[Takeda Shingen]

From the Americans, CNN:
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/10/14/china.launch/index.html

From the British, BBC:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3192330.stm

What are your thoughts?

 

[WoodPeckr]

All is relative.....

Funny a few years ago China could never have afforded a space program. Glad to see that "free trade" is working for somebody, and allowing the government of China to have plenty of disposible cash to persue a space venture. Gee.... pretty soon the "grounded" US space program may even start flying again so they don't have to rely on Russian support and help.

Hard to believe that the US put men on the moon over 30 years ago given the present state NASA finds itself in.

 

[Raven_x]

What are your thoughts? [/B][/QUOTE]

Good job to China! WOO HOO!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[anon1]

A waste of time, money and effort. Manned space flight is a deadend. The Russians and Americans have given up on it.

 

[E_B_Samaritano]

Anon1,

Your comments tend to be the only ones that have technical merit and are not jabs at the US evil empire.


Woodpeckr,

I find your comments particularly curious. Are you a US citizen? Who are you to criticize our choice of using our tax dollars in a way that is consistent with our national priorities? If you guys want to launch a hockey puck into space, get busy. Otherwise don't come with an off the cuff remark about the US relying on Russian space technology. If the Russians had nothing, we had not only the means but men with the balls to jump on our exisiting space vehicles to accomplish a rescue. In the spirit of international cooperation, afterfall that is what is so much tauted by the rest of the world as the thing the US does not honor, we fully relied on our partners in the space station effort..that being the Soviets and deferred to their 1970's technology for the purpose of retrieving the astronauts. BTW--that would be the same purchased yet modified technology that the Chinese used to launch their astronaut into space. Hardly a technical triump based on Chinese capability alone. I for one am happy that the Russians were able to pull some weight. If it hadn't been for us keeping them afloat, they wouldn't have had the financial means to launch that rescue mission. And as for a space station, nobody other than the US has the payload capability in terms of rockets or a vehicle like the shuttle to even think about such a project. So that would be a nice swipe, but ludicrous.

EBS

 

[E_B_Samaritano]

Re: Re: China in space ...

What are your thoughts?

Good job to China! WOO HOO!!!!!!!!!!! [/B][/QUOTE]


YAAAAAWN.....

EBS

 

[papasmerf]

One would have thought the monies from free trade and most valued trading partner. Might have been better used to aid the people of China. But grand dreams require unlimited funding.

 

[Marshall Stack]

Just hope they don't driver rockets the way they drive cars. If they do, guard your satelites! If there isn't enough debris floating around up there...

 

[WhOiSyOdAdDy?]

I think another 10 years and China will be the leader in space travel... and i think china will go to the moon before the usa returns to it.

There will be another space race

China has a few thinds that the USA does not... superior industrial espionage... and the funds to do whatever they want

 

[Goober Mcfly]

What REALLY happened on the first moon landing.... (need sound)

http://www.blogjam.com/neil_armstrong/

 

[WoodPeckr]

Originally posted by E_B_Samaritano


Woodpeckr,

I find your comments particularly curious......

As was my original intent. Yes I am a US citizen and a Viet Nam Vet, so I know a bit about the ways our tax dollars are spent, or is it mis-spent, in ways "consistent with our national priorites" at some particular point in time.

There is an excellent special on PBS on that Soviet space program that almost beat the US to the moon, worth seeing if you can catch it. It documents how after WWII the Soviets did indeed get the better German rocket experts to staff the Soviet space program and had perfected rockets that were "10 times" more powerful than those of the US. Our CIA did get evidence of this, turned it over to NASA and our scientists for study. In the end it was dismissed as impossible, our error. That shabby 60s and 70s Soviet rocket technology is presently in use in the US space program. The US did get to use "1" of those Soviet rockets to launch a comm/spy satellite recently. That same launch before required "5" US rockets clustered together! The Soviets always had the "muscle" in paylaod capability far beyond the US but the US beat them in sub-miniaturization capability out of necessity....our rockets just didn't have the balls.

No doubt China is using updated Soviet technology, now that they have the money thanks to "free trade" policy which greatly benifits them more than the US. In the end everyone is happy. The US thinks it's moving China towards democracy. China gets our jobs, technology and a great trade exchange which will keep them from collapsing like the Soviets. But the ones winning the most are Corporations in the US who profit the most by all the "free trade" involved. In the end what Corportions want is all that matters...they call all the shots.

WP

 

[Goober Mcfly]

Problem is, an hour later they feel like they need another launch.

 

[Raven_x]

YAAAAAWN.....

EBS [/B][/QUOTE]

Ok, i am a chinese, of course i am proud of my country so stfu!

 

[thecoolguyms72]

Now this......

Problem is, an hour later they feel like they need another launch.

.........is funny.

 

[Quest4Less]

Re: All is relative.....

Hard to believe that the US put men on the moon over 30 years ago given the present state NASA finds itself in.

Did they really.....? I wonder......

 

[ShizzleMaNizzle]

I say good for them. I mean, shooting a huge chunk of metal into outer space with a dude inside can't go unapplauded.

 

[thighspy]

Reluctant Spectator

To bad, China did not get any of those clever German Scientist after 1945,they would have been on the Moon a long time ago,just like the Yanks.
But,since the Chinese invented the Rocket,it seems only fair,that they should also contaminate the stratosphere and Outerspace.
Just imagine :Hamburger wrappers--Casha buckets --and now even Chop sticks--Progress--Woopeeee.
Life is too short to hurry.

 

[HowardHughes]

I honestly think the Americans should really get their heads around the problems of the space shuttle disaster - I think America has the resources and the technology to do a lot more. I think what America should be gunning for is a manned mission to Mars - now that would be tres cool.

As for the Chinese wanting another launch an hour later...had me laughing out loud!

And the Russians...they can't afford lunch, let alone another launch.

 

[onthebottom]

That's funny

I think another 10 years and China will be the leader in space travel... and i think china will go to the moon before the usa returns to it.

Why return to the moon, now Mars on the otherhand.

There will be another space race

Competition can be a good thing - cooperation is cheaper.

China has a few thinds that the USA does not... superior industrial espionage... and the funds to do whatever they want

I'd rather have superior technology than a way to steal it and I wouldn't think the US is short on cash.

OTB

 

[ShizzleMaNizzle]

the exploration of space is something worthy of applause. The effort, organization and technology to do this is quite an achievement.

Well shit on me and call me stinky. red and I agree on something!