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pussylicker

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NDP considering offer to keep Liberals afloat
Canadian Press

OTTAWA — The NDP could seek a long-term agreement to prop up the Liberal government in exchange for a handful of concessions, party officials said Wednesday.

Fresh from winning $4.6 billion more for its priorities in return for helping the Liberals survive a confidence vote, the NDP is upping the ante and contemplating a more wide-ranging deal.

The party inched closer to holding the balance of power in the House of Commons after this week's Labrador byelection gave the Liberals another seat.

They will use their newfound clout to push the government on NDP priorities such as electoral reform, the environment and protection for pensioners.

But the party won't approach the Liberals with any offer until after NDP members discuss possible working scenarios at a caucus meeting next week.

"It's possible that one scenario would be one agreement that would keep (the Liberals) in place,'' said NDP spokesman Jamey Heath.

"It's equally possible that it would be one step at a time....

"In return for three or four items it is possible that we could certainly find an arrangement that would keep Parliament working.''

But any deal would not include NDP MPs sitting in a Liberal cabinet as part of a formal coalition government, he said.

Before making any offer, NDP Leader Jack Layton will take the pulse of his caucus to get a feel for their priorities.

"We'll obviously have discussions with our caucus,'' said NDP House Leader Libby Davies. "At this point it's too early to say what will happen -- other than to say I feel very confident that both our leader and caucus as a whole will play the same kind of ... very constructive, very responsible role in Parliament.''

The NDP rescued the minority Liberals from the jaws of defeat in last week's nailbiter of a vote on the federal budget.

The Liberals secured 19 NDP votes by adding $4.6 billion for housing, the environment, foreign aid and education to their budget.

Thanks to a Liberal byelection win in Labrador on Tuesday, a Liberal-NDP alliance now has a better chance of survival even in the absence of cancer-stricken Independent MP Chuck Cadman, who cast the deciding vote last week.

The byelection win means that, with the NDP, Independent Carolyn Parrish and a tie-breaking vote by Speaker Peter Milliken, the government would have the 154 required votes to survive a confidence motion.

Layton wants the revised budget passed before the parliamentary summer break, scheduled to begin June 23 -- no easy task considering the NDP and Liberals are outnumbered by the Tories and Bloc on the Commons Finance committee.

It's not clear what life expectancy any further NDP-Liberal deal could have.

Prime Minister Paul Martin has promised to call an election early next year, after Justice John Gomery issues his report on the sponsorship scandal.

"Paul Martin has made his bed and he's going to have to lie in it.... That's his problem,'' Heath said.

Meanwhile, the Conservatives appear increasingly unlikely to try to bring down the government in the foreseeable future.

Though deputy leader Peter MacKay didn't explicitly rule out an election, he did predict on Wednesday a new period of stability in Parliament.

He said his party must use the electoral lull to explain to voters what positive changes a Conservative government would bring.

"We have to be more diligent in projecting a policy position and communicating to Canadians where we stand on a whole range of options,'' MacKay said in an interview.

"And (we should be) appearing in a more positive, thoughtful way. As opposed to being detractors and critics, we've got to be constructive, articulate and passionate about our country.''

But he couldn't resist a shot at the Liberal-NDP budget deal that kept Martin in power.

"The prime minister is on a spendaholic-type spending spree where he just can't help himself,'' MacKay said.

"If this continues it's going to wreck the fiscal framework of the country.''

Well folks, is this what Canadians want?

The NDP can really try and put the screws to us now, and cost us jobs, as well as implement tax hikes.
 

slowpoke

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The NDP will only get to support the Libs until the promised election 30 days after Gomery releases his final report. And the other two parties have more or less promised to lay off the non confidence motions for a while so I wouldn't get too excited about this "long term" agreement.
 

happygrump

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Hmmm... Liberals aligning with the NDP, or the Cons aligning with the Bloc.

One wants more social spending. The other wants to break up the country.

One wants more money into healthcare. The other wants to break up the country.

One wants to delay another multi-billion dollar corporate tax cut. The other wants to break up the country.

One wants to get a national child care program off the ground. The other wants to break up the country.

One wants to push for the decriminalization of mariajuana offences and prostitution. The other wants to break up the country.

I suppose it's a tough call, unless you actually care about the future of the country.
 

wop

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It never ceases to amaze me how Canadians (of which I am one) take themselves and their politics so seriously.
In reality, the bureaucrats actually run things (poorly) and who we elect makes little impact on day to day life.
The rest is showboating and posturing, all in an effort to secure a future, that the average politician would not otherwise have a chance for, in the private sector. Such a joke.
I have little faith in the Canadian (gutless) style of Government at all 3 levels, and even less faith in the Canadian electorate (us) to cast an informed and decisive ballot.
The evidence is all around us, in the erosion of services and infrastructure, and in the slow decline of our quality of life.
20 years ago, we were on top of the World, and now the rest of the World has passed us by.
It makes me sad.
 

red

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wop said:
It never ceases to amaze me how Canadians (of which I am one) take themselves and their politics so seriously.
In reality, the bureaucrats actually run things (poorly) and who we elect makes little impact on day to day life.
The rest is showboating and posturing, all in an effort to secure a future, that the average politician would not otherwise have a chance for, in the private sector. Such a joke.
I have little faith in the Canadian (gutless) style of Government at all 3 levels, and even less faith in the Canadian electorate (us) to cast an informed and decisive ballot.
The evidence is all around us, in the erosion of services and infrastructure, and in the slow decline of our quality of life.
20 years ago, we were on top of the World, and now the rest of the World has passed us by.
It makes me sad.
we were on top of the world in 1985?
 

Keebler Elf

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What part of the rest of the world has passed us by?

The grass is always greener on the other side... ;)
 

auto doctor

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happygrump said:
Hmmm... Liberals aligning with the NDP, or the Cons aligning with the Bloc.

One wants more social spending. The other wants to break up the country.

One wants more money into healthcare. The other wants to break up the country.

One wants to delay another multi-billion dollar corporate tax cut. The other wants to break up the country.

One wants to get a national child care program off the ground. The other wants to break up the country.

One wants to push for the decriminalization of mariajuana offences and prostitution. The other wants to break up the country.

I suppose it's a tough call, unless you actually care about the future of the country.

Fucking Right.......That is the botom line....well said
 

pussylicker

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happygrump said:
Hmmm... Liberals aligning with the NDP, or the Cons aligning with the Bloc.

One wants more social spending. The other wants to break up the country.

One wants more money into healthcare. The other wants to break up the country.

One wants to delay another multi-billion dollar corporate tax cut. The other wants to break up the country.

One wants to get a national child care program off the ground. The other wants to break up the country.

One wants to push for the decriminalization of mariajuana offences and prostitution. The other wants to break up the country.

I suppose it's a tough call, unless you actually care about the future of the country.
Social spending hasn't proven anything at keeping the economy alive, except it takes money from my pocket and puts it in someone elses, who can't be responsible, and it gets wasted on cigs and booze instead of feeding kids. Who profits? Tabacco and beer companies instead of the social fabric of the country.

Funny, but Quebec already has privatized healthcare available, but it's not ok for other provinces to have it. It has been proven to work at eliminating waiting times, and the Federal Liberals have done nothing to stop it. The Liberals are the ones responsible for the clawback in healthcare spending, forcing private companies to try and fill the void.

I don't know where you come from, but the Government can't create real jobs, and the jobs they do create don't happen without them pick pocketing our wallets. Tax breaks will keep some companies alive in Ontario, and Canada, keeping real people employed, and spending money, keeping the economy of this country alive. The community that I grew up in has lost a couple of manufacturing plants, as well as surounding communities losing manufacturing plants as well. Lost jobs forces people to look to welfare for handouts.

A recent study showed that for profit indy childcare isn't as bad as the Liberals and NDP claim it is. I know several poeple who provide such a service, and they spend more time with the children they look after than the JK system does. Another way to get the citizens of this country into a warehouse atmosphere, like our elderly are. Seniors are the worst treated people in this country. Criminals get treated better. Do we want our kids growing up in a warehouse system and treated like a number? You wonder why crime is up? Parents need to spend more time with their chilren, rather than shirking reponsibility, by letting someone else THE SYSTEM look after them. Ken Dryden is a has been, and still hasn't done anything positive in the past 11 months.

The only reason you hate the BLOC, is that they get what they want from Ottawa, and the Federal Liberals have been giving it to them. This country was meant to be RULED BY the FRENCH and the ROMAN CATHOLICS from the start. I don't see the rest of Canada getting equal treatment anytime soon.

Paul Martin and Jack Layton must be smoking something, because they've jumped into bed to be the biggest pimps out there
 

Captain Biggles

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Paul Martin and Jack Layton must be smoking something, because they've jumped into bed to be the biggest pimps out there[/QUOTE]

Well at least both of them want to make smoking something and jumping into bed together legal.
 

red

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pussylicker said:
The only reason you hate the BLOC, is that they get what they want from Ottawa, and the Federal Liberals have been giving it to them. This country was meant to be RULED BY the FRENCH and the ROMAN CATHOLICS from the start. I don't see the rest of Canada getting equal treatment anytime soon.
any other groups you want on your list?
 

langeweile

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Another way to get the citizens of this country into a warehouse atmosphere, like our elderly are. Seniors are the worst treated people in this country. Criminals get treated better. Do we want our kids growing up in a warehouse system and treated like a number? You wonder why crime is up? Parents need to spend more time with their chilren, rather than shirking reponsibility, by letting someone else THE SYSTEM look after them.
This is one of the best paragraphs I have read on TERB in a while.Especially interesting since I grew up in a "warehouse system".

It is obsurd that we have come to a point, where a family can't be supported by just one income anymore. Especially when 40% of my income gets eaten up by taxes??As a solution we raise taxes even more, so the goverment can take care of them for you????

Am I the only one that thinks this is stupid???
 

thighspy

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Heil to the Bureaucrates.

WOP--I totally agree with your assessment,of,who is the real power in Ottawa. (Bureaucrates) The Socialist-Communist Alliance, is a real reflection of the Canadian Electorate--Basically Communist ever since Trudeau.
The spending proposed by this idiotic bunch will most likely double your Taxes in 5 years.But,that is in the Future,is'nt it.
The only good thing these guys did,was not to go along with the Yanks in their quest for revenge on a very heples group of religious fanatics.

My remedy for all this--EXile.
 

johnhenrygalt

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happygrump said:
Hmmm... Liberals aligning with the NDP, or the Cons aligning with the Bloc.

One wants more social spending. The other wants to break up the country.

One wants more money into healthcare. The other wants to break up the country.

One wants to delay another multi-billion dollar corporate tax cut. The other wants to break up the country.

One wants to get a national child care program off the ground. The other wants to break up the country.

One wants to push for the decriminalization of mariajuana offences and prostitution. The other wants to break up the country.

I suppose it's a tough call, unless you actually care about the future of the country.
The foregoing is one of the more obtuse lines of reasoning. The Liberals cozied up to the separatists on gay marriage, pork for Bombardier, Iraq, missile defence, Kyoto and other issues. The Bloc and the Tories were on the same page on the sole issue of defeating a corrupt government. Beyond that the Tories have no truck or trade with separatists.
 

red

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johnhenrygalt said:
The foregoing is one of the more obtuse lines of reasoning. The Liberals cozied up to the separatists on gay marriage, pork for Bombardier, Iraq, missile defence, Kyoto and other issues. The Bloc and the Tories were on the same page on the sole issue of defeating a corrupt government. Beyond that the Tories have no truck or trade with separatists.
you mean bouchard wasn't a leading member of the mulroney gov't?
 

happygrump

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pussylicker said:
...Tax breaks will keep some companies alive in Ontario, and Canada, keeping real people employed, and spending money, keeping the economy of this country alive.
That's supply side economics, long since duly discredited. Proof is in your following sentence...

pussylicker said:
The community that I grew up in has lost a couple of manufacturing plants, as well as surounding communities losing manufacturing plants as well. Lost jobs forces people to look to welfare for handouts.
It's a tragedy when communities lose their only source of employment. It's even worse when it could have been avoided. But all the tax breaks on the planet won't help a factory that has lost its market due to changing circumstances or market forces. A producer of horseshoes will find a very limited market, regardless of tax incentives.
 

johnhenrygalt

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red said:
you mean bouchard wasn't a leading member of the mulroney gov't?
While a member of the Government, M. Bouchard supported the Meech Lake Accord and Quebec's signing of the federal Constitution. By way of comparison, Jean Lapierre, Martin's Quebec lieutenant, is a former Bloquiste. He currently supports federalism. Should he, like Bouchard, change his mind and rejoin the ranks of the separatists, I wouldn't blame the Liberals for it.
 

pussylicker

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johnhenrygalt said:
The foregoing is one of the more obtuse lines of reasoning. The Liberals cozied up to the separatists on gay marriage, pork for Bombardier, Iraq, missile defence, Kyoto and other issues. The Bloc and the Tories were on the same page on the sole issue of defeating a corrupt government. Beyond that the Tories have no truck or trade with separatists.
Thank you
 
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