PurpleMonkey said:
I bought those "energy saving" florescent lightbulbs a couple years back to switch it with those traditional bulbs and on the package they say "Gauranteed 7 years" however, one blew this morning....um...least to say, it hasn't been 7 years.
Can someome please recommend me the best brand to buy in terms of longivity and overall brightness? And where do they sell your recommended brand?
Mine is a 13 watt (suppose to look like 60w but is nothing like it), I bought it at Walmart. I saw Fortinos has some Sylvannia but I don't really trust this brand and wasn't too sure if I should try.
Anyone?
Firstly, it does not make sense to change every bulb to CFL. Choose bulbs you use the most IE: kitchen, range hood, family room, living room, bathroom. If it is a closet, or a room you do not use often, it does not make sense to change the lamp as the cost payback will be far too long. If you have lamps which are in a hard to reach location, it makes sense to use a quality CFL as you have to change them much less often than a regular or even a halogen lamp (IE in a soffit). Most quality CFL's last 10-12 times as long as most incandescent lamps and approx 5 times as long as most halogen lamps.
Secondly, getting away from energy savings. If you have a fixture that has a maximum wattage rating (IE 60W) and you feel that you are not getting enough light out of the 60W lamp... instead of putting a 13-15W CFL in, put a higher wattage CFL in, if it will fit physically. There are some 23W-28W CFL's that are fairly small and will put much more light than a 100W incandescent lamp.
Thirdly. CFL's are also great because they are available in many different colours
27K - warm white (colour of incandescent lamps) orange / pink tone to light
30K - warm white
35K - colour of halogen lamps - somewhat neutral light
41K - cool white - slight blue tone to light
50K - daylight - could be called "full spectrum" - appear much brighter than other colours of same wattage lamps
The brand I prefer is Panasonic, as long as you do not buy their economy lamp
Also, if it is any consolation, the parliament building in BC uses CFL's made by TCP to light its exterior each night
http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/00/13/ee/73/parliament-building-at.jpg
As to where to buy them.. I am sure you can find that info online.... but if it is for your home.. just go to a local retailer and buy the cheap crap as it will be more than adequate for your use (LED will most likely replace CFL's in the next 5-7 years). Sylvania is a decent name... like any other brand.. they have professional grade lamps and residential grade (retail). If you want the higher end lamps and a greater selection of lamps, you must go to where most businesses purchase their lamps and it is not at any retail outlet or box store.
The Bandit said:
They do have dimmable one's now.
Dimmable CFL's do not last as long as non-dimming.
Also.. LED lamps have not had time to be perfected. The technology is still developing for incandescent / CFL replacement in the residential market. For now CFL is the way to go. LED is not a proven technology. At 120VAC, LED clusters do not last as long as they should as they generate a lot of heat. Heat kills LED's prematurely. Wait a few years before buying LED as the technology improves (with reliability). The cost for LED's will come down as they become mainstream.
oldjones said:
Just wondering: My bulbs don't last either, but the ones that went were all in ceiling fixtures where the base is up.
It is simple. Heat rises. Heat damages electronic components in the ballast, causing premature failure. Cheap lamps use cheap components (you get what you pay for).
There are lamps rated for use outdoors (cold temperatures) - Panasonic is rated for -30 on many lamps
Most lamps are not rated for use in an enclosed fixture. The heat has no means of escape and shortens the life of most bulbs. Panasonic has lamps rated for enclosed fixtures.
Most people do not want to pay the price for quality lamps for their house.
Also, if you CFL lamps are not meant to be used in outdoor fixtures that use a motion sensor. When there is a motion sensor, there is a trickle current which could cause the lamp to flicker dimly when it is off, shortening the life of the bulb. Not to mention that it will not come on right away at full brightness when there is motion.
One more thing. If you have lighted switches in your residence, there is a good chance that they will not work with a CFL for the same reason they are not recommended for use with a motion sensor... and it is pretty annoying to see the lamp flicker when the switch is OFF, when it is dark!