Busted in States?

peetscoffee

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Anyone here busted for hiring an Escort in the States? Got convicted? Any trouble flying to US for holidays or business with a record?
 

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Anyone here busted for hiring an Escort in the States? Got convicted? Any trouble flying to US for holidays or business with a record?
Not I but any criminal act and many other things show up when the run your passport if your NOT a US citizen they do not have to allow you to enter
 

peetscoffee

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Can they see criminal convictions when running passport for a Misdemeanor (a municipal level offense)? Hobbying is a Misdemeanor, lower than a DUI for example.
 

stinkynuts

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Anyone here busted for hiring an Escort in the States? Got convicted? Any trouble flying to US for holidays or business with a record?
Not me, but somone I know had their life ruined. Was charged in a setup where the girl said she was 17 when they met (but not in the ad). He was arrested and expelled. He had to leave the country, lost his girlfriend. Just weeks from graduating in engineering. His entire life was ruined.
 

peetscoffee

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If she said she was 17, he would've been jailed for 2 years. I guess he got lucky that he got expelled.
 

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Relative of a friend here in the US banned from Canada for a "drive off" when he was a teenager. Having the ban lifted requires a long and convoluted legal process...
 

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Lots of stings in USA where cops book ladies and arrest or pose as ladies and arrest clients. I would not do it in the USA. Ever. Only exception if it was a Canadian lady I knew before who was in the USA. Never a first time stranger. Had a mate go to a legal joint in Nevada everything is negotiated (bj, russian, etc etc) ended up US$700 for around 45 mins. Not worth it given the high quality ladies in Canada. I watched that HBO Cathouse series and there were few ladies who impressed me to the level of GTA talent.
 

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Yikes. Even arrest. Oh boy. I thought only when fingerprinted, not by running your passport.
Personal experience from foolishness at 19.

At the border they tend to ask "have you ever been arrested", not if you've ever been convicted (and they already know the answer). If you assume they mean conviction and answer no, then they can use that as an excuse to send you to further questioning, tear apart your luggage or vehicle or even reject you if they are in a bad mood. And yes, I know someone who had an embarrassing situation when crossing the border because of this.

If your arrest resulted in no charges, dismissal, or you beat the charges, they then make a decision about whether to let you in or not and unless you were charged with a major crime, it is left up to the border cop's judgement. To avoid hassles I ended up getting a nexus card so I'm pre-cleared. There is also a way allegedly to get the US to expunge your police record but I never looked into it.
 

stinkynuts

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Lots of stings in USA where cops book ladies and arrest or pose as ladies and arrest clients. I would not do it in the USA. Ever. Only exception if it was a Canadian lady I knew before who was in the USA. Never a first time stranger. Had a mate go to a legal joint in Nevada everything is negotiated (bj, russian, etc etc) ended up US$700 for around 45 mins. Not worth it given the high quality ladies in Canada. I watched that HBO Cathouse series and there were few ladies who impressed me to the level of GTA talent.
It would be extremely foolish to hobby in the States.So many stings, and just takes one time to ruin your life
 

onomatopoeia

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They can see any arrest record, whether or not there is a conviction and don't need to give a reason for refusing you access.
In 2007, I was falsely accused of minor assault by a former neighbour, who had actually assaulted me, but told the cops he was the victim. Since the police didn't ask for jail time in the event of conviction, (they only asked for a DNA sample), I didn't qualify for court-appointed counsel at the trial date, but I successfully defended myself, and won acquittal, without having to present my defense case, through the cross examination of the two prosecution witnesses. I had refused the Crown's offer to have charges dropped after the first cross.

As was my right, I applied in writing to the police department to have the record of my arrest, my fingerprints, and mug shot expunged from the their records, and about a year later, I got a letter from the RCMP, confirming that this had been done. I don't think border guards would have a record of this arrest.

If I had accepted the Crown's offer to have charges dropped, I could not have applied to have the arrest records removed. If I had not made the written request to the police, they could have kept the arrest record, fingerprints, and mug shot on file, despite my acquittal.
 

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In 2007, I was falsely accused of minor assault by a former neighbour, who had actually assaulted me, but told the cops he was the victim. Since the police didn't ask for jail time in the event of conviction, (they only asked for a DNA sample), I didn't qualify for court-appointed counsel at the trial date, but I successfully defended myself, and won acquittal, without having to present my defense case, through the cross examination of the two prosecution witnesses. I had refused the Crown's offer to have charges dropped after the first cross.

As was my right, I applied in writing to the police department to have the record of my arrest, my fingerprints, and mug shot expunged from the their records, and about a year later, I got a letter from the RCMP, confirming that this had been done. I don't think border guards would have a record of this arrest.

If I had accepted the Crown's offer to have charges dropped, I could not have applied to have the arrest records removed. If I had not made the written request to the police, they could have kept the arrest record, fingerprints, and mug shot on file, despite my acquittal.
the us just might they don't care what your rights are in Canada IE they don't recognize pardons the have access to pretty much all records you wont know until you try
 

onomatopoeia

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the us just might they don't care what your rights are in Canada IE they don't recognize pardons the have access to pretty much all records you wont know until you try
A pardon and an acquittal are two very different things. If I was denied entry to the US based only on the the arrest, I could possibly have grounds for civil damages against the Toronto police, based on the specific facts and evidence of my case. Some cops will arrest anyone, if someone calls 911, and wants to 'press charges', as if the complainant should decide whether or not an arrest is made, regardless of whether or not there is any or sufficient evidence for an arrest.

If a cop's primary focus is making money, arresting someone that they know isn't guilty is a good strategy. If someone is guilty of the charge, and pleads guilty at arraignment, there's no trial, and no overtime pay for at least one court appearance. If someone is not guilty, but pleads guilty at arraignment, they don't belong in jail, but they might need some psychiatric care. Someone who is not guilty, and pleads not guilty, almost guarantees at least eight hours addition pay at time and a half, just for showing up in court, whether or not they testify. A subpoena isn't necessary for the arresting officer, or the detective who files the charges.
 

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A pardon and an acquittal are two very different things. If I was denied entry to the US based only on the the arrest, I could possibly have grounds for civil damages against the Toronto police, based on the specific facts and evidence of my case. Some cops will arrest anyone, if someone calls 911, and wants to 'press charges', as if the complainant should decide whether or not an arrest is made, regardless of whether or not there is any or sufficient evidence for an arrest.

If a cop's primary focus is making money, arresting someone that they know isn't guilty is a good strategy. If someone is guilty of the charge, and pleads guilty at arraignment, there's no trial, and no overtime pay for at least one court appearance. If someone is not guilty, but pleads guilty at arraignment, they don't belong in jail, but they might need some psychiatric care. Someone who is not guilty, and pleads not guilty, almost guarantees at least eight hours addition pay at time and a half, just for showing up in court, whether or not they testify. A subpoena isn't necessary for the arresting officer, or the detective who files the charges.
I aware of the difference

if/when you are asked have you been arrested what's your answer? your info was/is in the system the US is under no obligation to delete it if they had it unless you have a US passport they do not have to let anyone in they might not even give you a reason
 

onomatopoeia

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I aware of the difference

if/when you are asked have you been arrested what's your answer? your info was/is in the system the US is under no obligation to delete it if they had it unless you have a US passport they do not have to let anyone in they might not even give you a reason
"I was once falsely accused of assault, I defended myself, and won acquittal, without having to present a defense case. The trial Judge deemed the complainant's testimony to be unreliable, and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police gave me written confirmation that all police records of the incident had been destroyed".
 

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"I was once falsely accused of assault, I defended myself, and won acquittal, without having to present a defense case. The trial Judge deemed the complainant's testimony to be unreliable, and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police gave me written confirmation that all police records of the incident had been destroyed".

try and cross let us know what happens (after covid)
 

peetscoffee

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Hey contact, are you sure border has arrest records for municipal level crimes? From what I know, the database they have access to is NCIC, which is a National/Federal database. Hobbying charges are at the Municipal level, sometimes at the County level, and not all Municipalities or Counties report this to FBI/NCIC.

I don't know any state that considers Hobbying at even State level, unless it involves underage.
 
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