West Drive Spa
Ashley Madison

Burlington for Massage and Happy Ending?

Micber

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I am visiting them tomorrow and may try Kiki. Was the 80 rate was it what they call body slide? Was there a bit of HJ?
 

Niagara_Man

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She probably only needed her hands to hold her boobs together as he said Russian finish.
That’s correct. She did start with her hands but then just got on the table and switched to Russian. Obviously, had her top and bra off.

As for the $80 … I’m not actually a REALLY big tipper, but my feeling is that I’m booking 90 minutes, not 30 or even 60, so the girl has to work a lot harder and could, potentially, be missing out on chances to earn more in tips through appointments of shorter duration. That’s not how everyone sees things, but my view is straightforward: if the girl works hard for 90 long minutes, I want her to be properly rewarded.
 
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yogi1

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That’s correct. She did start with her hands but then just got on the table and switched to Russian. Obviously, had her top and bra off.

As for the $80 … I’m not actually a REALLY big tipper, but my feeling is that I’m booking 90 minutes, not 30 or even 60, so the girl has to work a lot harder and could, potentially, be missing out on chances to earn more in tips through appointments of shorter duration. That’s not how everyone sees things, but my view is straightforward: if the girl works hard for 90 long minutes, I want her to be properly rewarded.
Curious as to how you would rate her service and massage. Compare to Karen?
 

yogi1

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The main reason for no extras is when a client indicates a no or low tip. I've always had great response to my requests and I treat the ladies with respect and a tip reflecting the service given??
I feel that if we are unhappy with the service, OR lack of, you should discuss the situation with the manager. Both managers are determined to raise the standards of the ladies and the spa and have been very pro active with complaints.
 

MuffDiver

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I might have to take a drive. Sure as shit there's nothing in St. Catharines I would consider reputable or worth the money.
 

Niagara_Man

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I might have to take a drive. Sure as shit there's nothing in St. Catharines I would consider reputable or worth the money.
I live in the Niagara region, too, and make the drive to Retreat once per week. Of course, I usually have a work-related reason to travel into the general Burlington area and can arrange my schedule to accommodate a session. But I agree — there’s nothing in the St. Catharines area like Retreat and I won’t waste my money any more on 2nd rate establishments.
 
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Candymancan

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Sunny foot wouldn’t give me a HE
I've been there dozens of times as recent as last week. They always do a little tease before the flip and take the tent pole down after. Topless isn't usually available but YMMV.
 

Jabba0001

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my only problem with Retreat is that topless when available most times they have to be asked to take it off and not just do a quick lift up. At that stage of the session you want them to show some passion imo.
 

MuffDiver

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I've been there dozens of times as recent as last week. They always do a little tease before the flip and take the tent pole down after. Topless isn't usually available but YMMV.
Well that is a major red flag for me. I'll recant my comment of needing to take a drive to Burlington. The "lift my top" nonsense has happened to me in other places and has never been a good session for me. Thankfully it is rare, but if removing one's top is YMMV, then I will pass.
 

yogi1

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Well that is a major red flag for me. I'll recant my comment of needing to take a drive to Burlington. The "lift my top" nonsense has happened to me in other places and has never been a good session for me. Thankfully it is rare, but if removing one's top is YMMV, then I will pass.
That's actually great news as it opens up a spot for us !
 

MuffDiver

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That's actually great news as it opens up a spot for us !
My pleasure! Fortunately for you I have standards and do not settle for less. Based on the reviews I've read in the Niagara Region, some of the guys out here will jump anything with a pulse.
 

Niagara_Man

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my only problem with Retreat is that topless when available most times they have to be asked to take it off and not just do a quick lift up. At that stage of the session you want them to show some passion imo.
I’d largely agree — there isn’t much consistency from girl to girl, but at least the receptionists at Retreat will tell you how liberal a girl is beforehand. That’s something. Obviously, this information doesn’t help much if you’re a walk-in and taking whichever girl is available, but you can be pretty forthright about what you’re looking for if you send a text to book in advance.

For instance, for one of my recent appointments, Karen just asked directly if I was looking for an excellent deep tissue treatment or more fun. I could have responded with, “more fun with a girl who really takes off her top and bra instead of just pulling it up during the finish.” If I’d written that, Karen would have tried to book me with the right attendant. But there’s no guarantee a girl who does that will be on-shift when you want to book. It is what it is.

The semi-legit spa scene can be such a crapshoot. Some attendants focus on the “legit” part and provide an excellent massage and a fairly straight-forward happy ending, all fully clothed and without much erotic spirit. They usually don’t demand much of a tip ($40) because they are intentionally working within pretty strict limits. That’s their choice.

But others focus more on the “semi” part and expand their offerings beyond the fully-clothed happy ending. Top pulled up is a bit liberal ($60), top fully off is more liberal ($80), top fully off and pants pulled down is considered very liberal ($100). That’s pretty much as far as things are likely to go at a semi-legit and only a small number of attendants are hungry enough for tips to offer the last two. That’s why they choose to work at a semi-legit spa — they feel more like therapists and less like whores. Also their choice.

I remember booking 90 minutes at Blue Rain once and putting a $100 bill on the table as a tip at the beginning of the session. The girl clearly wasn’t sure just what to do to earn it, and she eventually got up on the table fully clothed and dry humped me cowgirl style for a solid 15 minutes, made hilarious Asian porn sounds, and finally finished me with her hands. I did the same thing at Limnos once and the girl (she was a heavier, bustier Asian lady) shucked her shirt and bra completely, sat cross-legged between my thighs, and performed a slow cock worship session while simulating oral. Even took the money shot right in the mask. That was different.

It’s all YMMV at semi-legits. Each girl has a different line she’ll brush up against but won’t cross.
 
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Candymancan

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I’d largely agree — there isn’t much consistency from girl to girl, but at least the receptionists at Retreat will tell you how liberal a girl is beforehand. That’s something. Obviously, this information doesn’t help much if you’re a walk-in and taking whichever girl is available, but you can be pretty forthright about what you’re looking for if you send a text to book in advance.

For instance, for one of my recent appointments, Karen just asked directly if I was looking for an excellent deep tissue treatment or more fun. I could have responded with, “more fun with a girl who really takes off her top and bra instead of just pulling it up during the finish.” If I’d written that, Karen would have tried to book me with the right attendant. But there’s no guarantee a girl who does that will be on-shift when you want to book. It is what it is.

The semi-legit spa scene can be such a crapshoot. Some attendants focus on the “legit” part and provide an excellent massage and a fairly straight-forward happy ending, all fully clothed and without much erotic spirit. They usually don’t demand much of a tip ($40) because they are intentionally working within pretty strict limits. That’s their choice.

But others focus more on the “semi” part and expand their offerings beyond the fully-clothed happy ending. Top pulled up is a bit liberal ($60), top fully off is more liberal ($80), top fully off and pants pulled down is considered very liberal ($100). That’s pretty much as far as things are likely to go at a semi-legit and only a small number of attendants are hungry enough for tips to offer the last two. That’s why they choose to work at a semi-legit spa — they feel more like therapists and less like whores. Also their choice.

I remember booking 90 minutes at Blue Rain once and putting a $100 bill on the table as a tip at the beginning of the session. The girl clearly wasn’t sure just what to do to earn it, and she eventually got up on the table fully clothed and dry humped me cowgirl style for a solid 15 minutes, made hilarious Asian porn sounds, and finally finished me with her hands. I did the same thing at Limnos once and the girl (she was a heavier, bustier Asian lady) shucked her shirt and bra completely, sat cross-legged between my thighs, and performed a slow cock worship session while simulating oral. Even took the money shot right in the mask. That was different.

It’s all YMMV at semi-legits. Each girl has a different line she’ll brush up against but won’t cross.
If you want to guarantee a full nude session, why not drive 5 munutes and drop into Cara.