Bullying: "Sometimes we screw up"

papasmerf

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By ignoring it you get crime free schools:rolleyes:
 

zanner69

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This is frickin ridiculous.
All you get from the school is "sometimes we screw up". And they are only paying for his busing til end of school year. Come on now. I think they are should be way more responsible than that.


http://www.pulse24.com/News/Top_Story/20060228-012/page.asp
“Sometimes we just screw up,” said Toronto Public School Trustee Shiela Cary-Meagher.

“I'm admitting that we all screwed up.”

perfect there is an admission by the trustee - do I smell a lawsuit against the Toronto Public School Board!!!!!
 

Brookstone

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zanner69 said:
“Sometimes we just screw up,” said Toronto Public School Trustee Shiela Cary-Meagher.

“I'm admitting that we all screwed up.”

perfect there is an admission by the trustee - do a smell a lawsuit against the Toronto Public School Board!!!!!
ya i hope thats what happens and they win tons of money. at that age, that boy should be having fun at school, esp during recess, lunch. They completely screwed him as well as the parents by ignoring these complaints. And it aint like this issue havent been brought up before.
I wont be able to watch the 2nd part tonite, hope someone can update the situation. Tomorrow i'm gonna write a email to pulse and complain about these teachers/principles. I hope tons of ppl are thinking the same thing and these staff involved disciplined?
That is possible right?
 

dj1470

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The Toronto Public School Board is hands down the worst, most inept, and incompetent school board in the world :mad: The trustees are a joke and the teachers (no matter how good they are) are in way over their heads. Hard to teach a class when you are too busy disarming the students.
 

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If that was my kid, I would have gotten the police involved as soon as noticed the scholl wasn't interested.

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A-ROD said:
If that was my kid, I would have gotten the police involved as soon as noticed the scholl wasn't interested.

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Cops wouldn't have done anything with the kids, but they should haul the principal and the teacher off. If memory serves me correct, they are responsible for the well being and safety of the children according to the Education Act. Not doing anything about the bullying would definitely mean that they are not concerned about the well being and safety of the children.

Saw the report, basically they got the school board to agree to pay for busing for as long as the kid needs it. As for the kids who bullied him, their parents were never told about their children's crimes. The kids were "dealt with"...in other words, they were given a stern talking to and nothing more.
 

red

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they should get whoever is doing this out of the schools
 

rama putri

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dj1470 said:
Hard to teach a class when you are too busy disarming the students.
Hello? It's Toronto, not NYC or Compton or South Chicago or Philly or Washington, DC...rhetoric is no excuse for poor teaching and a poor teaching environment.
 

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UMustang said:
Cops wouldn't have done anything with the kids, but they should haul the principal and the teacher off.
while the cops can't press charges (unless someof the kids harasing him were older, like grade 8) they can certainly remove the bully for the safety of this kid and others.
 

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I wonder if other kids in the school or other parents were notified of this incident, or are they keeping the names private to everyone.
If i was a parent , i most certainly would like to know if something like this happened at my kids school. I would not want my kids to be in the same school as the principals and teachers who are involved in this mess, by ignoring the cry of help of a child and childs mothers.

All the staff involved in this should, at the very least have something on their record of this and as well be pulled out of school not be able to teach anywhere. You can say that punishment would be severe, but what amount of punishment is more severe than what this boy and his family has endured and how its gonna impact them later on?

I certainly hope this boy recovers soon and this incident would not impact him further down in life.
Their excuse should have been " sometimes we just ignore incidents like this".

Is it at all possible for there to be charges on the staff involved? Like someone said earlier they are responsible for the childrens safety.
If a parent did this it would be considered as neglect no?
 

Garrett

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Something does not sound right..

The kid is sexually propositioned at 7, and the mother is at home waiting for someone to call her back? No indicator she ever followed up. I dunno... something just does not wash.

I think bullying is a real issue, but schools are generally run by politicians. A friend of mine had a bullying/harassment situation with his daughter... when the school did nothing about it... he did. The problem was solved.
 

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If you think back to your school days, you'll see that bullying is nothing new. A "good" bully is an amazing natural psychologist, able to cull the weak from the herd and choose those that are least likely to talk about it. They will never do something overt that will get them recognized, just continue a pattern of making someone hurt emotionally or phisically. Other student won't get involved for fear of becoming the next target. Even if the bully gets identified, the parents can always make it almost impossible to punnish as each specific incident seems like nothing. Even if a student gets suspended, they'll be back a few days latter with a grudge.

Most adults have grown up and survived some form of bullying. They will look on the overt behaviours such a violence/fighting as unfortunate parts of childhood or wonder how could a seemingly good child (we're talking 7 years old here) proposition another for sex. It will also be seen as "toughening them up" and good for becoming adult. The extent of bullying seems unreal; the complaints seem unimaginable. Unless we have children directly supervised on an almost one to one basis, it is unlikely that bullying will ever be stopped.

As an aside, I wonder how many students were in the class.
 

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It happened to me when I was a kid...

...and by grade 8 I eventually had had enough and after on off-colour comment one day I just whaled on this kid who was part of the 'in' crowd, and so felt it was his right to pick on me. I know people say that fighting isn't the right way to deal with a bully, but they're wrong.

I had so much pent-up rage at that point that I just kicked the living shit out of that kid derek; man, I loved the power trip I got out of looking at that whimpering sack of shit. Then my dad made me pay for it...but it was well worth it.
 

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zanner69 said:
“Sometimes we just screw up,” said Toronto Public School Trustee Shiela Cary-Meagher.

“I'm admitting that we all screwed up.”

perfect there is an admission by the trustee - do I smell a lawsuit against the Toronto Public School Board!!!!!
I would hope so
 

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FOOTSNIFFER said:
...and by grade 8 I eventually had had enough and after on off-colour comment one day I just whaled on this kid who was part of the 'in' crowd, and so felt it was his right to pick on me. I know people say that fighting isn't the right way to deal with a bully, but they're wrong.

I had so much pent-up rage at that point that I just kicked the living shit out of that kid derek; man, I loved the power trip I got out of looking at that whimpering sack of shit. Then my dad made me pay for it...but it was well worth it.
I couldn't agree more!
I know most say violence doesn't solve anything but there were a few cases in my childhood when I was picked on and it never stopped until I stood up for myself and pounded the crap out of someone.
For some people words work and for others... well..... they need a damn good punch in the head.
It is sad but it is true and in the case of bullying, IMO if the bully gets beat, the little bugger was asking for it all along.
 

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The only problem with fighting back is as kids get older, bullies might become gang members. Makes it a lot more dangerous to fight back against a group of bullies who might be armed.
 
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