blackout specials

dvh

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I wonder if any sp's will offer 2003 blackout specials. I think that would be great!!

It may even lure some Americans up to help our tourist industry. Also it could be a way to make up to them because after all they claim we started this whole blackout thing in the first place!!
 
Great Idea!

Well said dvh!
 
Nah... we found an even better scapegoat for the Great Blackout of 2003.

Cleveland. We tried to give it to Ontario, but ya'll wouldnt take it. :D
 
MuffinMuncher said:

Cleveland. We tried to give it to Ontario, but ya'll wouldnt take it. :D

Blaming Canada was not a smart thing to do in the first place. Since when has the US relied on another country to ensure the intergrity and uninterrupted supply of a strategic resource such as power ?
 
Hasn't the US been reliant on other countries for natural resources for awhile? Especially oil! It is a gass guzzling country that consumes resources at a huge rate.
 
Don said:
Hasn't the US been reliant on other countries for natural resources for awhile? Especially oil! It is a gass guzzling country that consumes resources at a huge rate.

The emphasis of my post is on strategic as opposed to natural resources per se . Certainly the US does have oil resources of their own as well as a strategic oil reserve - enough to tidy them over even a prolonged emergency.

Whereas, it seems to me, the power problem was a technical one [ie : intergrity of the system, a variable over which the US can exercise control ], not one of power shortage.
 
Part of the problem is that in the last 10 years, power consumption has risen 30% but generation has only risen 10%. In a lot of areas they have bypassed the safety overload protection originally built into the grid which would have stopped the domino affect much sooner.

Redundant major power lines need to be built between major power centers to allow for potential failure or even preventative maintenance from time to time.

That is going to take a huge influx of capital. As usual the consumer will get stuck with the bill when the power companies could have been doing some of this infrastructure investment a little bit at a time over many years instead of now all at once.
 
I think the best way to approach the problem is from a demand and not a supply point-of-view. Over the last 20 years, Ontario Hydro planned a massive increase in the amount of power they could generate, largely through additional nuclear stations. These stations proved to be much more expensive than anticipated, and demand grew slower than foreseen. Of course taxpayers and hydro users are now paying a debt reduction levy on hydro bills and through subsidizing the price in Ontario, now that the government has privatized much of the hydro system. Of course, the private sector does not necessarily plan for capacity over the long term, just maximizing profit over the short term.

I think the government should instead try to encourage a reduction in consumption. A carrot and stick approach could be effective and self-financing if you surcharge inefficient appliances, homes, etc. and offered rebates to consumers that lessen their usage through newer appliances or home improvements or greener generators of power such as windmill farms. This should result in a reduction in the overall power consumption levels.
 
Fred Zed said:
Blaming Canada was not a smart thing to do in the first place.

Here goes the finger pointing of US of A. Their motto is never say sorry... never! They deny everything! I know.. I have lived there for half of my lifetime!

Canada usually makes statements that makes US look bad, but Americans usually could not hear what Canadian have to say. Simply because they are not listening!

Japan for the other hand.... sorry for everything, even things that they have not done!...lol That's the Japanese way!

xoxo Kyoko

ps... i know it's not related topic but I wanted to add this comment!
 
its funny how us/canada relations reminds me of SOUTHPARK.
 
Kyo@starlight said:
Here goes the finger pointing of US of A. Their motto is never say sorry... never! They deny everything! I know.. I have lived there for half of my lifetime!

Canada usually makes statements that makes US look bad, but Americans usually could not hear what Canadian have to say. Simply because they are not listening!

Japan for the other hand.... sorry for everything, even things that they have not done!...lol That's the Japanese way!

xoxo Kyoko

ps... i know it's not related topic but I wanted to add this comment!

Yes, my dear, I quite agree. It isn't just with Canadians that some Americans do not listen to, but the rest of the world. Be thankful then, that there are still differences between these two countries.

Now back to the blackout problem- the only special worthy of a blackout aftermath is simply even better service. Lowering prices will not help but upping the ante on quality makes the most sense. After all when everyone is the dark, the only things left are our imaginations. Come to think of it, the Blackout isn't so bad, have you ever lived through the Dark Ages?
 
Kyo@starlight said:
Japan for the other hand.... sorry for everything, even things that they have not done!...lol That's the Japanese way!

Sorry this is off topic, but I didn't think the Japanese government has ever issued an apology to all the Asian countries it invaded in WWII.
 
the biggest consumer

Don said:
Hasn't the US been reliant on other countries for natural resources for awhile? Especially oil! It is a gass guzzling country that consumes resources at a huge rate.

True indeed, but let’s not forget that you get the right to do that when you have more money than anyone else... the world economy revolves around its biggest consumer.
 
Hate to go off topic, but you started this.

You are right that Japan did not do this and did not do that, including the 'Rape of Nanking' in China, during World War II.

When you re-write history, you can deny everything.


Kyo@starlight said:
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Japan for the other hand.... sorry for everything, even things that they have not done!...lol That's the Japanese way!

xoxo Kyoko

ps... i know it's not related topic but I wanted to add this comment!
 
Yes, Kyoko may need to study a little more Japanese history to understand that the Japanese government has never issued a real apology for the Rape of Nanking in China. History is full of denials and biases. If you have studied history as long as I have, you find that it has never changed in all its beauty and ugliness- it has merely re-invented itself into greater variety.

Since we are also on the topic of history, it would be interesting if anyone could really write a book about the history of prostitution in the GTA. Yes, an autobiography or personal commentary may just work- a worthy successor to "My Secret Life". Perhaps it should be called "My Secret Life with SPs- An Erotic Diary of a 21st Century Torontonian." Perhaps I can start one.... Terb does have its advantages- doesn't it? Ah, the wicked lust for life....
 
History fo SPs in GTA ?

Ask Oagre. He should have a very detaield account of this dating back to the early 80s, when he first started hobbying. I used to have a copy of it.

May be you can do a search.

PM him if you are interested. It was very informative
 
She is not gonna to learn that from the history text books published in Japan, because they completely re-wrote hisory in Japan.


Saint-Germain said:
Yes, Kyoko may need to study a little more Japanese history to understand that the Japanese government has never issued a real apology for the Rape of Nanking in China. History is full of denials and biases. ...
 
a system designed for 3.5 million---streched to 12 million==Dumm political establishment,,only interested in the 4 year stint=equals PENSIONS for life.Taking our $ in good times and demanding tax$ to fix the system====Shame,and i mean all politicos, good, bad ,stupid, and indifferent of all stripes...,



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