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djk

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Actually, they're not.

http://www.bnn.ca/News/2014/5/28/Bl...s-irrelevance-as-market-share-disappears.aspx

BlackBerry Ltd.’s (BB.TO 8.34 0.42 5.3%) share of the smartphone market is quickly vanishing.

BlackBerry’s global shipments are projected to fall almost 50 percent this year to about 9.7 million smartphones, according to a new forecast today from research firm IDC. BlackBerry’s worldwide market share will slide to about 0.8 percent in 2014 and may slip to 0.3 percent by 2018, IDC said.

“The question of whether BlackBerry can survive continues to surface,” IDC said in the statement. “And with expectations that share will fall below 1 percent in 2014, the only way the company will be viable is likely through a niche approach based on its security assets.”
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Some of us predicted this long ago....
 

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The uncertainty of BB has scared people away. Too bad, the Z30 is a top notch phone!

While BlackBerry’s smartphone dominance continues to vanish, Google Inc.’s Android operating system is expected to continue to dominate with 80.2 percent of the global market this year.

Microsoft Corp.’s Windows phones are projected to increase market share from 2014 to 2018, rising to 6.4 percent from 3.5 percent, according to IDC.
If BB's market share is virtually non-existent, Android is at 80% and Microsoft is set to rise to 6.4%, where does that leave Apple? Weren't they once at the top of market share?
 

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The uncertainty of BB has scared people away. Too bad, the Z30 is a top notch phone!



If BB's market share is virtually non-existent, Android is at 80% and Microsoft is set to rise to 6.4%, where does that leave Apple? Weren't they once at the top of market share?
That leaves apple falling every where else except from China and America, For now.
 

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The uncertainty of BB has scared people away. Too bad, the Z30 is a top notch phone!



If BB's market share is virtually non-existent, Android is at 80% and Microsoft is set to rise to 6.4%, where does that leave Apple? Weren't they once at the top of market share?
That leaves Apple with a $540B market cap, the top two selling Smart Phones And the top music and apps marketplaces... Oh yeah, they moved up 1 spot to #5 on the Fourtune 500 list.
 

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RIM is their own worst enemy. They continue to fail to bring relevant products to market on time. They're an ultra thin shell of what they once where.
 

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That leaves Apple with a $540B market cap, the top two selling Smart Phones And the top music and apps marketplaces... Oh yeah, they moved up 1 spot to #5 on the Fourtune 500 list.
Jesus, you really sound like a 10yr old who is so proud of something he doesn't really own. Do you ever read your own posts? It's really quite entertaining but sad considering your age.
 

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Jesus, you really sound like a 10yr old who is so proud of something he doesn't really own. Do you ever read your own posts? It's really quite entertaining but sad considering your age.
I answered a question, with facts, you posted yet another emotional content vacant "contribution"....
 

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That leaves Apple with a $540B market cap, the top two selling Smart Phones And the top music and apps marketplaces... Oh yeah, they moved up 1 spot to #5 on the Fourtune 500 list.
They're doomed, so doomed. When I think of a doomed company, this is exactly what I think of.
 

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That leaves Apple with a $540B market cap, the top two selling Smart Phones And the top music and apps marketplaces...
They may well have the top two selling Smartphones but obviously something is lacking in their OS considering Android dominates world market share at 81%.


Oh yeah, they moved up 1 spot to #5 on the Fourtune 500 list.
He says while typing with one hand and feverishly stroking his pee-pee with the other. lol
 

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That leaves Apple with a $540B market cap, the top two selling Smart Phones And the top music and apps marketplaces... Oh yeah, they moved up 1 spot to #5 on the Fourtune 500 list.
OTB, your religious fanaticism of the Apple brand gives you zero credibility in evaluating any new technology outside the Apple logo. It is wonderful that you parrot brochures and mimic bullshit dribble given in MAC publications to in lieu of offering any technological innovations.

If I follow your defense of Apple's lack of innovation in it's products and apply it to buying a quality suit ... forget Holt Refrew, Brooks, Harry Rosen ...... Walmart is bigger - I should get my suits there !

BTW: Latest April 14 stats since it seems to be relevant to you:


Sadly - while you are engaging religious fanaticism of the Apple brand, you have missed the absolute joy of using the latest technology. I can't see any real difference in my old iPhone and the new ones but jumping to Android was a great leap forward. How great ? Apple has just announced that widgets (a limited version) will be available 8 years after Android ! NFC, new keyboards ... even health apps introduced two years ago on Samsung !

I'm glad Apple is buying other companies ideas and product - finally you will get to experience why technology buffs left Apple iPhone so long ago !
 

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If Google could trade places with Apple, or if Samsung could trade places with apple, both would do it in a heartbeat. Apple makes alot more money, they produce alot less product and there is alot less work involved. Only Samsung and Google are the ones making consistent coin off android, everyone else is either barely treading water or is drowning in debt. Market share is meaningful, but profitability is more meaningful. Android's market share is so great they certainly it can keep pace with iOS, iOS is so profitable that certainly it can keep pace with Android.

For the record, I have always had android phones because they offer the best bang for buck. I do have an ipod 4th gen, but I never use it, I only have it to test out if the webpages I make are properly rendered on iOS. Apple's philosophy of locking everything down and extracting maximum profit from it's customer base is counter to my sensibilities, however I do see appreciate the foresight and executing of Apple. It is akin to have respect for a deadly adversary.
 

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The same mentality of chasing market share is what did RIM in. RIM had something that everyone would kill for; a subscription service in the business space. RIM killed the goose that laid the golden eggs by trying too hard to get into the consumer space, which is no where as profitable as the business space. Failure after failure in the consumer space, eroded customer confidence in the business space. RIM's brand name is garbage now, even RIM confirmed this by changing it's name to BlackBerry.

Every subscription paying customer in the Business space has got be be worth atleast 10 customers in the consumer space, it is about profitability not market share.
 

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They do pretty well in the Apps Marketplace....

Google Play: $530 million, up 166%, market share = 38%
iOS App Store: $870 million, up 53%, market share = 62%

Doing OK in music:
On October 10, 2012, the iTunes Store was reported to have a 64% share of the online music market, and a 29% share of all music sales worldwide

Blackberry is toast, only the truly vision impaired didn't see it coming.
 

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15% of the hardware market share taking in 62% of the app revenue, that is a victory for apple. Apple probably nets 10x from each iOS customer than google+handset maker make off an android customer. Less work, more money, that is the American dream.
 

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15% of the hardware market share taking in 62% of the app revenue, that is a victory for apple. Apple probably nets 10x from each iOS customer than google+handset maker make off an android customer. Less work, more money, that is the American dream.
If your objective is to make money - which is why I think these companies are in business. Also says something about the user profile I'd guess.

Samsung also has a very good strategy, it's based on volume.

BMW vs Kia

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Samsung is forced to play the volume game, if there was a choice, anyone with a brain would chose to sell less physical goods but to earn more profit off each sale. I believe Samsung has their own music service to try to become more like Apple, last time I heard it is going to get shutdown. When you play the volume game you compete with $50 android phones from china that are also trying to earn coin based primarily on volume.
 

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If I follow your defense of Apple's lack of innovation in it's products and apply it to buying a quality suit ... forget Holt Refrew, Brooks, Harry Rosen ...... Walmart is bigger - I should get my suits there !
Yes, you should buy your suits at Walmart! They're exactly the same at Walmart as they are at Harry Rosen! Only Harry's sheep would fall for their BS marketing and over pay for those suites. Those silly rubes, just getting shafted because they're blinded by all the flashy advertising paid by their big ad budget. Speaking of Brooks Brothers, their founder died many years ago and they've doomed ever since, nothing new or innovation coming from them for a very long time. Get a clue.
 

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Samsung is forced to play the volume game, if there was a choice, anyone with a brain would chose to sell less physical goods but to earn more profit off each sale. I believe Samsung has their own music service to try to become more like Apple, last time I heard it is going to get shutdown. When you play the volume game you compete with $50 android phones from china that are also trying to earn coin based primarily on volume.
Yes, Apple has started at the top of the market and is working down, Samsung started at the other end and is working up. They are both making money - as you noted, the only two companies in the smartphone market that are.

The mismatch between HW volume (where Samsung is clearly winning) and ecosystem volume (where Apple is clearly winning) I think can partly be explained by different demographics and fragmentation of the Android installed base:

 
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