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Bell customer data base hacked - Lots of new scams!

mandrill

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It seems the Bell / Virgin customer data base has been hacked and a new wave of phone scams is occurring.

Scammers phone up a Bell customer and claim to be phone salesmen for Bell. They give fake Bell ID's. And initially they seem legit because they know all about the customer and the products the customer has purchased from Bell. They don't ask for banking or credit card information. They offer a "30% discount on all products for your customer loyalty".

So far so good, right?....... So here's where the sketchy begins. To "authorize the 30% discount" they get Bell to text your cell # with a code and they prompt you to repeat to them the code. Weird, huh?

The code is not an authorization code for a 30% discount however. (Although you will get a fake email from the scammers telling you that you have the 30% discount that appears to be a Bell email).

The code authorizes the purchase of a top of the line super-expensive phone. (Because the scammers are in the process of ordering it for themselves on your account). In my client's case, things got weird because he was looking at his email inbox during the call and Bell informed him that he had just bought a $2k android phone on his mobile account and his rates were going to double each month to pay for the phone.

My client confronted the scammers and was told "Relax. It's just an error on our corporate side."

Then my client got another (genuine) email from Bell telling him that his online customer profile was now disabled and he would only be getting snail mail bills and no longer receive e-bills. (This is the second stage of the scam which allows the scammers to conceal that the phone order is still in place and then to change their billing - and delivery address - to their own location without you knowing what is going on.)

That prompted my client to tell the scammers to go suck a donkey and he called the Bell fraud centre and got his access to his online profile reinstated and the android phone purchase cancelled.

What made the call initially not suspicious was the fact that the scammers knew who he was and all about what accounts and services he had with Bell. Clearly there has been a leak or a hack and your info is out there and in the wrong hands.

Bell told him that NO LEGIT BELL CUSTOMER REPS ARE MAKING CALLS OFFERING DISCOUNTS. THESE CALLS ARE ALL SCAMS.

This scam is likely to persist for the next while. None of these calls are legit and all should be terminated right away.
 
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What is the Bell phone number to call? as the client did.
 

mandrill

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What is the Bell phone number to call? as the client did.
1-800-509-9904.

That's the direct, emergency fraud line. They pick up right away and talk to you.

The general Bell / Virgin phone lines are the usual "Leave a message and we'll call you back in an hour's time" horseshit nonsense!
 

james t kirk

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Mandrill, i have had 2 calls very much fitting the scam you described, almost.

I was driving home and got a call on my mobile phone claiming to be Bell and that they were going to offer me 30 percent off of my Bell Services. I was instantly skeptical, but they did know I was a Bell Customer and my mobile number, etc. So I heard the guy out and he wanted to know my email address in order to send me some information about the promotion. Instantly I was certain it was a scam. First off, he had an Indian accent and yeah, I'm sure Bell has lots of Indians who legitimately work for them. But every scammer who has ever called me for one reason or another was always Indian. So strike 1.

Next, he wanted to know my email address. So I said to him, "you're Bell, you should know my Bell email address." Karan hemmed and hawed why they don't have my email address, so I gave him a 25 year old Hotmail address. Well he didn't like that. So he says "tell you what, give me your home mailing address and we will send you the info that way." Again I say to him, "you're Bell, you know my mailing address." This goes back and forth, till finally I say to him, "give me your phone number and I will call you."

Finally, click.

I didn't get the impression that he knew all my details, but he definitely knew some.

Bottom line, never trust anyone calling you from anywhere - bank, BELL, Insurance, the CRA, Amazon, Visa, whatever.
 
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gamslk

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Thanks for your post. I know Rogers customers had a scam about getting the wrong phone for a winback deal, and this sounds like a variation of the same scam.
 
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But every scammer who has ever called me for one reason or another was always Indian. So strike 1.
I you get a call from one of the East Indians who claims to be calling from either Bell or Rogers, offering a 'special promotion, 30% off', then says 'you're currently a customer of [the other one], is that correct?' - Those guys are just phishing for the name of your ISP.

With scam calls from the subcontinent, you can always hear other people speaking in the background.
 

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Mandrill, i have had 2 calls very much fitting the scam you described, almost.

I was driving home and got a call on my mobile phone claiming to be Bell and that they were going to offer me 30 percent off of my Bell Services. I was instantly skeptical, but they did know I was a Bell Customer and my mobile number, etc. So I heard the guy out and he wanted to know my email address in order to send me some information about the promotion. Instantly I was certain it was a scam. First off, he had an Indian accent and yeah, I'm sure Bell has lots of Indians who legitimately work for them. But every scammer who has ever called me for one reason or another was always Indian. So strike 1.

Next, he wanted to know my email address. So I said to him, "you're Bell, you should know my Bell email address." Karan hemmed and hawed why they don't have my email address, so I gave him a 25 year old Hotmail address. Well he didn't like that. So he says "tell you what, give me your home mailing address and we will send you the info that way." Again I say to him, "you're Bell, you know my mailing address." This goes back and forth, till finally I say to him, "give me your phone number and I will call you."

Finally, click.

I didn't get the impression that he knew all my details, but he definitely knew some.

Bottom line, never trust anyone calling you from anywhere - bank, BELL, Insurance, the CRA, Amazon, Visa, whatever.
I probably had a similar guy he was Indian but spoke English well with a minimal accent. I asked him why he was asking for all this information that they should have on file. Even tried to convince me he was from Bell by sending me an email which looked official enough. Until I looked up the address it came from, no such email address as bell.support@bell.ca. He eventually got frustrated and hung up on me. These scammers are getting better you need to be so careful when giving out information.
 
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Adam_hadam

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Again, in an Indian accent. "Hello, this is Paul calling from Bell."
"How's the weather in Mumbai?" click
OR
"Who is the CEO of BCE?" click
 
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