Bell and Rogers

[I'm Me]

Well what's that got to do with the price of tea in China? Are you saying sex workers aren't intelligent? Or are you saying their clients aren't intelligent? Or are you saying when you have sex you don't think straight i's all good in the da hood.

1- Nothing
2-No
3-No
4-No

 

[Jenesis]

I'm with comwave for 50gig for 40$ a month home internet and koodo for around 75$ per month for 9 gig cell. Is that normal?

I’m unlimited, gig speed, for $100 and $85 for phone with 30gigs. I need high speed and lots of data for business.

 

[james t kirk]

Bell & Rogers get your money in so many ways; you probably don't even realize you are giving it to them. Their Media divisions are basically everywhere.

680 News = Rogers
CityTV = Rogers
Omni = Rogers
Sportsnet = Rogers
TSN = Bell
CP24 = Bell
CTV = Bell
BNN = Bell
Crave = Bell

Blue Jays = Rogers
Raptors/Leafs/Argos/Toronto FC = MLSE

The majority shareholders of MLSE include Rogers and BCE at 37.5% for each.

I didn't even include the radio stations in that.

They own the sports teams; they own the media properties; and they own the distribution as well.

So, yes, the pricks will get your $$$.

City TV is a casualty ever since they were sold to Rogers.

They used to have a LOT of very cool programming. A lot of Toronto centric shows that really set that channel apart. Everything from City Pulse News to Speakers Corners, to Fashion TV, to the New Music. Even Much Music (are they still even in business?)

All gone, never to return. Instead we have the virtually UNWATCHABLE pap from south of the border. All (so called) reality TV all the time.

It's fucking terrible what they did to CITY TV.

I can't remember the last time I watched network television other than the news on CBC or CTV and frankly the CBC is getting harder and harder to take

 

[Darts]

I'm definitely not an expert in this ares but some/much/most/almost all of Bell's charges/fees are subject to regulatory approval.

Bell Canada tariffs | BCE

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www.bce.ca

Speaker's Corner: Met a guy once who used to download the stuff from Speaker's Corner. He said a lot of the stuff couldn't be shown on TV because they were obscene.

 

[ptp]

City TV is a casualty ever since they were sold to Rogers.

They used to have a LOT of very cool programming. A lot of Toronto centric shows that really set that channel apart. Everything from City Pulse News to Speakers Corners, to Fashion TV, to the New Music. Even Much Music (are they still even in business?)

All gone, never to return. Instead we have the virtually UNWATCHABLE pap from south of the border. All (so called) reality TV all the time.

It's fucking terrible what they did to CITY TV.

I can't remember the last time I watched network television other than the news on CBC or CTV and frankly the CBC is getting harder and harder to take

When city used to play xrated movies on the weekend and i don't think Ed the Sock would fly these days

 

[K Douglas]

One of the great mysteries of peoplekind is why do Canadians hate their own Canadian companies so much? Nortel and RIM went tits up. Bombardier is pretty much in the ICU. We can't even manufacture our own PPE and vaccine. Yes, and our oil industry is tanking while Quebec is buying oil from the Saudis because they don't want pipelines.

Think about this for a moment. That idiot Harper wanted 4 telecom companies so he offered spectrum only to foreign companies. Meanwhile France with twice the population and a much smaller landmass has 2 or maybe 3 telecom companies.

Nortel and RIM didn't go tits up because Canadians hated them. Bombardier has been bailed out by taxpayers several times and continue to repeat the same mistakes. We have a right to be pissed at them. What is wrong with wanting more competition - Harper was right to desire that. And France has 4 main telecom companies.

I think Bell offers a very good product. But their customer service is dogshit and they lack integrity in way they operate.

 

[Darts]

And France has 4 main telecom companies.

Yes, I just looked it up but I think during Harper's time it was two or three. The biggest by far was France Telecom (now Orange).

Orange S.A. is majority owned by the state and is a huge international corporation with over 265mm customers. (Bell and Rogers are midgets in comparison. Are we allow to say "midget"? Never know nowadays.) I wouldn't be surprised if Orange is larger than the other 3 combined.

"Orange S.A. (French pronunciation: [ɔʁɑ̃ʒ ɛs‿a]), formerly France Télécom S.A. stylized as: france telecom , is a French multinational telecommunications corporation. It has 266 million customers worldwide and employs 89,000 people in France, and 59,000 elsewhere.[3] It is the tenth largest mobile network operator in the world and the fourth largest in Europe after Vodafone, Telefónica and VEON. In 2015, the group had revenue of €40 billion.[4] The company's head office is located in the 15th arrondissement of Paris. The current CEO is Stéphane Richard. The company is a component of the Euro Stoxx 50 stock"

 

[Darts]

I'm probably not the only one who thinks it is so sad that Nortel died and Bombardier, Blackberry and oil&gas companies are in the ICU. There was a time when Canadian companies used to manufacture cellphones, telecommunications equipment, airplanes, ships, buses, railway cars, pharmaceuticals, etc.

We still manufacture cars, much of which are government subsidized, for foreign owned companies.

 

[benstt]

Someone I know told me about a situation in the 80's. Bell laid off people and call them back to invest their severance pay in Dominion Life insurance. Dominion Life went bankrupt 9 months later. Then they had to sue Bell to get their money back, reason they sue is because Bell knew DLI was going bankrupt.

You sure about Dominion Life? I thought they were owned by Lincoln National from the 1950's then sold to Manulife in the 80's.

 

[fall]

I'm probably not the only one who thinks it is so sad that Nortel died and Bombardier, Blackberry and oil&gas companies are in the ICU. There was a time when Canadian companies used to manufacture cellphones, telecommunications equipment, airplanes, ships, buses, railway cars, pharmaceuticals, etc.

We still manufacture cars, much of which are government subsidized, for foreign owned companies.

We have strong union laws and high minimum wage. We cannot compete with U.S. or mexico when it comes to manual labour jobs.

 

[Darts]

We have strong union laws and high minimum wage.

Those are the main reasons why we are non-competitive.

 

[xix]

You sure about Dominion Life? I thought they were owned by Lincoln National from the 1950's then sold to Manulife in the 80's.

It was Confederation Life. They were forced into liquidation in 1994. So no they are no longer around. I had to verify this.

 

[ptp]

It was Confederation Life. They were forced into liquidation in 1994. So no they are no longer around. I had to verify this.

And Rogers got a smoking deal on their buildings .

 

[dickydoem]

Bell & Rogers get your money in so many ways; you probably don't even realize you are giving it to them. Their Media divisions are basically everywhere.

680 News = Rogers
CityTV = Rogers
Omni = Rogers
Sportsnet = Rogers
TSN = Bell
CP24 = Bell
CTV = Bell
BNN = Bell
Crave = Bell

Blue Jays = Rogers
Raptors/Leafs/Argos/Toronto FC = MLSE

The majority shareholders of MLSE include Rogers and BCE at 37.5% for each.

I didn't even include the radio stations in that.

They own the sports teams; they own the media properties; and they own the distribution as well.

So, yes, the pricks will get your $$$.

Bell Media just got rid of 240 people a couple of weeks ago some from News/Talk1010 (CFRB) including Jim Richards, Barb DiGiulio, Ted Woloshyn, Dave McKee and most of the news staff.

 

[basketcase]

For any downtown condo people (or those with a business), I'd recommend looking in to Beanfield.

1 gig unlimited $50, TV from $20/month
(price hasn't increased in forever)

Downside(?) is they have their own fibreoptic network so it takes more coordination through the building than just a phone call and a technician showing up with a box.



Of course that doesn't change that Bell and Rogers are massive corporations willing to take advantage of any opportunity to profit. If CERB is considered income for tax purposes, why can't they do the same to corporations?