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mandrill

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Looked like a few hundred from those shots.

Doesn't matter much anyway. Let me explain.

The population of Amsterdam is 2.4 million. Assume that 1% of the population are anti vaxx. That produces an anti vaxx population of 24,000. Say half of those - 10,000 - went and paraded around like assholes and fought with the cops. It's still a microscopic minority.

And there were sure as hell NOT 10,000 in those videos.

So you're still in a situation where 90%+ support the government and a few % are assholes. That's the equivalent % of vaxx-refusers in the police or army. 1 to 2% refuse the shot. 98-99% agree to take them and support the government.

So when Oracle rants about the "people taking to the streets and fighting for free-dumb", the "People" that he's cheering on are far less than 1% of the population.

There are anti vaxx assholes everywhere. There was an anti vaxx asshole parade along Bathurst St back in the fall that tied up traffic for 20 minutes - probably a few thousand people. But the GTA has a population of 7,000,000 and over 80% are vaxxed. In any democracy, 80% is a fucking CRUSHING super majority. In a democracy, 1% of the population does not get to over-rule the other 99% by parading around, occupying the city centre and beating cops. That's not democracy, that's a violent Karen-ocracy where the whiny, nasty and entitled attempt to impose their wills on the vast majority of citizens who are peaceful, responsible and sensible.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Looked like a few hundred from those shots.

Doesn't matter much anyway. Let me explain.

The population of Amsterdam is 2.4 million. Assume that 1% of the population are anti vaxx. That produces an anti vaxx population of 24,000. Say half of those - 10,000 - went and paraded around like assholes and fought with the cops. It's still a microscopic minority.

And there were sure as hell NOT 10,000 in those videos.

So you're still in a situation where 90%+ support the government and a few % are assholes. That's the equivalent % of vaxx-refusers in the police or army. 1 to 2% refuse the shot. 98-99% agree to take them and support the government.

So when Oracle rants about the "people taking to the streets and fighting for free-dumb", the "People" that he's cheering on are far less than 1% of the population.

There are anti vaxx assholes everywhere. There was an anti vaxx asshole parade along Bathurst St back in the fall that tied up traffic for 20 minutes - probably a few thousand people. But the GTA has a population of 7,000,000 and over 80% are vaxxed. In any democracy, 80% is a fucking CRUSHING super majority. In a democracy, 1% of the population does not get to over-rule the other 99% by parading around, occupying the city centre and beating cops. That's not democracy, that's a violent Karen-ocracy where the whiny, nasty and entitled attempt to impose their wills on the vast majority of citizens who are peaceful, responsible and sensible
Nice rant, but the demonstration was more anti-lockdown than anti-vaxx.

Last I read is about the half the country is against new lockdowns. I still have a lot of family over there, and everybody I talk to is sick of it now
 
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mandrill

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Nice rant, but the demonstration was more anti-lockdown than anti-vaxx.

Last I read is about the half the country is against new lockdowns. I still have a lot of family over there, and everybody I talk to is sick of it now
Sick of it they might be. And many might question whether it's necessary re the Omicron variant.

But those people are still supportive of the government. The folks that went to that protest are perennial malcontents. Those are the nice folks with the neo nazi flags fighting with the cops. The ordinary, long-suffering citizen isn't one of those dicks.
 

mandrill

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Nice rant, but the demonstration was more anti-lockdown than anti-vaxx.
Last I read is about the half the country is against new lockdowns. I still have a lot of family over there, and everybody I talk to is sick of it now

The same thugs also fought with the cops and injured many back in September, well before the Omicron variant and the new lockdowns. That was to protest vaxx passports. Apparently vaxx passports are "tyranny". They did the same thing a year ago in January 2021.


It was one of the worst outbreaks of violence in the Netherlands since coronavirus measures were first imposed last year. In January, rioters also attacked police and set fires on the streets of Rotterdam after a curfew came into force.


Justice Minister Ferd Grapperhaus condemned the events.


“The riots and extreme violence against police officers, riot police and firefighters last night in Rotterdam are disgusting to see,” he said in a statement.


“Protesting is a great right in our society, but what we saw last night is simply criminal behaviour. It has nothing to do with demonstrating,” he added.



There were also violent riots in Rotterdam in November. Violent riots - probably organized by far right groups - appear to be a regular occurrence in the Netherlands.

 

Phil C. McNasty

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Sick of it they might be. And many might question whether it's necessary re the Omicron variant.

But those people are still supportive of the government. The folks that went to that protest are perennial malcontents. Those are the nice folks with the neo nazi flags fighting with the cops. The ordinary, long-suffering citizen isn't one of those dicks
You dont know that for sure. Some people just cant be bothered to go out and protest.

You are against police brutality and you support BLM, but did you go out and protest yourself last summer??
 

Phil C. McNasty

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There were also violent riots in Rotterdam in November. Violent riots - probably organized by far right groups - appear to be a regular occurrence in the Netherlands.

There you go with your anti right-wing bias again. Do Lefties never protest or burn buildings to the ground??
 

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Sick of it they might be. And many might question whether it's necessary re the Omicron variant.

But those people are still supportive of the government. The folks that went to that protest are perennial malcontents. Those are the nice folks with the neo nazi flags fighting with the cops. The ordinary, long-suffering citizen isn't one of those dicks.
Where did you see neo nazi flags?? If you got video or pics, please post them
 

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They try to limit fireworks to shopping areas.
Fireworks too close to residential areas upsets housepets too much
So it is supposed to be a mass movement that respectfully tries to not upset housepets, but ignores the risk of injury from fireworks needing to use up valuable hospital resources.

Sure.....
 

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So it is supposed to be a mass movement that respectfully tries to not upset housepets, but ignores the risk of injury from fireworks needing to use up valuable hospital resources.

Sure.....
Lighting fireworks is safe so long as you're careful
 
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