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Atheists more generous than religious when helping others

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Atheists may not believe in God, but they may be better at loving thy neighbor than churchgoing folk.

A new study by the University of California, Berkeley, suggests athiests and agnostics are more willing to help other people than those who identify themselves as religious.

The reason for this difference, the study found, is because atheists are driven by emotions, such as compassion, as opposed to religious people, who may be more influenced by “doctrine, a communal identity, or reputational concerns.”

“This research suggests that although less religious people tend to be less trusted in the U.S., when feeling compassionate, they may actually be more inclined to help their fellow citizens than more religious people,” study co-author and social psychologist Robb Willer said in a statement.

As part of the study, featured in the July issue of the Social Psychological and Personality Science journal, researchers examined three experiments tying generosity with compassionate behavior.

That included analyzing data from a 2004 national survey of more than 1,300 Americans. That report found that those who were less religious were motivated more to help others, such as giving food or money to the homeless.

The Berkeley study’s lead author, Laura Saslow, said she was inspired to look into how generous people can be based on religion after hearing how a nonreligious friend wanted to donate to earthquake relief in Haiti, where a woman was being pulled from the rubble.

“I was interested to find that this experience — an atheist being strongly influenced by his emotions to show generosity to strangers — was replicated in three large, systematic studies,” Saslow said in a statement.

The Rev. Chloe Breyer, executive director of the Interfaith Center of New York, said the results are surprising and that while people may not always help others spontaneously, there are plenty of faithful who choose to be generous through tithing or social justice work.

“Can how they respond to a tragic situation they encounter on the street or see on TV be the only direct measure?” she asked, adding that “to make a generalization of that nature about the religious seems somewhat extraordinary.”

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...helping-study-article-1.1072386#ixzz1uBi31XpK
 

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Not true. They dont compare to organizations such as salvation army.
Yeah and the Salvation Army gets plenty of its donations from non-religious types (like me). Do you have data to back up your "not true" or is this just something you know for a fact?
 

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Religious people typically tithe to their church, so they then feel that they have made their contribution. Those tithe dollars go to pay salaries, building expenses and missions (with the exception of the above mentioned Salvation Army and some liberal churches). I know. That is how i lived for 15 years.

The kid's t-shirt that read "Life without Jesus is wasted" is a lie. The opposite is true. I wasted time and money on an imaginary friend, when I could have been helping real people.
 

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Both CM and the NY Daily news have used misleading headlines if they actually read the study and findings.

Here is some more data:

http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2012/04/30/religionandgenerosity/

What the study says is that non-religious people tend to give for different reasons that religious people. Wow, I wonder how much we paid to find that out:


“Overall, we find that for less religious people, the strength of their emotional connection to another person is critical to whether they will help that person or not,” said UC Berkeley social psychologist Robb Willer, a co-author of the study. “The more religious, on the other hand, may ground their generosity less in emotion, and more in other factors such as doctrine, a communal identity, or reputational concerns.”
In fact no where in the study did it say that atheists or agnostics were more generous than the religious in their giving. That is just a lie CM decided to make up. Another big surprise.

There is a suggestion that less religious people may be less rational in their giving, but that is kind of peripheral to the work being done. Personally I think that giving money to an organization that helps the homeless is a more effective use of money that just handing money to a homeless guy.

When it comes to actual giving, every study I have read has shown that religious people are more likely to a) give to charity and b) volunteer for community work. Feel free to do some research to see if I am right. IIRC the numbers stand up even when normed for ideas like giving opportunities. Even purely secular charities are more likely to get donations from the religious than the non-religious.

This looks like some typically poor science reporting followed by some CM lying.
 

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Both CM and the NY Daily news have used misleading headlines if they actually read the study and findings.

Here is some more data:

http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2012/04/30/religionandgenerosity/

What the study says is that non-religious people tend to give for different reasons that religious people. Wow, I wonder how much we paid to find that out:




In fact no where in the study did it say that atheists or agnostics were more generous than the religious in their giving. That is just a lie CM decided to make up. Another big surprise.

There is a suggestion that less religious people may be less rational in their giving, but that is kind of peripheral to the work being done. Personally I think that giving money to an organization that helps the homeless is a more effective use of money that just handing money to a homeless guy.

When it comes to actual giving, every study I have read has shown that religious people are more likely to a) give to charity and b) volunteer for community work. Feel free to do some research to see if I am right. IIRC the numbers stand up even when normed for ideas like giving opportunities. Even purely secular charities are more likely to get donations from the religious than the non-religious.

This looks like some typically poor science reporting followed by some CM lying.
There's my boy - Go get 'em RLD!!!!!
 

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Both CM and the NY Daily news have used misleading headlines if they actually read the study and findings.

Here is some more data:

http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2012/04/30/religionandgenerosity/

What the study says is that non-religious people tend to give for different reasons that religious people. Wow, I wonder how much we paid to find that out:




In fact no where in the study did it say that atheists or agnostics were more generous than the religious in their giving. That is just a lie CM decided to make up. Another big surprise.

There is a suggestion that less religious people may be less rational in their giving, but that is kind of peripheral to the work being done. Personally I think that giving money to an organization that helps the homeless is a more effective use of money that just handing money to a homeless guy.

When it comes to actual giving, every study I have read has shown that religious people are more likely to a) give to charity and b) volunteer for community work. Feel free to do some research to see if I am right. IIRC the numbers stand up even when normed for ideas like giving opportunities. Even purely secular charities are more likely to get donations from the religious than the non-religious.

This looks like some typically poor science reporting followed by some CM lying.

the religious mainly give to churches and religious organizations that is used to claim that the religious give more
 

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the religious mainly give to churches and religious organizations that is used to claim that the religious give more
For someone who doesn't go to church you sure have inside information of how they operate. It's been shown before in you classic thread that the RC Church puts more than 80% of it's money to the various charities it supports and operates around the world, making itself the biggest single contributor to charitable work. if you don't believe this contact their auditors Arthur Anderson, or what ever their name is now, Accenture.
 

rld

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the religious mainly give to churches and religious organizations that is used to claim that the religious give more
Which makes the secular look really bad, considering that the religious give more to purely secular charities than the secular do. Ouch.

And none of that changes the fact that you lied again on such an issue.

Is lying part of secularism or just your MO CM?
 
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