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Are you over, under or at the maximum recommended drinks per week

Are you over, under or at the maximum number of recommended drinks per week

  • I drink more than 3 drinks a day for a total of 15 (women 2 per day max 10 per week)

    Votes: 3 9.1%
  • I drink approximately the recommended totals

    Votes: 7 21.2%
  • I drink below the recommended total

    Votes: 23 69.7%

  • Total voters
    33

havingfun

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http://www.thestar.com/atkinsonseri...rst-low-risk-alcohol-drinking-guidelines?bn=1


It’s unanimous: Canada’s first national low-risk alcohol drinking guidelines have been given the green light by Health Canada, as well as all provincial and territorial ministers at a meeting in Halifax. “Alcohol is a health hazard,” says Deb Matthews, Ontario minister of health and long-term care. “It’s really important that we now have national guidelines.”

More than two years in the shaping, the guidelines — approved on Friday — had already received the blessing of the Canadian Public Health Association, the Canadian Medical Association, the liquor industry and more.

According to the new guidelines, women should consume no more than two drinks most days, up to 10 a week, and men should consume no more than three drinks most days, up to 15 a week.

All should plan for non-drinking days, ensuring that they aren’t developing a habit.

Beyond the weekly limits, the guidelines also make reference to special occasion drinking: “Reduce your risk of injury by drinking no more than three drinks (for women) or four drinks (for men) on any single occasion.”

“That we have all agreed on what the guidelines should look like — government, the alcohol industry and public health — is unique to Canada,” says Michel Perron, CEO of the Canadian Centre on Substance Abuse (CCSA), which oversaw the shaping of the guidelines. “You will not find another country that has this level of congruence.”

The guidelines are long overdue. Like most G8 countries, Canada has witnessed an uptick in risky drinking. Canadians consume 8.2 litres of pure alcohol on an annual basis — more than 50 per cent above the world average. “It’s not that we drink,” says Rob Strang, chief medical officer of Nova Scotia, “but how we drink.”

And how we drink causes a lot of alcohol-related harm. “If a country has a $14-billion a year problem,” says Perron, “and much of it stems from the use of a legal product, the first step is to explain how the product can be used, and how to decrease that avoidable cost. Much of that cost is preventable.”

What is significant about the guidelines is that they were the first priority of the National Alcohol Strategy. This is an intelligent and comprehensive blueprint shaped in 2007 by an expert working group convened by the CCSA, Health Canada and what was then known as the Alberta Alcohol and Drug Abuse Commission.

This group, together with representatives from public health agencies, alcohol manufacturers, treatment agencies and alcohol control boards, produced “Reducing Alcohol-Related Harm in Canada: Towards a Culture of Moderation.” This was a milestone effort, presenting 41 recommendations.

These new guidelines won’t change the drinking culture overnight, but they will establish an important benchmark for Canadians. “Up until now, the fun factor has been different, depending on which province you lived in,” says Perron, referring to the fact that Canada has had four different sets of guidelines.

What is most remarkable is that the guidelines have industry’s approval. At several junctures, it looked like industry might walk from the table. “It nearly went off the rails many times,” says one insider. They stayed.

“They certainly don’t want to be caught out like the tobacco people were,” says Peter Butt, who chaired the expert review committee.

Clinically, these guidelines are important for the medical community, key to screening and brief intervention — a tool known to be effective for helping problem drinkers.

The next step? Broad circulation and promotion of the new guidelines.

Ideally, the liquor monopolies will play a major role. “One of the advantages we have in Canada is the monopolies,” says Perron. “Social responsibility is the primary justification through which the LCBO can maintain their monopolistic advantage. And social responsibility is not something you do — it’s how you do things.”

After that: standard drink labelling on all alcoholic beverages, articulating how many standard drinks are in each container. “Without them, it’s like having a 100-kilometre speed limit and no speedometer on your car,” says Perron. “How do you gauge consumption if you don’t know how much you are drinking.”

Strang agrees: “Industry loves to say they’re all about responsible drinking, but how does their marketing and labelling portray responsibility?”

This could be a sticky point with the alcohol industry. Says Andrew Murie, CEO of MADD Canada: “I am not sure that the beverage industry is going to come singing ‘Kumbaya’ on this one. But like tobacco, it’s a product where you need to warn the public.”

These guidelines represent a healthy limit. But drinking to optimize health? That’s another matter. “One drink a day—and that’s a fairly unusual consumption pattern,” says Tim Stockwell, executive director of the Centre for Addictions Research of B.C. Still, he points out, a daily drink is where “the risk of cancer starts.”

If Stockwell had his way, Canada would move to warning labels: “If you can do this for tanning salons, why not alcohol? What other product do we protect when there is scientific evidence that use causes cancer? In this country, billions of dollars are made by governments on alcohol, and it causes the deaths of 10,000 or more each year. Consumers have a right to know. Of course, the alcohol producers might have trouble with this.”
 

simon482

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i have recently tried to curb my drinking. not sure if it's for good or just to get my tolerance down so i can get drunk for under 50$ again. bar tabs were running me 300$, case of beer at home was the only option if i wanted to get tuned up.
 

havingfun

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Are you worried and just want to find out where you stand?

To answer your question, no.
I was curious and thought others might be. My personal situation, I drink 3 to 6 drinks per week, it varies within that. I have been at that level for about 10 years. In the past I drank even less and then there were years that I drink more, even more than the guidelines but not much more. With my personality, I could see myself dedicating my life to wine, women and song. It's a life style that I enjoy and have experienced in the past. But I will not return to it (only in moderation) because the end result is not where I want to arrive in any hurry.
 

blackrock13

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I was curious and thought others might be. My personal situation, I drink 3 to 6 drinks per week, it varies within that. I have been at that level for about 10 years. In the past I drank even less and then there were years that I drink more, even more than the guidelines but not much more. With my personality, I could see myself dedicating my life to wine, women and song. It's a life style that I enjoy and have experienced in the past. But I will not return to it (only in moderation) because the end result is not where I want to arrive in any hurry.
Sounds and looks like you have little to worry about.
 

Blue-Spheroid

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I'm way below the guideline numbers. Most days I don't drink at all. Maybe once or twice a month I'll have one (two at the most). However, three or four times a year I like to go out with a certain group of friends and drink seriously; on these occasions, I significantly exceed the four drink limit for special occasions.
 

blackrock13

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I'm way below the guideline numbers. Most days I don't drink at all. Maybe once or twice a month I'll have one (two at the most). However, three or four times a year I like to go out with a certain group of friends and drink seriously; on these occasions, I significantly exceed the four drink limit for special occasions.
Yup, in the early days it was dances stags, birthdays, St Patrick's Day and weddings. Now it's wakes, divorce celebrations, St Patrick's Day and each one of Blackbeards birthdays.
 

Ceiling Cat

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Way under. The last drink I had was 5 or 6 months ago.
 

havingfun

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Sounds and looks like you have little to worry about.
I don't think so. 30+ years ago I smoked a pack a day and then stopped. I won't be going back. 10 years ago I was drinking and whoring to excess and then I stopped. It wasn't sustainable health-wise. I won't be going back. I have no regrets and some fond memories
 

fuji

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I don't drink often, but when I do, I drink way more than that. I might not drink at all for a couple of weeks, then one night I'll have seven or eight pints.
 

fuji

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There have been some pretty wild nights where I must have had >20 drinks. When I was in university I did that a lot. Now that kind of night is maybe once every few years, if that.

Actually what limits me more than anything else is the guys that I drink with all have kids and want to be home by 11pm lol--but I don't really want to go back to drinking the way I was when I was in my 20's, not unless I can be in my 20's again.
 

TeasePlease

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It depends when you ask. In the summer, or the holiday season (starting tmrw), i'll easily down 20+ drinks a week, but that might be 10 in a day on my deck. Normally, i might do 3 or 4 as part of entertaining clients. I figure it all averages out.
 
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