The last time I saw SPs on a regular basis was around 8 or so years ago (with a different handle), and was a little frustrated that finding PSE services was not so easy (not too hard either, but not too easy). Now I find that almost every ad I check (on reputable agencies) are offering CIM, CIMSW, COF, Greek, etc... (though many are ymmv). I assume the PSE back in the 90's or 80's was even more rare than 10 years ago. So what's been happening? Are agencies telling the SPs to start giving PSE because they recognize that us horny guys will respond more than to the girls who don't offer PSE? Is internet porn making PSE a more mundane thing now and as a result SPs are now more open to it. Please discuss, because I'm curious about all this. And yes, I'm a PSE addict.
Are PSE services on the rise?
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I have found that what they advertise is not always delivered. Some say rimming, DFK, CIMSW, but then there is the disclaimer: YMMV. It's kind of like B&S in a way. So, no, they are not getting more liberal, just more deceptive so they can attract more customers.
Oh, good point there. Because so far I've only seen one SP this year as I try to get back on track, and I got exactly the BBBJCIM as advertised, so I assume such promises are mostly fulfilled with other ads too. I didn't really think that it might be a new form of B&S as agencies recognize that PSE is in high demand. Can others vouch for this?
Hey, nice to know that you are not falling for the B&S, rgkv. Any PSE going on from the masseuses?
But wait. If agencies are using PSE B&S tactics to keep up with the competition, don't they also damage their own reputation when their clients realize that they are putting up too much B&S?
One of the BIG reasons I stay with Indies. Nothing beats corresponding directly with a reputable Independent provider. No misunderstanding what-so-ever.
How can you be a PSE addict if you haven't seen escorts on a regular basis in 8 years?
PSE from girlfriends. But PSE from SPs saves a lot more money (and time).How can you be a PSE addict if you haven't seen escorts on a regular basis in 8 years?
Okay, that makes more sense.
I think cbj was the norm 10 years ago and pressures to do bbbj have been successful. In Vancouver, not so much.
Since the advent of internet porn the girls are growing up a lot more liberal in what they consider "acceptable".
More girls than guys watch it in fact studies have shown. Its why so many 18 year ladies come into the business with a liberal menu. They already did it in high school.
More girls than guys watch it in fact studies have shown. Its why so many 18 year ladies come into the business with a liberal menu. They already did it in high school.
Ok, so pressure I think is certainly in the picture. This is what I think is going on:
Agencies know that clients will respond more if more PSE action is offered. They do the PSE B&S to keep up with the competition, but are also aware that the risk is reputation damage if the clients discover it is mainly B&S. As a result, the agencies do PRESSURE their SPs to offer more PSE (perhaps even give them crap if a customer complains that they didn't when expected). But, despite all the prevalent internet porn glorifying PSE, many SPS are (for now) still relentless to cater to the rising PSE demands. Hence the bind the agencies are in.
By the way, did I mention that I'm a PSE addict?
When an agency advertises all of its girls NOT giving a PSE specific service, but with one girls that DOES give that specific PSE service, do you think that is also a B&S tactic? The first impression I get is that they are being honest there. What do you think?
To an extent, yes, and a function of both: 1) girls who will offer certain services but then only selectively and inconsistently; and 2) agencies who add certain acronyms to an SP's profile without her knowledge or consent.
That said, PSE services are far more readily available and provided today than even ten years ago. I recall that the 'girlfriend experience' first came into play in the late 90s, with the wave of EE SP's shortly after beginning to openly provide a lot of the PSE services that are now standard.
I think you will find that even in the MP business, a very competitive business , that services have opened WAY up..
From what I am hearing when meeting with gentlemen. I am not entirely sure it is more common but it is certainly more advertised. I think PSE and GFE alike are over stated, over advertised, and the expectations have become exceptionally high in some cases. I do feel the "BFE" (boyfriend experience) or "GE" (Gentleman Experience) are often being forgotten.
My understanding before the "creation" of Lily Divine was the following:
GFE is the softer, sensual connection. A true GFE is someone you will actually connect with. Sometimes that will mean soft sensual kisses, sometimes it will be intensely passionate DFK. Sometimes there will be a meeting of the minds where conversation plays a large part in your time together, and other times it is light, playful, and just plain fun. It makes you smile, and feel good about yourself regardless of the events which occur. Think of it as a sensual hug.
PSE is the more intense, frenzied encounter. In fact after the standard status quo conversation (and sometimes without them) you may be falling against the wall, onto the couch or the bed in a tangle of groping hands, and roaming mouths. Naughty words or sentences being dropped. Sometimes there is more intensity to the point of almost feeling over whelmed (maybe a graze of teeth here or there, a gentle raking of nails but remember no marks folks, a gentle swat on the arse). Sometimes it is all about the letters. The gentleman really desires the softer connection of a GFE but desires an island tour (as the discreet term it), or a wandering tongue.
I can tell you that messages such as this:
"bbbj cim sw cof cob Greek?"
Without even a hello first can be off putting. I may have some or all of that in my repertoire but maybe you guys need to utilize a bit of BFE to get to a real PSE experience. Just a thought.
Rimming would sure as heck be YMMV if you have Stinky Nuts! I cannot imagine the poor girls who do advertise this way when I know that some fail to maintain proper hygiene.
My understanding before the "creation" of Lily Divine was the following:
GFE is the softer, sensual connection. A true GFE is someone you will actually connect with. Sometimes that will mean soft sensual kisses, sometimes it will be intensely passionate DFK. Sometimes there will be a meeting of the minds where conversation plays a large part in your time together, and other times it is light, playful, and just plain fun. It makes you smile, and feel good about yourself regardless of the events which occur. Think of it as a sensual hug.
PSE is the more intense, frenzied encounter. In fact after the standard status quo conversation (and sometimes without them) you may be falling against the wall, onto the couch or the bed in a tangle of groping hands, and roaming mouths. Naughty words or sentences being dropped. Sometimes there is more intensity to the point of almost feeling over whelmed (maybe a graze of teeth here or there, a gentle raking of nails but remember no marks folks, a gentle swat on the arse). Sometimes it is all about the letters. The gentleman really desires the softer connection of a GFE but desires an island tour (as the discreet term it), or a wandering tongue.
I can tell you that messages such as this:
"bbbj cim sw cof cob Greek?"
Without even a hello first can be off putting. I may have some or all of that in my repertoire but maybe you guys need to utilize a bit of BFE to get to a real PSE experience. Just a thought.
I cannot resist. I'm so sorry but I have say this:
Rimming would sure as heck be YMMV if you have Stinky Nuts! I cannot imagine the poor girls who do advertise this way when I know that some fail to maintain proper hygiene.
