Apple's planned obsolescence, its true! here's the proof!

[djk]

Google and its hardware partners are showing Apple how its done.

http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visualizing-a-sad-history-of-support

 

[blackrock13]

Apple?

 

[onthebottom]

How pathetic is that... proof that the free OS is value priced....

OTB

 

[WoodPeckr]

Who needs a smartphone anyway?

Ever since I saw the commercial for the new Verizon phone, the Droid, I wanted it. But if I really think about it–why do I want it?....:eyebrows:

By MARISSA ESTEP October 27, 2011

It seems that cellphones are taking over the world. Every day we see a commercial for a new smartphone. I can’t count how many times I have seen an ad for another new iPhone. How many could possibly be made? And what does it have that all the others don’t? There are always more and more phones being invented with supposedly more than what the last phones had to offer. But do we really have the money to go out and buy what is appealing to the eye?

More and more smartphones are being sold every single day. Why is this? It may be because all of the kids want the newest and coolest things. The smartphone is something that every teenager wants. I know firsthand. Ever since I saw the commercial for the new Verizon phone, the Droid, I wanted it. But, if I really think about it–why do I want it? Because it looks cool and has a touchscreen? Because it has Internet access and can play music?

My mom and I recently went to the Verizon store to look for new phones. Of course, I went over to the Droid and asked my mom if I could have it. Was I surprised her answer was no? No. She had a very valid point: With the purchase of a new smartphone, there is a $30 data plan fee every month, and that is not in our budget. With my sister in college and the three of us on the phone plan it would simply be too much. So, the sales associate showed us the nonsmartphones, and I was shocked. I had only about seven phones to choose from. I wondered what happened to all the other phones that were new within the past two years. How could they have gotten rid of them that fast? I didn’t have many choices, but, of course, I chose the one I thought looked the coolest, the one with a touch-screen.

At first I was disappointed but then I thought, did I really need that smartphone anyway? I have a computer at home that has Internet access and I

also have an iPod Touch that plays music perfectly well. So, why do I need a smartphone when I have everything I need right at home? I believe that it is just the idea of having a smartphone that makes everyone so excited. But, I’m sure the price and the data plan fee doesn’t. The majority of kids today all have some sort of music device, and the majority of families own a computer. So why is it necessary to need it on your phone, too?

Ever since I got my phone I have come to realize that I don’t need a smartphone. I am happy with the phone I have now, and, surprisingly, I have had no issues with it, which is really uncommon. Usually within the first month of having a new phone there is some technical difficulties with it, but not with mine. So, I have the best of both worlds –a good phone that has everything I need on it without the data plan. It turns out, less is more.

 

[onthebottom]

Yeah, keep riding around with a netbook on your passenger seat as a GPS....

LMAO

Meanwhile, those of us not running a 14yr old gateway:

Annual smartphone sales will top 1 billion by 2016, says IMS

Smartphone sales are still on track to skyrocket during the next few years and will exceed one billion devices by 2016, IMS Research said in a new report out today.

“The trend is mostly enabled by an increase in entry-level smartphones, which give more users access,” Josh Builta, mobile analyst for IMS Research, told VentureBeat. “Like with many other products, affordability along with high demand equals big sales.”

A prime example that Builta cited for falling smartphone prices is AT&T’s $50 iPhone 3GS. And over time, older-but-still-powerful phones will eventually be offered for free with contracts, at least in the U.S.

“It’s possible Apple could bring out a lower-cost iPhone model to market too,” Builta said. “That would help Apple maintain its momentum.”

For 2011, the report says more than 420 million smartphones will be sold worldwide. Nokia is still the world leader in smartphone sales, but its decline is happening quickly thanks to demand from Apple’s iPhone and manufacturers of Google Android phones.

Take a look at IMS’ chart on the change of sales between quarter one 2010 and quarter one 2011:

These trends will likely continue, especially for Nokia, which is undergoing a dramatic company changeover from Symbian to Windows Phone 7 devices. Apple and Samsung are currently fighting it out to see which company will surpass Nokia in worldwide smartphone sales in the second quarter of 2011.

Builta said strong smartphone sales are sustainable for the foreseeable future. Right now, the North American and European markets have the most smartphone penetration, but those sales will likely level out in the next few years. But as those sales level, high-population countries like China and India will start seeing larger penetration and pick up the slack to push worldwide sales even higher.

“Higher smartphone demand is being driven by factors like a wider range of applications and social networking,” Builta said. “And who knows what else is around the corner?”

OTB

 

[WoodPeckr]

Yeah, keep riding around with a netbook on your passenger seat as a GPS....

LMAO

Decided to stick with the laptop!
I like the bigger screen better.....:biggrin1:

 

[djk]

How pathetic is that... proof that the free OS is value priced....

OTB

I know. I love how Apple supports the iPhone 3GS with iOS 5 but Google won't put ICS on the Nexus One.

Now that's pathetic.

 

[Cobster]

I know. I love how Apple supports the iPhone 3GS with iOS 5 but Google won't put ICS on the Nexus One.

Now that's pathetic.

Pathetic agreed, I can't live with my current version of Android which is about a year or so old.
Anyone who can't get ICS on their new phones are better off shooting themselves. No more calls, no more surfing, no more texting, how can life go on?


I remember a few years ago, people were whining and crying the MBPs didn't have an SD slot, and yet life went on, people were gullible enough to still buy their MCultBooks.
Can't imagine how they survived?

Or how about the 512 RAM in the iPad2? Whereas the RAM of other competitors are at double that, yes, that's right, 1G of RAM.
Or the camera on the iPad2, 1, 2, 3-megapixels? That's so 2001-2003 isn't it? Wait, did they even mention how many megapixels it is?

Now that's pathetic too, Google, Apple, shame on you both.

 

[Tangwhich]

I know. I love how Apple supports the iPhone 3GS with iOS 5 but Google won't put ICS on the Nexus One.

Now that's pathetic.

If it will work then I would agree. But from what I've read they said the hardware isn't powerful enough. So isn't it actually RESPONSIBLE of them not to issue ICS for the nexus one?
From what I've seen, the difference from earlier versions of iOS to the most recent are subtle. The changes in android are fairly dramatic so it seems logical that older devices are less capable of running software. 2 years in electronics is a long time.

 

[djk]

If it will work then I would agree. But from what I've read they said the hardware isn't powerful enough. So isn't it actually RESPONSIBLE of them not to issue ICS for the nexus one?
From what I've seen, the difference from earlier versions of iOS to the most recent are subtle. The changes in android are fairly dramatic so it seems logical that older devices are less capable of running software. 2 years in electronics is a long time.

I was running iOS 5 on my 3GS until I sold it last week upon receiving my 4S.

It runs smoothly. The beta on the other hand.... yeesh.

 

[Tangwhich]

I was running iOS 5 on my 3GS until I sold it last week upon receiving my 4S.

It runs smoothly. The beta on the other hand.... yeesh.

I don't doubt it, but it didn't give you features like siri did it?
If they (google) were to port ICS to the nexus one, I would imagine they'd have to strip out a few things too. There's just too few people with a nexus one (and I'm one of them) to justify it. I never expected ICS to come to my phone (although I'm pretty confident that the ROM makers will port it). I actually don't want it, I've got hardware buttons and I'm looking forward to the software based buttons of the Galaxy Nexus. I've had almost 2 years of good service from it, but in cell phone upgrade terms that's the longest I've had any phone. MOST owners of the nexus one are power users who would probably upgrade anyway. This is being blown a bit out of proportion.

 

[djk]

I don't doubt it, but it didn't give you features like siri did it?
If they (google) were to port ICS to the nexus one, I would imagine they'd have to strip out a few things too. There's just too few people with a nexus one (and I'm one of them) to justify it. I never expected ICS to come to my phone (although I'm pretty confident that the ROM makers will port it). I actually don't want it, I've got hardware buttons and I'm looking forward to the software based buttons of the Galaxy Nexus. I've had almost 2 years of good service from it, but in cell phone upgrade terms that's the longest I've had any phone. MOST owners of the nexus one are power users who would probably upgrade anyway. This is being blown a bit out of proportion.

Siri is nice but there's a lot of value in iOS 5 for iPhone owners. I suspect the same with ICS. Most users would love to have the ICS experience, even if there's a few features missing. Better than nothing, right?

The other issue with the infographic is the poor support from Android OEMs. They're not providing after sales support. The HTC Droid Incredible was a flagship handset in its day. And I'm sure its still pretty robust but there was a year gap with its update to the latest OS at that time. This adds to the fragmentation problem Android has.

I wonder why the Android OEMs drag their heels on providing updates. Planned obsolescence? After-sales support making their razor thin profits thinner? Need to focus all resources to new hardware?

 

[Tangwhich]

I wonder why the Android OEMs drag their heels on providing updates. Planned obsolescence? After-sales support making their razor thin profits thinner? Need to focus all resources to new hardware?

Everything these days has planned obsolescence. Most people are on contract for these expensive phones so it's not like they are going to get a new phone every few months anyways.
The OEMs make their own versions of the OS. If you want Android as it was made, then you have to get a "nexus" phone. The other phones have manufacturer and phone provider specific tweaks which is why they don't get the updates right away.
I personally wouldn't buy a non Nexus phone, but most people don't know the difference. A friend of mine only recently got the gingerbread update to his galaxy sII, but that was a rogers issue, not samsung/google.
Fingers pointing at the wrong people again.
In this case I think apple got it right. One system, no tweaking, everyone is the same but I don't see that happening with android because it is open for all to use so that's the trade off for freedom.

 

[djk]

I personally wouldn't buy a non Nexus phone, but most people don't know the difference. A friend of mine only recently got the gingerbread update to his galaxy sII, but that was a rogers issue, not samsung/google.

Too many cooks spoil the broth.

And most end users really don't care who's at fault. They just want their stuff to work.

I think Google's approach will eventually catch up to them. Right now, they're in growth at all costs mode. They realize that mobile devices (I'm including tablets here, too) and cloud computing is the future. Since 98% of their revenue comes from advertising, they need to align themselves to have a dominant position in the future. And what better way to do that than own the mobile OS, too? That's why they're pushing Chrome aggressively now. I suspect once growth starts to stagnate, they're going pull a Microsoft, do a 180 and start focusing on user experience.

Over the last few years, Microsoft's products have an Apple aesthetic to them. Windows Phone 7 - no flash, no third party multitasking, push notifications - where have we heard that before? Windows 8 talking about how the UI has to be finger friendly, holding conferences telling their developers to stop making ugly apps.

 

[Tangwhich]

And most end users really don't care who's at fault. They just want their stuff to work.

You make it sound much worse than it is. Most people have these phones (and they work fine) and don't know anything about these software upgrades. Sure my friend was a bit pissed his update took so long, but he's a power user and not typical. These fragmentation "issues" really only impact a very small section of the user base but are pounced upon by the competition as some sort of big deal.

 

[onthebottom]

You make it sound much worse than it is. Most people have these phones (and they work fine) and don't know anything about these software upgrades. Sure my friend was a bit pissed his update took so long, but he's a power user and not typical. These fragmentation "issues" really only impact a very small section of the user base but are pounced upon by the competition as some sort of big deal.

If you look at the web and apps usage I think this is especially true for Android users....

OTB

 

[nottyboi]

The fact is, most people won't bother to upgrade the OS on their smartphone even IF it were available... for the small % who desperately want ICS on their phone, there is are the custom roms that are available. So the market is efficiently served. Most hardcore Android geeks have already rooted their phones and going with a custom ROM is desirable. Frankly I can't be bothered yet. I do more things on my phone then most people and even I can't be bothered to root... maybe I will upgrade to ICS, maybe I won't.... we shall see.

 

[WoodPeckr]

I remember a few years ago, people were whining and crying the MBPs didn't have an SD slot, and yet life went on, people were gullible enough to still buy their MCultBooks.
Can't imagine how they survived?

Or how about the 512 RAM in the iPad2? Whereas the RAM of other competitors are at double that, yes, that's right, 1G of RAM.
Or the camera on the iPad2, 1, 2, 3-megapixels? That's so 2001-2003 isn't it? Wait, did they even mention how many megapixels it is?

Now that's pathetic too, Google, Apple, shame on you both.

No SD slots, no usb ports and no RAM on early iPads but instead of being cheaper missing all those features, Apple raped their rubes who couldn't bend over fast enough to get boned.
No wonder bottie our bottom luvs Apple....

 

[onthebottom]

The fact is, most people won't bother to upgrade the OS on their smartphone even IF it were available... for the small % who desperately want ICS on their phone, there is are the custom roms that are available. So the market is efficiently served. Most hardcore Android geeks have already rooted their phones and going with a custom ROM is desirable. Frankly I can't be bothered yet. I do more things on my phone then most people and even I can't be bothered to root... maybe I will upgrade to ICS, maybe I won't.... we shall see.

Simply not true.... look at the Apple data from the link, if you release compelling upgrades and make them simple you get tremendous adoption...

OTB

 

[WoodPeckr]

But is it simple enough for you to do bottie???....:eyebrows: