Appeal Court upholds Quebec law that bars teachers, police from wearing religious symbols

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Civil liberties groups argued law discriminates against Muslim women who wear head coverings

The Quebec Court of Appeal has upheld the province's controversial secularism law in a ruling on challenges to the law's constitutionality released Thursday afternoon.

The heavily anticipated judgment is 290-pages long and quashes a previous exception, made by Superior Court Judge Marc-André Blanchard, that allowed English schools to employ teachers wearing religious symbols — such as a head covering — while on the job.

A panel of Appeal Court judges heard arguments from civil liberties groups challenging the law, as well as from the government, in November 2022.

Premier François Legault's government had appealed the Superior Court decision, rendered in April 2021, that upheld most of the law but made the exception for English schools.

His government had said the exception created an unfair distinction between francophone and anglophone schools.

In a summary of their decision Thursday, the Appeal Court justices, Manon Savard, Yves-Marie Morrissette et Marie-France Bich, said the law does not go against "the unwritten principles of the Constitution, nor the constitutional architecture, nor any pre-Confederation law or principle having constitutional value."

They said their judgment had nothing to do with "diverse opinions about [the law], whether politically, sociologically or morally."

"The Court, like the Superior Court before it, is in fact acting here as part of a process of monitoring the legality of the law (a process initiated by different groups of litigants) and it is not ruling on the wisdom of the law," the judges wrote.

The secularism law, which has been in place since June 2019, prevents a number of civil servants — including teachers and police officers — from wearing religious symbols while on the job.

The justices said that, in their opinion, Blanchard had erred in creating the exception for English schools. They said the law did not impede anglophone students from receiving their minority-language education.

"Rather, what is at issue here is a restriction on the recruitment of personnel, which however remains unrelated to any linguistic consideration," the judges wrote.

The judges did however maintain another exception created in Blanchard's judgment — that MNAs be exempt from the law — saying elected officials should have the right to wear religious symbols, unlike other representatives of the state in positions of authority such as judges, Crown prosecutors, prison guards, police officers, school principals and teachers.

Several groups have challenged the law's constitutionality. The Canadian Civil Liberties Association and the National Council of Canadian Muslims were among those arguing Bill 21 discriminates on the basis of religion.

Arguments in the Court of Appeal case were heard by a panel of judges a year and a half ago. At the time, the panel of judges hinted that the case hinged on whether the bill disproportionately discriminates against Muslim women who wear the hijab.

A key argument of groups opposed to the law is that it discriminates on the basis of gender by disproportionately targeting Muslim women. Provincial laws that can be shown to be discriminatory on the basis of gender cannot be shielded by the notwithstanding clause.

 
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I think those who claim to be affected should be required to bring evidence that they had requested their invisible guy to give them permission not to wear their funny hats or whatever to work and that their invisible guy refused to grant such permission, and also evidence that their position vis-à-vis their invisible guy would be materially impacted if they disobey.
 
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Yes, but the question is whether or not this is the only challenge.
actually the question is what is your stance and opinion on the topic. That’s an extremely ambiguous and safe response. And What back up do you have that supports your opinion which ever way you go.

This ought to be fun.
 
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actually the question is what is your stance and opinion on the topic
Why is that the question?
The question I asked - because I honestly don't know - is whether this is the only court challenge to the constitutionality of the law.
I was under the impression this was a case about a few specific exceptions to the law and that there were other cases taking on other aspects of its constitutionality.
I may be wrong about that, but I honestly don't know, which is why I asked the question.

That’s an extremely ambiguous and safe response. And What back up do you have that supports your opinion which ever way you go.
Given that this is a question about a law, are you expecting legal citations for why I believe what I do about the law?
Or is this just a question of a moral opinion on the purpose of the law and whether or not it will be effective?

This ought to be fun.
You never have fun talking to me.
You tend to get angry, and sputtering, and what appears to be incredibly frustrated.
 

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Why is that the question?
The question I asked - because I honestly don't know - is whether this is the only court challenge to the constitutionality of the law.
I was under the impression this was a case about a few specific exceptions to the law and that there were other cases taking on other aspects of its constitutionality.
I may be wrong about that, but I honestly don't know, which is why I asked the question.



Given that this is a question about a law, are you expecting legal citations for why I believe what I do about the law?
Or is this just a question of a moral opinion on the purpose of the law and whether or not it will be effective?



You never have fun talking to me.
You tend to get angry, and sputtering, and what appears to be incredibly frustrated.
it’s pretty straightforward. It’s not a complicated question.

What is your opinion on the topic of barring religious headware ( in favour or against) and subsequently what back up do you have, that forms/supports that opinion.

I or maybe we feel like challenging your statements/opinions for a change. Isn’t that what you said you do (and not just to me) to Wyatt. Yes it is. Turn around is fair play Valcazar.
 
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I wonder if any civil servants will be fired or disciplined for their cross necklace showing. If that happens, I may be willing to accept this law isn't intended to target religious minorities.
 
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it’s pretty straightforward. It’s not a complicated question.

What is your opinion on the topic of barring religious headware ( in favour or against) and subsequently what back up do you have, that forms/supports that opinion.

I or maybe we feel like challenging your statements/opinions for a change. Isn’t that what you said you do (and not just to me) to Wyatt. Yes it is. Turn around is fair play Valcazar.
But you already know my opinion.
You've been stalking the board for years in preparation, remember? ;)
 

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I wonder if any civil servants will be fired or disciplined for their cross necklace showing. If that happens, I may be willing to accept this law isn't intended to target religious minorities.
That's the real question, isn't it?
How serious is the CAQ about this and how much is just disguised racism/nativism?

To answer NGY:

I think the law is kind of a mess.
While I am in favour of secular society, my view of that has been shaped by growing up in the Anglo-American tradition of secularism and this is rooted in the French tradition of laïcité.
So I realize some of my worry about this is based on it taking an approach that doesn't agree with the view I was raised with on how to accomplish this.

It's hard not to think that this law was, in fact, just made to appeal to an anti-immigrant nativism couched in the classic "neutral" language that just conveniently hits one group more than another.
As you say, basketcase, how strenuously will this be applied against someone wearing a cross?
What counts as "a religious symbol" still seems very vague to me, and how is it going to react to the inevitable moment where people just adopt a new symbol to wear? One that gets plausibly denied?
I just don't think this law does a great job of what it is claiming to do and can't shake the idea that it has always been just a ploy to appeal to some of the CAQs base.


As for the bit in this decision where they exempted English schools, that never seemed a strong decision to me, and I think the court is correct here in getting rid of that.

Of course, this is all just opinion, since this is a law about the character of society.
 

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I wonder if any civil servants will be fired or disciplined for their cross necklace showing. If that happens, I may be willing to accept this law isn't intended to target religious minorities.
I am looking forward to it lol
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