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I found out yesterday that my 25 yr old son is in the Hospital because of a bad headache, vomiting and severly high blood pressure,,,,also his kidney is causing concern.
They gave him pain meds but the bp did not come down.
They gave him an i.v. drip with bp meds, the headache increased.
He is now on regular shots for the pain as well as on the bp meds. He has been told he will be staying a few days while they run a barrage of tests to find out what the problem/s is/are.
I am worried, did some searching online and have learned a few things but I am concerned still about the severe headache.
Anyone have any thoughts, opinions, advice etc?
 

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He is in Chatham, I am in Mississauga. But I have asked my Son to give his nurse my number and I have asked family down there to go and make sure he is not alone.
 

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High BP is a serious health issue, but it should be treatable with meds and perhaps a lifestyle change, eg diet, exercise, stress reduction.

The fact that he is in a hospital getting treatment is good news because BP symptoms are not obvious.
 

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Understanding Blood Pressure
Every person needs blood pressure to live. Without it, blood wouldn't be able to circulate through the body to carry oxygen and fuel vital organs.

Blood pressure is the pressure your blood exerts against your blood vessel walls as your heart pumps. Blood pressure rises with each heartbeat and falls when the heart relaxes between beats, but there is always a certain amount of pressure in the arteries. That blood pressure comes from two physical forces. The heart creates one force as it pumps blood into the arteries and through the circulatory system. The other force comes from the arteries resisting the blood flow.

Blood pressure changes from minute to minute and is affected not only by activity and rest, but also by temperature, diet, emotional state, posture, and medications.

Blood pressure is measured in millimeters of mercury (written as mm Hg). For example, normal blood pressure in adults should be less than 120/80 mm Hg. The higher, or top, number — in this example it's 120 — is called systolic pressure and represents the pressure at the peak of each heartbeat. The lower, or bottom, number (80 in this example) is called diastolic and represents the pressure when the heart is resting between beats. The systolic pressure is stated first and the diastolic pressure comes second. For example: 120/80 (120 over 80) means that the systolic pressure is 120 and the diastolic pressure is 80.

Blood pressure is measured using an instrument called a sphygmomanometer (pronounced: sfig-mow-mah-nah-meh-ter). A cuff is wrapped around a person's upper arm and pumped up to create pressure. When the cuff is inflated, it compresses (squeezes on) a large artery in the arm, stopping the blood flow for a moment. Blood pressure is measured as air is gradually let out of the cuff, which allows blood to begin to flow through the artery again when the blood pressure in the artery is greater than the pressure in the cuff.

Listening with a stethoscope — the instrument used to hear things like the heart beating inside the body — over the artery allows a doctor or nurse to hear the first pulse as the blood flows through. This is the systolic pressure. The diastolic pressure is noted when the sounds disappear.

What Is Hypertension?
Hypertension is the medical term for high blood pressure. Most people associate high blood pressure with getting older, so it may seem odd that teens can have the condition. Although high blood pressure is rare in young people (only about 1% to 3% of kids in the United States have hypertension), it's important to check for it. Even babies can have high blood pressure!

Almost 60 million Americans age 6 and older have high blood pressure. That means about 1 in 5 Americans has the condition. Because a third to a half of the people who have high blood pressure don't even know it, doctors are careful to check their patients for hypertension regularly.

Blood pressure of less than 120 over 80 is considered a normal reading for people 18 and over. A borderline high systolic pressure of 120 to 139 or a diastolic pressure of 80 to 89 needs to be closely monitored. A blood pressure reading equal to or greater than 140 over 90 is considered high in people over the age of 18.

Because of the way blood pressure readings are calculated for children and teens, readings that doctors consider high in teens can be lower than the blood pressure readings that are considered high in adults.

In teens up to age 18, high blood pressure is defined as a blood pressure greater than the 95th percentile for their age, height, and gender (in other words, 95% of kids at the same age, height, and gender will have blood pressure below this number). Measurements between 90% to 95% of the expected range are considered high — normal or prehypertension.

Teens with blood pressure readings that are greater than 90% of the expected range are three times more likely than those with average readings to develop high blood pressure as adults.

A doctor will average at least three blood pressure measurements taken at different times before determining that a teen has hypertension. Most teens will have their blood pressure checked during an annual physical exam. Doctors recommend that older teens with normal blood pressure get their blood pressure checked yearly.

If your blood pressure is near the top of the normal range or if you have a family history of high blood pressure, you're at a higher risk for developing hypertension. Your doctor can advise you as to how often you should have your blood pressure checked in this situation.

What Causes Hypertension?
Most blood pressure doesn't have a cause and is called essential or primary hypertension. In cases where the cause of high blood pressure is known (called secondary hypertension), it is usually the result of kidney problems, hormonal disorders, abnormalities of the aorta (the main artery that carries oxygenated blood to the body), or a narrowing of certain smaller arteries. Doctors screen teens with high blood pressure for secondary causes with physical examination and laboratory testing.

Some teens may inherit the tendency toward higher blood pressure from one or both parents. Although hypertension often runs in families, some people with a strong family history of high blood pressure may never develop it.

Kids and teens who are obese are at a higher risk for hypertension. Lack of exercise makes it easier to become overweight and increases the chance of high blood pressure. People who drink a lot of alcohol or take illegal drugs like amphetamines and cocaine are also at risk of developing the condition. In some cases, medications like steroids or birth control pills can cause high blood pressure.

Pregnant women also may be diagnosed with hypertension. This type of hypertension is known as preeclampsia (pronounced: pree-ih-klamp-see-uh), or toxemia. It's uncommon, though: Only about 6% to 8% of pregnant women get this condition.

How Does High Blood Pressure Affect the Body?
High blood pressure adds to the workload of the heart and arteries. The heart must pump harder and the arteries must carry blood that's moving under greater pressure. If high blood pressure continues for a long time, the heart and arteries may no longer work as well as they should. Other body organs, including the kidneys, eyes, and brain also may be affected.

People can live with hypertension for many years without having any symptoms. That's why high blood pressure is often called "the silent killer." Though a person may not have any symptoms, it doesn't mean that the high blood pressure isn't affecting the body.

Having high blood pressure puts a person at more risk for strokes, heart attacks, kidney failure, loss of vision, and atherosclerosis (hardening of the arteries). In rare cases, severe hypertension can sometimes cause headaches, visual changes, dizziness, nosebleeds, and nausea.

A person who has high blood pressure and experiences any of these symptoms should be treated immediately.

How Do Doctors Diagnose High Blood Pressure?
For most teens, the only way to know if you have high blood pressure is to get your blood pressure checked. It's painless and fast.

A single reading showing high blood pressure doesn't necessarily mean that you have hypertension, but it is an indication that it should be watched carefully. Some people have what's called "white coat hypertension," meaning that their blood pressure rises at a doctor's office because they are anxious. When they feel more relaxed, their blood pressure usually decreases. Ambulatory blood pressure monitoring, a test where your blood pressure is measured over a whole day, helps in separating white coat hypertension from true hypertension.

Someone may need to get his or her blood pressure checked several times over a period of days or weeks to determine if they have hypertension. A doctor should recommend how to go about this.

Doctors usually ask for the following information to help determine what might cause someone's high blood pressure:

a complete medical history, including questions about a person's present and past health and the health of family members
whether that person is taking any medications
whether that person smokes or drinks alcohol
eating and exercise habits
The doctor will probably take weight and height measurements, and might perform urine or blood tests to check for other physical problems, such as a kidney problem or a thyroid disorder that sometimes can be the underlying cause of high blood pressure. A doctor may also test for high blood cholesterol and other conditions that can increase someone's risk for developing heart disease or stroke.

How Is Hypertension Treated?
Hypertension can be a temporary or lifelong disease, depending on the cause. Regardless of what causes high blood pressure, the important thing is to keep it under control. People who manage their high blood pressure with a treatment program lower their risk of having serious complications as they get older.

Although medication may be necessary to control high blood pressure, in many cases it can be managed with lifestyle improvements, such as weight loss and dietary changes.

If you've been diagnosed with hypertension, you and your doctor will work as a team to decide on the best course of action for you. Your doctor will most likely recommend that you make lifestyle changes such as eating less fat and salt, avoiding alcohol and cigarettes, and making sure you get plenty of exercise.

Exercise is an important treatment for hypertension. Only people with severe uncontrolled hypertension, which is very rare, need to be careful about exercise. The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) recommends that teens with severe hypertension avoid certain sports only until their hypertension is under control. Sports on the "avoid" list include weight lifting and bodybuilding, especially if done competitively — in other words, sports that focus on building muscle mass but do not balance it with aerobic activity. People whose hypertension is less severe or under control are encouraged to participate in sports as a way of managing their condition.

Can I Prevent Hypertension?
Here are some suggestions that can lessen your chances of developing high blood pressure and help keep you healthy in many other ways:

Maintain a normal weight for your height.
Exercise regularly. This can help prevent you from becoming overweight or help you in losing pounds if you need to. Exercise also helps keep your heart and blood vessels strong and healthy.
Eat a healthy diet that includes mostly whole grains, low-fat dairy products, fruits, and vegetables.
Don't smoke. Smoking and high blood pressure are major risk factors for having a heart attack or stroke later in life.
Keep your stress levels in check. It may help to practice relaxation techniques such as deep breathing exercises.
Decrease your sodium (salt) intake. Consuming less sodium has been proven to help lower blood pressure in some people and may prevent some from developing high blood pressure in the first place. Salt is often found in breads, baked goods, and other processed/canned foods.
Avoid drinking too much alcohol, which is associated with high blood pressure.
Know your blood pressure. Have it checked regularly — although high blood pressure is more common in adults, it can occur at any age.
Reviewed by: Samuel S. Gidding, MD
Date reviewed: August 2008
 

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He is a healthy young man, physically fit, active, only recreational drugs are 420 not a drinker
they are thinking a blockage of the renal vein to his kidneys?
 

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I hope his doctors know what they're doing, it's a good sign they're doing tests and not just sending him home.

He's lucky to have a good mother who is concerned for him.
 

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He is a healthy young man, physically fit, active, only recreational drugs are 420 not a drinker
they are thinking a blockage of the renal vein to his kidneys?
1. Anyone can have HBP (hypertension)
Weight, alcohol, prescription meds, street meds, lack of activity, smoking, diet, soda pop, sleeplessness, stress, over exertion in heat (Heat Stroke), heredity.

2. A blockage could be hardening of the artery caused by high cholesterol and that can occur anywhere blood flows.

3. I've experienced this with both parents for many years before their passing. A good cardiologist, family doctor and dietician can make a significant difference.

Hope he listens and gets better.
 

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I know this is an outlet for you to share, but if there every was an example of when NOT to go to the internet for medical insight, THIS is it.

Not that you would rely on their advice for treatment, but you are needlessly worrying yourself with useless opinions from cut and paste experts like HOF.

If the medical doctors in the hospital fail to find a cause, then become an Internet Google MD yourself!
Don't want to be rude, but I have to agree
 

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Some good advice and info here; even if some of it is cut and paste...

Basically; sounds like he's in the right place, and the right things are happening. (At a hospital, and being both treated, and the cause investigated).

Blood pressure issues can be caused by 100's of issues; some very serious; some not so much - everything from neurological disease, to drug or environmental interaction, to stress, to physiological causes. No one here knows what's causing your son's specific issue, so no one can comment with authority.

High BP in and of itself, can cause issues; due to the stress placed on blood vessel walls, and the circulatory and respiratory systems in general. Aneurysms, heart attack/stroke, and lung funtion damage are possible, along with many other problems; but typically are caused by longer term elevated BP's. An otherwise healthy person, which a one-time high-BP event, would likely suffer no long-term ill effects...

Good luck, and best wishes!
 

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May be Potassium related for example leakage but I'm no Gregory House.

Wait for the test results from the docs and their recommendations, pray and go from there.

Hope all ends well.
 

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I know this is an outlet for you to share, but if there every was an example of when NOT to go to the internet for medical insight, THIS is it.

Not that you would rely on their advice for treatment, but you are needlessly worrying yourself with useless opinions from cut and paste experts like HOF.

If the medical doctors in the hospital fail to find a cause, then become an Internet Google MD yourself!
The information that I posted is exactly what a cardiologist, family doctor or dietician would be telling her. Yes, TY could have looked the information up herself. Hell, if TY has a good pharmacist, she could there and get alot of information or call telehealth.

Rubmeister, et al, you have no idea of what knowledge I have. No I'll never be a doctor, but I am a first responder, red cross instructor, red cross search and rescue member. I wouldn't have posted that information if it wouldn't be useful in understanding what HBP is. In addition, both of my parents suffered HBP due to other major illnesses, and I was the family caregiver, at all the appointments, administered all the medications, so I had to know what did what and any contra-indicating medications. I've seen my parents go through 3 cancers, quad bypass, pacemaker and defibrilator placement, stroke, neuro-surgery, spleen removal, improper medications and the reactions, pancreatic cancer, CHF that shut the kidneys and other organs causing death. Furthermore arranging around the clock homecare for both simultaneously, that's right both were palliative and yes, I changed diapers, fed, changed their bedsore dressings both parents in their need so that they could live their last days in their home and not the garage or some unkept nursing home and worked straight nightshifts for 4 years and be home with them during the day. Our doctor made weekly housecalls, there was nursing checks 2 times daily for boils and sores. That's about 1/4 of what I did and I learned.

I learned how to push the right buttons to get what my family required for in-home palliative care.

I couldn't give a shit what you and others think. You don't know shit about me and you continue to be a blister on the asshole of life! You may be the almighty Rubmeister in your world, maybe you should stay in your world.

Ya, I know, I know, blah, blah, blah, but at least I was being proactive and trying to the lady.
 

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The only thing I can say is physically go in there and talk to the doctor face to face. Ask a LOT of questions. Note the answers. Ask what else could be causing it, ask whether they have checked for that. If not, ask why not, and ask that they check for it. And so on. Make sure that this is about listening to the doctor and then pushing for the things the doctor suspects might be needed, not about contradicting or challenging the doctor. Your goal is to get him to do HIS best, by pushing to make sure he does everything HE can do. Always remember he is the expert. You can probably push the doctor into doing some additional tests that he otherwise would have left out by being there, being polite but pushy, and staying informed. One of those additional tests just might turn up something useful.

Also you can play a role by managing care there. If they say at test is needed, get right on top of it and ask when, can it happen faster, can you call the lab and see if they have an opening? No? Then give me the number of the lab and let me call, and so on. Often if you wait for them to schedule a test it'll take longer than if you go to the desk and say, "My son's waiting for XYZ test and he's in a lot of pain, can you get him in sooner?"

You can do a LOT of good just by being there, listening the doctor, and then pushing hard for the things you hear that your son might need. Your son probably can't do this for himself because he's been floored by his illness and may not have the energy. You can step in and be the strong advocate that makes sure everything gets done properly.
 

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Yeah yeah HOF, except that your experience with your elderly parents cancer is not relevant to her situation. And if you are a professional "First Responder" then you would know better and simply tell her to trust the REAL responders, Medical Doctors in the hospital emergency department.

I know more about medicine than I say. I immediately saw the connection between the kidney and high blood pressure. I thought things like high creatine phosphokinase (CPK) that can result in kidney failure etc. But I resist opening my mouth and bringing up things that are so uninformed because despite everyone thinking that all Doctors are useless assholes that don't care, most are way smarter and more educated than us. And he IS in a hospital! With real Doctors and with real lab tests and they can actually touch and see the guy!

Oh and as for your words:



Of course you give a shit about what we think. It is very apparent.

I know enough about you to dismiss a lot of what you say.

Calling any member "a blister on the asshole of life" is not only pretty desperate and juvenile, it is also one of the foremost sins of any forum. Such a vulgar personal attack is a banning offence, and rightly so.

Getting called this by someone whom I have little respect for their opinions and judgement is somewhat of a badge of honour for me, but I think it is not cool for the health of the forum. Otherwise it turns into a rabid hate-fest like other places escorts are discussed on the internet I see your name as a primary focus.
You would know about attacking others wouldn't you Rubbie! You do it so often in subtle ways and I have absolutely no respect for you because if it's not your opinion, it doesn't matter. Post 9, I encourage TY to have her son see a cardiologist, family doctor and dietician, but you may have missed that.

As for my name being the primary focus of anything, I'm not the one in BLUE! You've slung a fair share of insults my way that were not warranted or wanted either. The mods can and will do as they see fit. I'm done with this thread.

TY, I wish you and your son well and that was the point of the information I posted.
 

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Thank you SO MUCH for your encouragement and support and helpful advice and information.
Thank you Hoff for the medical info, I did google all kinds of things to do with HBP in young people and noticed the link to a possible narrowing of the renal artery....in which case the treatment sounds simple enough. Inserting a balloon shunt? If I have that right?
I plan on asking the Dr. lots and lots of questions lol. Also he has a history of migraine headaches, nosebleeds and sinus infections. No idea if any of that is relevant but I would like to find out.
I am not able to rush down there which was my first instinct but I have contacted everyone I know in town and I am sending my Daughter down there to speak to the nurses and Dr. on my behalf until I am able to get there myself. She is like me lol, she will make sure that no one forgets about him ;)
he is in ICU however so I am confident he is getting constant care and he did say they are trying to find a happy balance with the BP meds and the pain meds while they are getting these tests done.
Gentlemen, please don't argue with each other, you have all shown what caring people you are in giving me the best info, the best advice and the best encouragement you can give and I appreciate each and every one of you for taking the time to do so.
I am a bit of a loner and I find 'talking' to the people on this board to be very cathartic (SP?)
Thank you.....big hugs. Will keep you all posted.
Lady Ty
 

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I find 'talking' to the people on this board to be very cathartic (SP?)
I know what you mean. When mom was sick there was a small support group at the hospital who were going through similar experiences. None of us were doctors or nurses but we were sharing a similar life experience and the pooling of knowledge was very helpful. Bear in mind that doctors and nurses are extremely busy and they don't have time to stand around for Q & A's. Talking to other people in similar circumstances helps one to know what questions to ask and whom to ask and how to navigate the maze that is our medical system.
 

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Sorry to hear about this, I hope they can figure it out, for his sake, and yours too. It does take awhile to get the right mix of meds, if this is what they end up doing, but I have been on them for years, and when they get it right, its usually something somewhat easily controlled, with few sideeffects
 

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Thank you for your continued support, it is comforting to know that so many care.
His Sperm Donor (Father) has gone to stay with him at the Hospital.....let's not even get started on how I feel about that lol
I am grateful however that someone is with him full time and that he is keeping me informed of any and everything that is going on.
He has also made a point of keeping too many visitors from coming, apparently my son feels the need to sit up and be 'polite' when guests arrive and this makes his blood pressure rise even more. So, a quiet, dark, peaceful atmosphere is required at the moment. sigh
It is times like this that I really miss having a significant other. I had a friend tell me that I should be there with my son immediately, that nothing else matters. Which of course is exactly how I feel, however, bills still need to be paid and the only way I can take care of my financial obligations is to WORK, I am not much use to my family if I am on the street......The friend is married and has a partner who works.....ahem.

Aaaaarrrrgggghhhhh
I am sorry for sounding frustrated, I want to be there with him in the worst way, he is my youngest child and is doing so damn good in his life........dammit......
 

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It is times like this that I really miss having a significant other.
Sometimes it also means that you have to divert time and energy to "managing" the SO during a time of crisis when all your time and energy should be focussed on your son. I remember when mom was in the hospital and I spent countless hours in the waiting room I would see large Italian families in the waiting room bickering with each other over how to handle the care of their loved one. In some respect these family members were like the blind leading the blind.
 
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