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Any reports of looting and murder in Japan?

dj1470

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Don't think so.
I haven't heard anything about it on the news.
I don't really think looting is an issue in Japanese culture.
 

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Last time I was in Tokyo my friend's bicycle disappeared from outside her home. I said it got stolen. She said wait and see. Next day it returned. Plainly someone felt they needed to use it, but brought it back the next day. It was in good condition--looks like the "thief" cleaned it up and polished it a little before bringing it back.
 

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This may be generalizing and stereotyping but the Japanese do not strike me as a people that would loot
 

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Someone on CNN asked about looting last night. The reply was that it is completely unheard of in Japan. At times like these the Japanese supposedly thinks more about the collective good than personal gain.
You're partially correct. Even more it has to do with the individual not wanting to bring shame on themselves or their family/friends/associates.
 

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I more concerned that all the commotion has woken Godzilla. Just what they don't need right now.
 

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There is a certain -ahem- culture or segment of the population that was quit visible in both New Orleans and Los Angeles in the Rodney King riots.

And in Haiti now that I think of it.

I doubt even the poorest, most oppressed members of Japanese society would resort to looting.


(Ok, who is going to be the first to say that not ALL (of whatever particular ethnicity) are looting thieves? And the first to fill the the blank and infer they read my mind and therefore I am a racist?)
looters (like the Katrina disaster) should be shot on sight.

agree with others on Japan, I think the culture has a lot to do with it.
 

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Someone on CNN asked about looting last night. The reply was that it is completely unheard of in Japan. At times like these the Japanese supposedly thinks more about the collective good than personal gain.
Maybe I should move there before Apocalypse 2012.

Watched a little of the History Channels 'After Armageddon' and I found it sad that if the big event occurs, the likelihood is that man will just resort to 'evil'.
I imagine if this were to happen in Toronto (say an earthquake or tsunami), we would just revert to primitive savages.
 

Mervyn

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Katrina was looter heaven, how does Japan compare?
What you have to remember is when Katrina was over, it was over it was relatively safe to travel around and loot.

But in Japan even before the big quake, they had what they called a fore shock of 7 , then the quake of 8.9 , the resulting Tsunami , all the subsequent aftershock, nuclear plant problems, mudslides, fires etc etc etc...
I don't know if it's even safe enough for looters to risk it yet
 

james t kirk

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There is a certain -ahem- culture or segment of the population that was quit visible in both New Orleans and Los Angeles in the Rodney King riots.

And in Haiti now that I think of it.

I doubt even the poorest, most oppressed members of Japanese society would resort to looting.


(Ok, who is going to be the first to say that not ALL (of whatever particular ethnicity) are looting thieves? And the first to fill the the blank and infer they read my mind and therefore I am a racist?)
No, you're quite correct.

Japan will be up and running and fully recovered from this BEFORE Haiti has even begun to think about cleaning up the streets. (I'd be willing to bet that most if not all of the aid money (if it ever even got to Haiti) will just be pocketed by corrupt local bureaucrats in Haiti.

It gets tired being called a racist when you are just stating the obvious. The Japanese are an industrious, hard working, meticulous people and they will pick themselves up from this. The Haitians - not so much.
 

james t kirk

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I think there is a clear line between looters and surviving.

I have no real fundamental problem with citizens in a disaster zone helping themselves to enough FOOD or water/drinks in destroyed buildings or whatever, to survive. It is likely to be thrown out in many cases and there is an underlying basic human need.

But nobody needs to loot theysleves a big screen TV.
Like this:

 

Samurai Joey

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Japanese culture places a great deal of importance on the collective group versus individual concerns or needs, unlike in many Western countries. On the positive side, this tends to lead to a highly organized and orderly society; on the negative side, it can at times lead to social repression.

Japan is also a relatively wealthy and "equal" society, with a highly developed infrastracture and a lack of a huge gap between rich and poor. Japan is also relatively homogeneous, without large ethnic groups which have traditionally been oppressed, disadvantaged or discriminated against (the ethnic Korean community in Japan has faced discrimination, but their numbers are relatively small and hence not readily noticed in the wider Japanese society).

All of these factors combined (plus long experience dealing with natural disasters such as earthquakes, live volcanoes, and typhoons) lead to few cases of looting during natural disasters.

Clearly, none of these conditions apply to Louisiana or Haiti.
 

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Japanese culture places a great deal of importance on the collective group versus individual concerns or needs, unlike in many Western countries. On the positive side, this tends to lead to a highly organized and orderly society; on the negative side, it can at times lead to social repression.

Japan is also a relatively wealthy and "equal" society, with a highly developed infrastracture and a lack of a huge gap between rich and poor. Japan is also relatively homogeneous, without large ethnic groups which have traditionally been oppressed, disadvantaged or discriminated against (the ethnic Korean community in Japan has faced discrimination, but their numbers are relatively small and hence not readily noticed in the wider Japanese society).

All of these factors combined (plus long experience dealing with natural disasters such as earthquakes, live volcanoes, and typhoons) lead to few cases of looting during natural disasters.

Clearly, none of these conditions apply to Louisiana or Haiti.
Last I heard, Haiti was relatively homogenious.

New Zealand also faced odd Earthquakes. I dont recall hearing any news similar to Haiti and Katrina with looting, murder, rape, etc.

Chile Also had a quake recently. In no way was the human savagery comparable to Haiti.

James Kirk is correct. Some groups of people are just more industrious.

The point about homogeneity can be used as a con of multi-ethnic states, which all over the world seem to be in constant turmoil.
 

Mervyn

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Before we start comparing cultures to determine why Japan has done much better compared to Haiti there is something that needs to be pointed out.

Haiti hasn't had that many earthquakes over the years compared to Japan, who averages around 1500 , per YEAR.

I think it only natural for people living in Japan to be better prepared.
 

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Don't recall looting and murders are happening right now after the earthquake. The locals usually blame the Mainland Mandarin Speaking Chinese illegals for all the criminal activities during the peacetime.

Even the Yakuza blame the same group when the latter organized crimes encroach their turfs.

Speaking of Yakuza, not going to be shocked the Yakuza are going to administer and organize aid to the victims faster and more efficient like in Kobe 1995 before the governments and the bureaucrats pick up the speed. :rolleyes:
 

Samurai Joey

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Last I heard, Haiti was relatively homogenious.

New Zealand also faced odd Earthquakes. I dont recall hearing any news similar to Haiti and Katrina with looting, murder, rape, etc.

Chile Also had a quake recently. In no way was the human savagery comparable to Haiti.

James Kirk is correct. Some groups of people are just more industrious.

The point about homogeneity can be used as a con of multi-ethnic states, which all over the world seem to be in constant turmoil.
As another TERB member has already pointed out, the Japanese people have been beset with earthquakes for centuries, so it is only natural that they would be better prepared to cope with earthquakes (certainly better than Haiti, where earthquakes are relatively infrequent).

Furthermore, Haiti is not as homogeneous as you might think. Haiti is not only a desperately impoverished country, but a highly unequal society as well, with much of what little wealth the country has being concentrated in a small elite population, many of whom are of Creole descent (i.e. of mixed French and African descent), with a history of political instability -- all in contrast to Japan, New Zealand or even Chile for that matter (at least Chile in recent years, since the end of the Pinochet dictatorship).
 
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Mencken

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Looting would be extremely unlikely in Japan. That's because it is not a christian nation. The more christian a place is, the more that looting is probable after a natural disaster.
 

5hummer

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Looting would be extremely unlikely in Japan. That's because it is not a christian nation. The more christian a place is, the more that looting is probable after a natural disaster.
I like this statement!
 
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