Any MP or SP recommendations for San Francisco (near Fremont) area?

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Does anyone have an incall or outcall MP or SP recommendation in the Fremont (San Francisco) area? Any ad directory that would help?
 

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Does anyone have an incall or outcall MP or SP recommendation in the Fremont (San Francisco) area? Any ad directory that would help?
Most locals would use either Privatedelights.ch for independents (still need to do your research on any entry for bait and switch). Note that the reviews provided for each on only has resp;onses that they like. They can delete bad reviews. Note also you're paying probably min 300 / hh and 400-600 for an hour.. Note some parts of the Bay area, have the most beautiful / expensive models looking women. They are probably 400/hh to 500 and above for an hour. They also list restrictions. But it is quite possible that they are the real deal. They are mostly travelling from one city to another even in the bay area, so you'll want in your text to them, after some initial (please let me know some details.) After that you'll get a response with more specifics. Since you wont' already have any posted reviews, that are confirmed by the provider you might for their security, be asked to provide some references and possibly a deposit. I don't recommend providing a deposit, but up to you. They also list restrictions, so you can search for providers that don't have any restrictions you care about.

The other option is a massage place (lots and lots of them). They are more objectively reviewed for the ladies working there and the reviews are by area, so you just go to California / North Bay / then where ever you want to search within several areas reviewed there. They are usually quite open about their menu, but you have to set your common agreements. Many don't speak any english, except for specific terms that might come into play for what you want. You typically enter a first door, from the street, into a small waiting area. I woman will open an inner door after a short time, and if she's wearing a sexier than a nurse type outfit, you know you're in the right place. She'll likely grab your hand and pull you in and ask for how long you want. It is also completely allowed to ask who is there today and available. The site that reviews these places is scale ampreviews.net Much more affordable. Typical 30/45/60 min visit $50-70 house fee, and then anywhere from 140-170 as a 'tip' to the person giving the massage. All ladies have their own menu, and the age is going to be mid 30's to late 40's. You'll also likely get an actually good massage out of it too. That is usually the first half of your visit, and then when they ask you to turn over, that's when there will be a little negotiation. Also possible to have that discussion from the beginning.

Don't suggest you answer or use the ads that say 120 or 140 /hh and 160 or 180 for hour. Those are quite rushed and certainly not, repeat, not the person from the advert.
Have fun, but frankly your options and value are significantly better in Toronto or Ottawa etc.

I forgot to mention that there are also a number of Korean organizations that have very pretty women, and are typically about 300 for an hour, with very few restrictions except greek. They are also what you typically would consider as FULL service. Look these ladies / organization up on TER (theeroticreview.com). It's a pay review site, unless you have lots of reviews on it. You can read a little summary review without the details and get a good sense of what to expect. I'd say the best with the prettiest and most fun providers is LSC.com YOu have to provide lots of identification to help them ensure that you're not law enforcement. Many people wouldn't like to provide so much personal ID info, but haven't heard of any time anything was leaked, so your choice. Most of these places are in the San Jose area, or emeryville. The photos are 'close', but not usually actual. But pretty close. Those experiences are amazing, as they try to be very GFE / PSE plus.
 
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If you want to do something touristy, although it will be South Bay and you might have to Bart it part of the way, there is a provider named Jade who has over 500 TER reviews and is simply something of a legend in terms of looks and services. Maybe you aren’t the tourist type who wants to see the Golden Gate Bridge, Alcatraz, sea lions at the Pier, eat Chinese food, fuck Jade, etc. But if you are, go ahead and put her on your list to cross off.



In general, the ladies with caraangels good reviews.



If you want to browse and try to find something closer to the Fremont area, browsing through ECCIE reviews is your best bet. It isn’t quite the level of TER, but TER requires a paid subscription.


It has been a good while since I have been to San Francisco. I just never liked it quite as well as Los Angeles or San Diego. My last trip there, an independent escort stood me up and I went on an adventure to one place whose address I had written down from a lower-end website. I don’t think the place or the website exists now. It was a lot like what Cmagic1 described. I liked the Taiwanese lady I saw, even though she wasn’t as GFE as I would have liked. The funny thing was that in the line-up another Asian lady gave me a death stare. I didn’t pick her, obviously. After I got out of an admittedly long, luxurious shower after the session I heard a loud knocking on the door and it was the Asian lady with the death stare. She said Your Time Up and behind her was her customer (place was high volume), who was the size of a mountain. Hope she liked him better than me. Maybe I reminded her of someone she hated?
 
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Most locals would use either Privatedelights.ch for independents (still need to do your research on any entry for bait and switch). Note that the reviews provided for each on only has resp;onses that they like. They can delete bad reviews. Note also you're paying probably min 300 / hh and 400-600 for an hour.. Note some parts of the Bay area, have the most beautiful / expensive models looking women. They are probably 400/hh to 500 and above for an hour. They also list restrictions. But it is quite possible that they are the real deal. They are mostly travelling from one city to another even in the bay area, so you'll want in your text to them, after some initial (please let me know some details.) After that you'll get a response with more specifics. Since you wont' already have any posted reviews, that are confirmed by the provider you might for their security, be asked to provide some references and possibly a deposit. I don't recommend providing a deposit, but up to you. They also list restrictions, so you can search for providers that don't have any restrictions you care about.

The other option is a massage place (lots and lots of them). They are more objectively reviewed for the ladies working there and the reviews are by area, so you just go to California / North Bay / then where ever you want to search within several areas reviewed there. They are usually quite open about their menu, but you have to set your common agreements. Many don't speak any english, except for specific terms that might come into play for what you want. You typically enter a first door, from the street, into a small waiting area. I woman will open an inner door after a short time, and if she's wearing a sexier than a nurse type outfit, you know you're in the right place. She'll likely grab your hand and pull you in and ask for how long you want. It is also completely allowed to ask who is there today and available. The site that reviews these places is scale ampreviews.net Much more affordable. Typical 30/45/60 min visit $50-70 house fee, and then anywhere from 140-170 as a 'tip' to the person giving the massage. All ladies have their own menu, and the age is going to be mid 30's to late 40's. You'll also likely get an actually good massage out of it too. That is usually the first half of your visit, and then when they ask you to turn over, that's when there will be a little negotiation. Also possible to have that discussion from the beginning.

Don't suggest you answer or use the ads that say 120 or 140 /hh and 160 or 180 for hour. Those are quite rushed and certainly not, repeat, not the person from the advert.
Have fun, but frankly your options and value are significantly better in Toronto or Ottawa etc.

I forgot to mention that there are also a number of Korean organizations that have very pretty women, and are typically about 300 for an hour, with very few restrictions except greek. They are also what you typically would consider as FULL service. Look these ladies / organization up on TER (theeroticreview.com). It's a pay review site, unless you have lots of reviews on it. You can read a little summary review without the details and get a good sense of what to expect. I'd say the best with the prettiest and most fun providers is LSC.com YOu have to provide lots of identification to help them ensure that you're not law enforcement. Many people wouldn't like to provide so much personal ID info, but haven't heard of any time anything was leaked, so your choice. Most of these places are in the San Jose area, or emeryville. The photos are 'close', but not usually actual. But pretty close. Those experiences are amazing, as they try to be very GFE / PSE plus.
Thank you for all the great tips. I figured the options and prices would be much different than hobbying in Toronto. With so many Asians and Asian restaurants in the neighbourhood I'm staying in, I figured there must be some options, even underground and more discreetly run. Good to know massage parlors are recommended, which I actually prefer as I can get some massage in also.
 

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If you want to do something touristy, although it will be South Bay and you might have to Bart it part of the way, there is a provider named Jade who has over 500 TER reviews and is simply something of a legend in terms of looks and services. Maybe you aren’t the tourist type who wants to see the Golden Gate Bridge, Alcatraz, sea lions at the Pier, eat Chinese food, fuck Jade, etc. But if you are, go ahead and put her on your list to cross off.



In general, the ladies with caraangels good reviews.



If you want to browse and try to find something closer to the Fremont area, browsing through ECCIE reviews is your best bet. It isn’t quite the level of TER, but TER requires a paid subscription.


It has been a good while since I have been to San Francisco. I just never liked it quite as well as Los Angeles or San Diego. My last trip there, an independent escort stood me up and I went on an adventure to one place whose address I had written down from a lower-end website. I don’t think the place or the website exists now. It was a lot like what Cmagic1 described. I liked the Taiwanese lady I saw, even though she wasn’t as GFE as I would have liked. The funny thing was that in the line-up another Asian lady gave me a death stare. I didn’t pick her, obviously. After I got out of an admittedly long, luxurious shower after the session I heard a loud knocking on the door and it was the Asian lady with the death stare. She said Your Time Up and behind her was her customer (place was high volume), who was the size of a mountain. Hope she liked him better than me. Maybe I reminded her of someone she hated?
Thanks, I will do some sightseeing in SF and will look up these options. I find independents a hit and miss, and riskier also compared to MPs. Happy to know there are many options for MPs. I keep hearing about crack downs and how lobbying is stricter in US compared to Canada.
 
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Thanks, I will do some sightseeing in SF and will look up these options. I find independents a hit and miss, and riskier also compared to MPs. Happy to know there are many options for MPs. I keep hearing about crack downs and how lobbying is stricter in US compared to Canada.
For what it is worth, the Bay Area is still one of the safest areas to do this activity in as far as law enforcement is concerned.

That has always been the case, but it isn’t as out in the open as it was in SF in the 1980s and 1990s. San Francisco then had a simple and known policy of not making arrests involving consensual adult sex, including indoor prostitution and BDSM clubs. Surprisingly you can thank Diane Feinstein when she was part of the SF “management” for that, who felt (correctly) that previous prostitution arrests had fallen almost entirely on female sex workers. A lot of Montreal ladies toured San Francisco back then, incidentally. It admittedly got a bit out of hand. There was a massage parlor near the Hilton hotel that everyone just called the Hilton Massage Parlor. The girls sat in the lobby in bras and really cute brightly colored panties (this was before thongs became a thing). Not sure how well the Hilton Corporation liked the name.

I went to one back then where the girls were more fully clothed and I saw a policeman in uniform at the facility. I was freaked out and asked. Turns out one of the girl’s apartment was broken into and he was taking the report. Crime in SF was a thing back then, and it still is. The girl I saw, an Asian, was a total bitch, by the way. I never found the reality of SF quite as good as the hype, but I have been there like four times, so it could be bad luck. I did see a lady I absolutely loved in Oakland, but she got married and left the business. One thing I will never forget. She had a really nice BDSM room at her rented house and she told me her mom helped her design it and put things up. My mouth flew open. I hope that didn’t hurt her feelings. Gotta love Cali and its liberals.

The other time in this life my mouth flew open was with a BDSM submissive at a Los Angeles commercial dungeon. The girl I sessioned with was a stunner. Maybe the best looking girl I have ever been naked with. Unfortunately other than spanking she didn’t allow anything sexual other than nicely putting her head on my chest at then end where the customer is allowed to do a hand release and say, it is going to be fun to watch it squirt out. I know, pretty lame. I of course asked her about escorting, and she said no, this is as far as she wanted to go right now (she was young, like 18-21). I asked her how she got into the scene, and she said her mom was a submissive and it looked fun. I didn’t pry further, but did her mom get spanked while she was at home growing up? All I could think of was a potential early Beverly Hills 90210 episode where Brenda who has just moved there from Minnesota tells her new friend Jenny that she can’t miss curfew or her mom might spank her. Jenny would look on bewildered and say, you get spanked and not your mom? It is the opposite here in California.

Anyway, back to the point. Motherfucking 20/20 and Hugh Downs did a segment on how prostitution was de facto legal in San Francisco. Neither the federal government nor Sacramento liked the publicity one bit. Starting in the late 1990s until today, pressure got put on everyone involved to make it all less public. Didn’t involve arrests of customers, but there were the occasional federal trafficking charges against owners and plenty of threats of similar charges for property owners on the theory that they knew what was happening.

So now the scene is more hidden, and many independents and agencies require screening like other parts of the U.S. As Cmagic1 mentioned, you can probably wander around and find a massage place, and after feeling her up during the massage, do the tried and true negotiation for much more than a massage. But I don’t think it would be a bad idea to get a month subscription to Rubmaps and read the massage reviews on ECCIE to get a better lay of the land when it comes to massage parlors in the part of San Francisco you are interested in. As I said, I am a review-oriented guy, so I would just give any necessary screening information and see the well-proven Jade in the San Jose area. But I have less sense of adventure than many guys. Please let us know how it turns out.
 
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For what it is worth, the Bay Area is still one of the safest areas to do this activity in as far as law enforcement is concerned.

That has always been the case, but it isn’t as out in the open as it was in SF in the 1980s and 1990s. San Francisco then had a simple and known policy of not making arrests involving consensual adult sex, including indoor prostitution and BDSM clubs. Surprisingly you can thank Diane Feinstein when she was part of the SF “management” for that, who felt (correctly) that previous prostitution arrests had fallen almost entirely on female sex workers. A lot of Montreal ladies toured San Francisco back then, incidentally. It admittedly got a bit out of hand. There was a massage parlor near the Hilton hotel that everyone just called the Hilton Massage Parlor. The girls sat in the lobby in bras and really cute brightly colored panties (this was before thongs became a thing). Not sure how well the Hilton Corporation liked the name.

I went to one back then where the girls were more fully clothed and I saw a policeman in uniform at the facility. I was freaked out and asked. Turns out one of the girl’s apartment was broken into and he was taking the report. Crime in SF was a thing back then, and it still is. The girl I saw, an Asian, was a total bitch, by the way. I never found the reality of SF quite as good as the hype, but I have been there like four times, so it could be bad luck. I did see a lady I absolutely loved in Oakland, but she got married and left the business. One thing I will never forget. She had a really nice BDSM room at her rented house and she told me her mom helped her design it and put things up. My mouth flew open. I hope that didn’t hurt her feelings. Gotta love Cali and its liberals.

The other time in this life my mouth flew open was with a BDSM submissive at a Los Angeles commercial dungeon. The girl I sessioned with was a stunner. Maybe the best looking girl I have ever been naked with. Unfortunately other than spanking she didn’t allow anything sexual other than nicely putting her head on my chest at then end where the customer is allowed to do a hand release and say, it is going to be fun to watch it squirt out. I know, pretty lame. I of course asked her about escorting, and she said no, this is as far as she wanted to go right now (she was young, like 18-21). I asked her how she got into the scene, and she said her mom was a submissive and it looked fun. I didn’t pry further, but did her mom get spanked while she was at home growing up? All I could think of was a potential early Beverly Hills 90210 episode where Brenda who has just moved there from Minnesota tells her new friend Jenny that she can’t miss curfew or her mom might spank her. Jenny would look on bewildered and say, you get spanked and not your mom? It is the opposite here in California.

Anyway, back to the point. Motherfucking 20/20 and Hugh Downs did a segment on how prostitution was de facto legal in San Francisco. Neither the federal government nor Sacramento liked the publicity one bit. Starting in the late 1990s until today, pressure got put on everyone involved to make it all less public. Didn’t involve arrests of customers, but there were the occasional federal trafficking charges against owners and plenty of threats of similar charges for property owners on the theory that they knew what was happening.

So now the scene is more hidden, and many independents and agencies require screening like other parts of the U.S. As Cmagic1 mentioned, you can probably wander around and find a massage place, and after feeling her up during the massage, do the tried and true negotiation for much more than a massage. But I don’t think it would be a bad idea to get a month subscription to Rubmaps and read the massage reviews on ECCIE to get a better lay of the land when it comes to massage parlors in the part of San Francisco you are interested in. As I said, I am a review-oriented guy, so I would just give any necessary screening information and see the well-proven Jade in the San Jose area. But I have less sense of adventure than many guys. Please let us know how it turns out.
Good additional information. My only comment would be that rubmaps is good for finding on the map for various areas around the bay, places that have lots of current reviews. Note I said numbers, not content. Unfortunately as per others on that site, and ampreviews.net, it seems that negative reviews are removed. So you can find either for free at the summary level on ampreviews.net or paid, and see actual reviews. I don't use ECCIE, but hear it's also good. His explanation of how to do the transaction is correct, you can also if you know from reviews, or the attendants outfit, if Its a full service area, to instead of providing the room fee first, get comfortable with who is going to be your MA (by asking to see who's avail), and then just put down on the massage table $200 (includes the room fee, and their 'tip') or whatever you feel appropriate for a full session. They'll either just accept that, or in some cases ask for a bit more. Some people want a much 'lighter' experience, so you might put down less for that. As he also said, you can just start with a massage, and she'll probably reach over your head to do some of the massage technique and brush her chest on your head. You can lightly brush her during same, and you'll have a pretty immediate sense of whether you're on the same page.
 
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