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Ancient humans, dubbed 'Denisovans', interbred with us

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Ancient humans, dubbed 'Denisovans', interbred with us
By Pallab Ghosh

AdvertisementProfessor Chris Stringer: "It's nothing short of sensational - we didn't know how ancient people in China related to these other humans"

Scientists say an entirely separate type of human identified from bones in Siberia co-existed and interbred with our own species.

The ancient humans have been dubbed Denisovans after the caves in Siberia where their remains were found.

There is also evidence that this group was widespread in Eurasia.

A study in Nature journal shows that Denisovans co-existed with Neanderthals and interbred with our species - perhaps around 50,000 years ago.

An international group of researchers sequenced a complete genome from one of the ancient hominins (human-like creatures), based on nuclear DNA extracted from a finger bone.

'Sensational' find

According to the researchers, this provides confirmation there were at least four distinct types of human in existence when anatomically modern humans (Homo sapiens sapiens) first left their African homeland.


DNA from a tooth (pictured) and a finger bone show the Denisovans were a distinct group Along with modern humans, scientists knew about the Neanderthals and a dwarf human species found on the Indonesian island of Flores nicknamed The Hobbit. To this list, experts must now add the Denisovans.

The implications of the finding have been described by Professor Chris Stringer of the Natural History Museum in London as "nothing short of sensational".

Scientists were able to analyse DNA from a tooth and from a finger bone excavated in the Denisova cave in southern Siberia. The individuals belonged to a genetically distinct group of humans that were distantly related to Neanderthals but even more distantly related to us.

The finding adds weight to the theory that a different kind of human could have existed in Eurasia at the same time as our species.

Researchers have had enigmatic fossil evidence to support this view but now they have some firm evidence from the genetic study carried out by Professor Svante Paabo of the Max Planck Institute in Leipzig, Germany.

"A species of early human living in Europe evolved," according to Professor Paabo.

"There was a western form that was the Neanderthal and an eastern form, the Denisovans."

The study shows that Denisovans interbred with the ancestors of the present day people of the Melanesian region north and north-east of Australia. Melanesian DNA comprises between 4% and 6% Denisovan DNA.

David Reich from the Harvard Medical School, who worked with Svante Paabo on the study, says that the fact that Denisovan genes ended up so far south suggests they were widespread across Eurasia: "These populations must have been spread across thousands and thousands of miles," he told BBC News.

One mystery is why the Denisovan genes are unique in modern Melanesians and are not found in other Eurasian groups that have so far been sampled.

'Fleeting encounter'

Professor Stringer believes it is because there may have been only a fleeting encounter as modern humans migrated through South-East Asia and then on to Melanesia.


The remains were excavated at a cave site in southern Siberia "It could be just 50 Denisovans interbreeding with a thousand modern humans. That would be enough to produce this 5% of those archaic genes being transferred," he said.

"So the impact is there but the number of interbreeding events might have been quite small and quite rare."

No one knows when or how these humans disappeared but, according to Professor Paabo, it is very likely something to do with modern people because all the "archaic" humans, like Denisovans and Neanderthals disappeared sometime after Homo sapiens sapiens appeared on the scene.

"It is fascinating to see direct evidence that these archaic species did exist (alongside us) and it's only for the last few tens of thousands of years that is unique in our history that we are alone on this planet and we have no close relatives with us anymore," he said.

The study follows a paper published earlier this year by Professor Paabo and colleagues that showed there was interbreeding between modern humans and Neanderthals as they emerged from Africa 60,000 years ago.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12059564
 

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Tell me something I don't know ... :)

Guess, the bible thumpers are going to have a field day on this too!
 

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So all this BS that I used to hear that there is no missing link from ape to man was BS, huh.

So they are saying now up till 15,000-20,000 years ago, there was different breeds of humans around, hmm. How old are those Egyptian pyramids/ could had different breeds of super strong humans had a hand building them? That seems a bit more poss, than space aliens helping out--like some believe.
 

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No one knows when or how these humans disappeared but, according to Professor Paabo, it is very likely something to do with modern people because all the "archaic" humans, like Denisovans and Neanderthals disappeared sometime after Homo sapiens sapiens appeared on the scene.
Based on how modern humans usually deal with such situations, I'm guessing we whacked them.
 

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I wonder how well preserved was the DNA material found in the bone fragment...


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Anatomy and lineage

Little is known of the anatomical features of the individual in question since the only physical remains discovered thus far are the finger bone from which only mitochondrial genetic material was gathered. The Siberian bone's mtDNA differs from that of modern humans by 385 bases (nucleotides) in the mtDNA strand out of approximately 16,500, whereas the difference between modern humans and Neanderthals is around 202 bases. In contrast, the difference between chimpanzees and modern humans is approximately 1,462 mtDNA base pairs. Analysis of the specimen's nuclear DNA shows it to be a branch of the Neanderthal lineage.[4][1][5] Even though the Denisova hominin's mtDNA lineage predates the divergence of modern humans and Neanderthals, coalescent theory does not preclude a more recent divergence date for her nuclear DNA.
 

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Based on how modern humans usually deal with such situations, I'm guessing we whacked them.

Yep don't you know it. Surpirising we still have different races.
 

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How old are those Egyptian pyramids/ could had different breeds of super strong humans had a hand building them? That seems a bit more poss, than space aliens helping out--like some believe.
Only about 3000 - 5000 years old I think.
 

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According to the researchers, this provides confirmation there were at least four distinct types of human in existence when anatomically modern humans (Homo sapiens sapiens) first left their African homeland.


DNA from a tooth (pictured) and a finger bone show the Denisovans were a distinct group Along with modern humans, scientists knew about the Neanderthals and a dwarf human species found on the Indonesian island of Flores nicknamed The Hobbit. To this list, experts must now add the Denisovans.
The Hobbit is controversial

Because other animals on the island were miniature it is thought that they may have evolved down from normal size because of evolutionary pressure and were originally homo sapiens
 

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Yeah, midgets are still around and are not a different breed of humans. There might had been a generic defect that made them small. Hard to tell when only old bones are left.

In some ways maybe its good no other breeds of humans are around. We have enough problems with hating others who are a bit different. Could you imagine how it be if everybody was not the same--how slavery ended, people got to understand only the skin color was different.
 

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Only about 3000 - 5000 years old I think.
Yeah that is what I seen also, if true--the age of the pyramids--they were build by us humans around today. Something how they could had did it back then. Today it would cost a billion dollars to build and take heavy machinery
 

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You guys seeing that series called Ancient Aliens (History Channel)?

It's fun, lots of crazy theories.
 

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You guys seeing that series called Ancient Aliens (History Channel)?

It's fun, lots of crazy theories.
I stop watching tv pretty much expect for sports but I have heard the theories aliens bread with humans and that is why we are so different...or did they fuck the apes and were able to breed with them--and humans were the results...I don't think so but what if?
 

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I stop watching tv pretty much expect for sports but I have heard the theories aliens bread with humans and that is why we are so different...or did they fuck the apes and were able to breed with them--and humans were the results...I don't think so but what if?
Getting to where we are was a very long, slow, slog through the mud of evolution. Unimaginably slow. The only thing that happens fast in evolution is extinction.
 

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Getting to where we are was a very long, slow, slog through the mud of evolution. Unimaginably slow. The only thing that happens fast in evolution is extinction.
Yes, it was, but speech and technology came pretty fast the last thousand of years, compared to evolution.
 
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