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Ross Eyerie

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I'm sure there are others with a grudge against this airline... LOL...

So like whats with their refund policies? They withhold an amount of $100-$200 if you require a refund? I know they gotta fill planes... but I'm sure there's someone else standing by to take the seat. Or $50-$100 fees to change a flight. Seems like these airlines nickel and dime consumers and consumers are stuck with a faceless corporation.

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ig-88

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You can buy the higher airfare and avoid these fees, if you think you're going to change.

You can take a chance with the lower airfare, which involves no refund at all and change fees.
 

WhaWhaWha

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Between a rock and a hard place
If not for government bailouts, the competition would have smoked them by now.
 

oral.com

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Go Porter!
 

papasmerf

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poonhunter said:
No complaints , met a nice female flight attendant from my last trip who turned out to be a very nice spinner
What was his name? :eek:
 

BoringBob

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Air Canada is a company with some very serious problems. In fact, looking at Air Canada and looking at companies like Chrysler or GM, you see the exact same main problem:

Aging and expensive workforce, militantly unionized and absolutely arrogant from A to Z.

A barely in the market product, over priced, and packed full of "gotchas" at every turn.

Their version of competing is to lower the price by stripping out the essentials from the product, rather than working on the fundamentals of the business.

In airlines, Air Canada and American Airlines are going down the same dangerous road, decontenting their tickets to sell them, and then shocking people will stupid extra fees (American has the guts to charge for the FIRST checked bag, while Air Canada has the guts to charge for an onboard snack). Not to mention Air Canada's nasty crap about advertising a low ticket price, and then slapping an insane "fuel surchage" on when you try to book it. That should be illegal. I recent checked an asian trip that have almost $200 of fuel surcharges on a $800 ticket - adding 25% to the total costs.

Air Canada sucks, plain and simple, end to end, without restriction.
 

Ol' Sodomy Sam

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While I may share some people's views re entitled, overpaid union layabouts, the fact remains that Air Canada has a competitively priced service. You can almost always find a better price than Westjet to any given domestic location, and with more flight choices, if you put some effort into it.

As for the fuel surcharge, if you don't like it, fly with someone else. Take a look at travelocity for a flight from Toronto to Shanghai in July. Seventeen airlines will be happy to take you there, including the cheapest, Air Canada, fuel surcharges and all. Questionable advertising practice, perhaps, but all the airlines do it.

Every airline has to pay for fuel, they all have to pay if they provide you a meal. I'd like to be able to pay a little bit less and choose whether or not I'd like to eat on the plane. For seven bucks, and something like five if you pay for it ahead of time, you get a roast beef sandwich and chips. No more expensive than in the airport, certainly.

Charges for changing your flight? OK, Westjet charges $25 less for a comparably priced fare if you have to change it. Or, pick Air Canada, and choose to save $5 more per flight and get no changes, or cancellations. I got stuck on this once, I had to write off a trip to Washington, but really, when the flight costs $150 each way and the change fee is $75 plus the new fare difference, I'll roll the dice every time.

Don't get me wrong, I've had my baggage lost, flights cancelled, and what have you on Air Canada just like on many others. In fact, I was on a flight from Winnipeg to Ottawa through Toronto that was delayed on the ground in Winnipeg for a thunderstorm. Because the flight I was on was scheduled to arrive late, they gave my seat on the flight to Ottawa away to someone else already in Toronto. Thing was that it was the same plane I was on that continued on to Ottawa. So, I explained that there was no way I could be late for the plane, seeing as I was on it (I even had the same seat number assigned to me), but they gave my seat to some lying Toronto scum who said they just had to be on that flight to Ottawa at 10:30 at night. What the hell can you do in Ottawa at 10:30 at night anyway? I got my $200 for being bumped, though, and I'll take that any day.

You get what you pay for. I buy the cheapest tickets I can get, and I'm 95% satisfied with Air Canada. I guess you could have a kinder, gentler airline which sold tickets at twice the price of others and had better service, a glass of wine, a curtain you could draw isolating you from the x-CFL player sitting beside you. A few business types would go for it, but in the long run? Try finding a full service gas station, for an extra 2-3 cents per litre on gas that costs $1.00/ litre already. It's all about price.
 

danmand

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Once, when I arrived at Pearson for my flight to Europe, I was cheerfully
informed that Air Canada had changed my reservation to the day before.

They had not cared to inform me.
 

qwertyuio

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danmand said:
Once, when I arrived at Pearson for my flight to Europe, I was cheerfully
informed that Air Canada had changed my reservation to the day before.

They had not cared to inform me.
Well don't leave us hanging. Then what happened?
 

danmand

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qwertyuio said:
Well don't leave us hanging. Then what happened?
I said to the (older women) ticket agent: "This is unusual, I have never
experienced that before". She answered: "Oh, it happens all the time these days.
I had two already today". Thereafter she got me on a different flight through
frankfurt, so I actually only lost about 4 hours in Europe, and as I was going on
a holiday, I missed no meetings.
 

Ross Eyerie

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Well one could possibly pay the higher airfare and not worry about changes/cancellations... but when you're faced with a cheaper option... it's hard to decide sometimes... they should make it one price... one service policy... right across the board... less confusion if you ask me...
 
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tersey

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I would rather fly to Buffalo then board a plane from " Air Canada ".
Why would you fly to Buffalo to take an Air Canada flight? :confused:
 

Moraff

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Ross Eyerie said:
Well one could possibly pay the higher airfare and not worry about changes/cancellations... but when you're faced with a cheaper option... it's hard to decide sometimes... they should make it one price... one service policy... right across the board... less confusion if you ask me...
Why? I'd rather have a cheaper option when I'm pretty sure that I'm not going to need to cancel/change my flight (which in all my flying I've never had to do) than pay for an option I don't want/need.

Really don't see how it's all that confusing.....
 

Questor

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Ol' Sodomy Sam said:
In fact, I was on a flight from Winnipeg to Ottawa through Toronto that was delayed on the ground in Winnipeg for a thunderstorm. Because the flight I was on was scheduled to arrive late, they gave my seat on the flight to Ottawa away to someone else already in Toronto. Thing was that it was the same plane I was on that continued on to Ottawa. So, I explained that there was no way I could be late for the plane, seeing as I was on it (I even had the same seat number assigned to me), but they gave my seat to some lying Toronto scum who said they just had to be on that flight to Ottawa at 10:30 at night. What the hell can you do in Ottawa at 10:30 at night anyway? I got my $200 for being bumped, though, and I'll take that any day.
LOL Good story about getting bumped. "I'm sorry sir, but you were not at the checkin the required 60 minutes before scheduled departure time." I hope that was $200 plus hotel and meals because depending on your overnight options, you probably won't come up on top financially if you had to spend the night in a hotel in Toronto (unless you booked with the blue guy here on terb).

But you didn't realize that people here on terb just like to take shots at Air Canada because it used to be a crown corporation? The other points you make don't matter in the terb universe.
 

BoringBob

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rubmeister100 said:
The funny thing about a fuel surcharge is that if you multiply it by the seats on the plane it comes out to the amount of fuel it costs to run that flight.

So it 's not like they are putting a surcharge on for higher fuel costs, it is actually the cost of the fuel they are charging for!

Really deceptive business practices in so many industries but what can you do when the lobbies are so strong. Look at the recent "get tough" measures on credit cards.

Yawn...

Exactly my point. The fuel surcharge is just a very, very sneaky way for Air Canada to promote cheap fares in their ads, because the fares don't include the very basics, such as checked bags or fuel for the plane. It should be illegal, something I intend to bring up with my MP next time I run into them (their office is about 2 blocks from me).

Air Canada is borderline B&S at this point. It's ugly.
 

alexmst

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While I enjoy flying on Air Canada most of the time, the fuel surcharge is really annoying. I'd rather they just went back to quoting the full fare, everything in.

At least the give free checked bags - a lot of U.S. airlines don't even do that anymore.
 
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