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hilroy

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Ok I'm a little new to the whole points cards Visa always had a credit card but rarely ever used it. Recently decided to switch to a points card and make all my purchases on it and pay it off every month instead of using debit etc.

So here's my question can a store/company that accepts Visa refuse to accept it on a larger purchase ? IMO you either accept cards or you don't. This was a larger purchase just over 9K now I realize the store gets hit with a 3% kickback so of course it hurts there bottom line so they are not overly receptive to it. But like I said you either accept something or you don't.

Just a pure curiosity question on people's thoughts
 

rgkv

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I use my air miles mastercard all the time instead of debit, come home and transfer the money to pay the card, great way to earn air miles. last month alone I collected 500 air miles. Never heard of a limit though... can understand I guess if the company , on a big purchase anyways, has already discounted the price to get the big sale, must now give whatever percentage it is to the credit card supplier.
 

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Ok I'm a little new to the whole points cards Visa always had a credit card but rarely ever used it. Recently decided to switch to a points card and make all my purchases on it and pay it off every month instead of using debit etc.

So here's my question can a store/company that accepts Visa refuse to accept it on a larger purchase ? IMO you either accept cards or you don't. This was a larger purchase just over 9K now I realize the store gets hit with a 3% kickback so of course it hurts there bottom line so they are not overly receptive to it. But like I said you either accept something or you don't.

Just a pure curiosity question on people's thoughts
I've asked to use my card at the car dealership for every vehicle I've bought in the past 10 years. None of the dealerships will accept cc payment - for the reason you mention above.
 

shrek71

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I've asked to use my card at the car dealership for every vehicle I've bought in the past 10 years. None of the dealerships will accept cc payment - for the reason you mention above.
Most people don't have credit limits high enough to purchase a vehicle. Do remember dealerships make very little on the sale of the car. It is all the extras where the profits are: extended warranty, undercoating, glass etching, financing, service, administration charges, etc.

Cheers
 

thecuriousgeorge

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Out being curious
Not sure about the limit on big purchases...

As for car dealerships they are supposed to allow a percentage of the purchase price for a vehicle to be put on a card...they do not negotiate price though...i was only allowed to put $30K on my card when i bought my car
 

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They have the right to refuse because they are responsible for the transaction by way of a charge back.
So apart from the dent it may put on their margin, they are also concerned about a whopper of a charge back.

I was reading about a Canadian start up company that universities and even the CRA are using where by you can use your credit card with these vendors but YOU pay the processing fee.
When you do the math and depending on your rewards program, the points can out weigh the processing costs.
 

Occasionally

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Businesses have a right to decline credit card purchases even if they accept them. It's just rare a business will stop someone. But you do see signs sometimes saying if you want to use a credit card you need to buy $10 or $20.

Businesses get charged a fee from MC or Visa. I think the general estimate is 3%, so it's a direct hit to their bottom line.

Points cards typically pay you back about 1-2% worth of your purchases in the form of store points or dividend pay back. I prefer my boring credit card that is no annual fee and pays me back 1% on all purchases, with some things like food and gas at 3%. I get a $50 cheque in the mail about 3 times a year. I'd rather have that then be forced to use it a store.

I wouldn't worry about stores getting dinged 3%. It's business. They make plenty of margin on products they sell. And credit cards make it easy for people to buy stuff as opposed to keeping a mound of cash in their wallet. Also, most people carry credit cards tied to a store, so a person will be spending that money back there soon. Repeat business.

If possible, always use a credit card as even basic ones give you consumer protection. And you don't have to pay it for a month. It also helps build your credit rating. As long as you have control over your spending and don't go wild buying stuff you can't pay off, always go credit card. Debit is for suckers unless someone totally and completely can't control their spending and has to pay off stuff as they go.

I've done my share of calling them to fight a charge. And I''ve won each time. They did the fighting for me and next thing you know that charge is reversed on my invoice. They don't even contact me telling me they won it for me. It just showed up as a reversal. Debit cards give zero protection as the money is immediately deducted from your bank account so have fun trying to claw back any improper charges. If it's a large store not a big deal as they'll likely give in, but if you are trying to fight debit charges from no-name places or sketchy repairman you'll be fighting it forever.

Some basic cards even give you travel insurance and extended warranty protection for free too. You just have to read up on all the benefits. No annual free cards give you less perks.

If you feel comfortable wheeling and dealing, I've done my share of paying cash instead of credit card with the business negating tax (trusted repairman I know for years). It's a risk from my part as I might get a crap product but I've never been burned. In return they save credit card fees and pocket the money.
 

shrek71

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I was reading about a Canadian start up company that universities and even the CRA are using where by you can use your credit card with these vendors but YOU pay the processing fee.
When you do the math and depending on your rewards program, the points can out weigh the processing costs.
That is against the Terms of Service for practically all credit card providers. The exception to that is the business needs to clearly show signage stating that all items are cash discounted before they can surcharge the merchant processing fees. My feeling on that, as a business owner is that it is a cost of doing business along with offering as many convenient ways for our customers to make payment.

Businesses have a right to decline credit card purchases even if they accept them. It's just rare a business will stop someone. But you do see signs sometimes saying if you want to use a credit card you need to buy $10 or $20.
Actually if you read the Terms of Service on a credit card merchant agreement, it is a violation to impose a minimum purchase before accepting a credit or debit card.

Cheers
 

Occasionally

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Actually if you read the Terms of Service on a credit card merchant agreement, it is a violation to impose a minimum purchase before accepting a credit or debit card.
Really? Wow. All those shady stores, food court places and convenience stores should comply with the terms!

Some of them even impose a fee if you buy something below their minimum. I've gotten charge 25 cents for buying under $10. Didn't have cash on me so I was forced to to buy lunch.
 

hilroy

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Actually if you read the Terms of Service on a credit card merchant agreement, it is a violation to impose a minimum purchase before accepting a credit or debit card.

Cheers
So would it not be fair to think its a violation to impose a maximum purchase as well ?
 
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