i have a quick plumbing repair to do with abs pipe. when i put the pipe into the fitting do i only cement the pipe r inside the fitting also? thanx in advance
a plumbing question
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Well, I only do the inside of the fitting, since the glue cures so fast. Of course I am not an expert, and have only done it a few times.
doinker said:
Do both ends, the glue is a solvent and melts the plastic, with just applying it to one side, the ABS pipe will be properly prepared for adhesion on one side and not the other end .
MrIncredible......Sorry to say this but your technique will only lead to problems down the road, do both ends always.
Both parts.
I'm an amateur drain guy. What I tend to do is trial fit everything by using Dishwashing soap - Joy to allow me to push the parts fully home and then be able to remove them.
I cut everything, use the Joy trick, get everything just right, then mark all the pieces with liquid paper. You need to mark both ends of the pipe. I mark 2 hash marks on one end, then one hash mark on the other. That way, you know which angle is where. (The hash marks span across pipe and fitting.)
Then I take everything apart, clean in hot water all the joy off, but leave the liquid paper marks.
Then put it together with the glue, gluing both parts, slight twist to get the angle.
I'm sure the pros would laugh at me trial fitting everything, but then again the result is a perfect fit, you never need to redo anything, etc. I've seen so called "pro" drain work that looks like shit frankly.
It takes longer, but you get the end result right.
I'm an amateur drain guy. What I tend to do is trial fit everything by using Dishwashing soap - Joy to allow me to push the parts fully home and then be able to remove them.
I cut everything, use the Joy trick, get everything just right, then mark all the pieces with liquid paper. You need to mark both ends of the pipe. I mark 2 hash marks on one end, then one hash mark on the other. That way, you know which angle is where. (The hash marks span across pipe and fitting.)
Then I take everything apart, clean in hot water all the joy off, but leave the liquid paper marks.
Then put it together with the glue, gluing both parts, slight twist to get the angle.
I'm sure the pros would laugh at me trial fitting everything, but then again the result is a perfect fit, you never need to redo anything, etc. I've seen so called "pro" drain work that looks like shit frankly.
It takes longer, but you get the end result right.
Well........ Kirk....... your a pro........ drain........... guy now.james t kirk said:
Just remember to take a rag and wipe away any excess glue from the joints before in sets. That's what mainly makes drains look like shit or not.
Correct!james t kirk said:
Not sure what Joy has to do with it...james t kirk said:
So you will know how to put it all back together...james t kirk said:
The twist is very important! Make sure you line up all your hash marks as well!james t kirk said:
james t kirk said:
Cycleguy, I think he uses Joy (dish soap) as a, dare I say it on this board but, lube. The pipes easily fit together and come apart as he measures and aligns the pipes originally. Then after they are marked, it easily washes of with hot water, dry em off and cement them together again. Not a bad idea really.
Give some thought to the order you're going to cement the joints together. The dry/test fits are easy to flex and bend, but the joints you have cemented won't be, and you may find it next to impossible to make the last pieces go where you want. Can be crucial if you're joining existing assemblies, or need to get thru a hole with yr pipe.
Yes, I use the Joy Dish soap as a lube.
The tolerances are so tight that if you take a section of pipe and try to mate it up dry with the fitting, you might push it about half way in before friction takes over and you are not able to push it in any further. By using the dish soap, you can push it fully home, then pull it apart, though pulling it apart can sometimes be challenging even with the dish soap and you can not leave it too long. Just trial fit it, then take it apart and clean it all up. The liquid paper will not come off when you rinse off the pipes and fittings.
Like I said, I am an amateur, but I did manage to re-drain my entire house (built in 1920). Truth be told, there is A LOT to be said for how quiet cast iron pipes are verses ABS, however, the durability of ABS is second to none.
The tolerances are so tight that if you take a section of pipe and try to mate it up dry with the fitting, you might push it about half way in before friction takes over and you are not able to push it in any further. By using the dish soap, you can push it fully home, then pull it apart, though pulling it apart can sometimes be challenging even with the dish soap and you can not leave it too long. Just trial fit it, then take it apart and clean it all up. The liquid paper will not come off when you rinse off the pipes and fittings.
Like I said, I am an amateur, but I did manage to re-drain my entire house (built in 1920). Truth be told, there is A LOT to be said for how quiet cast iron pipes are verses ABS, however, the durability of ABS is second to none.
Actually, I find what makes the pipes look like shit is when they are put in on whacky angles, or skews. I notice the geometry of the pipes AND if the pipes are secured properly, or just left loose.T.O.tourist said:
I also try to get a nice bead of glue to sit right around the rim of the fitting, kind of like a glue caulk. Don't know if it makes any difference really, but what the hell.
Oh, and I use an old compound angle mitre saw to make all my cuts so that everything is nice and square.
THAT explains it!
Thus the confusion! Whenever I hear that name, I have uncontrollable flashbacks of my recent captivity!james t kirk said:
Correction to above.....
I'm actually using "Sunlight" Dishsoap, not joy.
I dunno what it's called, I just buy the stuff in the yellow bottle and it works for cleaning dishes AND for lubing ABS pipe.
I'm actually using "Sunlight" Dishsoap, not joy.
I dunno what it's called, I just buy the stuff in the yellow bottle and it works for cleaning dishes AND for lubing ABS pipe.
