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paytheway

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I would REALLY appreciate it if someone could answer these :)

1 - how big of a place would a start-up MP require? how many sq ft and rooms?
2 - what would the avg lease be for a place like that in a decent location?
3 - what equipment/furniture would be required and how much would it cost?
4 - how would it advertise (aside from TERB) to ensure that it gets busy quickly?
5 - how many months on avg does it take an MP to become "fairly busy"?
6 - how many girls would a start-up MP employ? how do the shifts work?
7 - how do the girls get paid? hourly? commission? mix of both? and how much?
8 - what are the prices for all the standard services provided by MPs?
9 - if the girls get paid commission, how much (standard %?) of this goes to them?
10 - are they employed as employees or contractors? does MP pay pension, etc?
11 - what's the avg amount of money spent by each customer per session?
12 - whats the avg amount that an MP pulls in daily?
13 - what are some of the common pitfalls that end up burying up-start MPs?
14 - would there ever be trouble with the law if everything is done by the book?
15 - in the end of the day, what's the avg profit margin for an MP?
 

maurice93

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You missed the most important question. How are you going to get the best girls to work for you.

Given that you think in advance you can screw them, I assume your going to run a shithole operation, that it is not too busy, and probably without a licence either.
 

paytheway

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maurice93 said:
You missed the most important question. How are you going to get the best girls to work for you.
I've been told by every person who has ever worked for me that i'm by far, by far the best boss they've ever had. That's how i'd retain them. As far as finding them in the first place... You tell me!

Also, as far as screwing goes. Please. Chicks are naturally hornier than guys. And since i'm a very good-looking guy, i think i'd have more of a "problem" with them wanting to screw me than me than the other way around :)
 

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Mystique Misty said:
That statement is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard said on this board , if Chicks ( your word not mine , which most of us " ladies '' would find disrespectful ) are naturally hornier then men there would be no need for SP's or MP's , afterall how often do you hear about a lady having to pay for intimacy because her partner will not oblige her ? Also us Chicks do not have a whole entire board donated to reading and writing reviews about the options that are availible to us when it comes to finding intimacy . Why ? Because we dont need to look for sex it finds us if we so choose . Also just because you say your a very good looking guy does not mean your a good lover . Most ladies would rather have a so so looking guy who is a great lover then a good looking guy who is not , if we happen to get both those qualities then its a huge bonus but it is extremely rare . There is nothing worse then a good looking arrogent lover , he becomes real ugly real soon .
I don't think it's fair for you to call me arrogant. My posts were good-natured, and it was others (including yourself to some degree) who met them with that type of attitude.

As far as this little debate of ours goes: to my best knowledge, the fact that women are naturally hornier than men has been scientifically proven. Correct me if i'm wrong, but i've heard this many times, and not once have i heard the opposite. Speaking from personal experience: while i have a very high sex drive, most girls are actually hornier i am. Sometimes i'm downright confused as to how they do it - you'd think several times a day would be enough, but 20 minutes later they're asking for it again. And let's not forget that it's women, and not men, who have an organ specifically designed for sexual pleasure, an organ that has no other function. And it has what, 100 times more nerve endings than the tip of the penis? I'm bitter :)

With regards to the way our society is structured: i think that there are many, many reasons for that. First off, from a general social standpoint, promiscuous women are looked down on, while similar men are looked up to. This explains why in a night club, you might get approached by 20 men, but i'll only get approached by 5 women. But how many more will look at me, 'accidently' bump into me, spill their drink near me, etc? Women seek out sex in ways other than men, but just because what they're doing isn't as obvious doesn't change the fact that it's there. So why do places like this exist? You're right, because women don't need to look for sex as hard as men do. They don't, because they don't have the guts to. Show me a girl, just one girl, who has the guts to walk up to a guy on the street and ask him for his number? I have yet to meet one. Because of this, men had to compensate. If we didn't start doing the approaching, humans would go extinct.

Today, women can enjoy the benefits of us having adapted. They sit back and let the men come to them. Ironically enough, they think that they've got the better part of the bargain, which isn't really the case. It's like you said: great guys, really great guys are extremely rare. As a woman, your odds of meeting a guy like that unless he approaches you are slim to none. You're fully dependant on this, and if that guy doesn't find you, you're out of luck. Sure, you'll be able to choose among dozens, even hundreds of inferior men, but that's not what you're after, is it? Men, on the other hand, have it made. We can spot our perfect girl on the street, walk up to her, ask a few sneaky questions and find out if she really is the rare girl we're after. And if she's not, we can just walk across the street to the next beauty and try again. We have full control of our sexual destiny and have zero dependency on luck, chance, etc. In the end, we ALWAYS find EXACTLY what we've always dreamed of (note that i'm referring to men, real men here).

But you can't say that men need sex more than women do simply because that's the way things work at the moment. Look back at history: in ancient Babylon, a man could walk through the streets and be approached by women and children, who'd invite him into their houses and have sex with them, for money, in front of their husbands. What kind of conclusions about our genome could you draw from that? I'd be confused. But those genes haven't changed one bit in a few thousand years. This leads me to believe that "the way things work" has more to do with social stigmas than it does with the nature of manhood or the nature of womanhood. WE BOTH NEED SEX.
 

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paytheway said:
I would REALLY appreciate it if someone could answer these :)

1 - how big of a place would a start-up MP require? how many sq ft and rooms?
2 - what would the avg lease be for a place like that in a decent location?
3 - what equipment/furniture would be required and how much would it cost?
4 - how would it advertise (aside from TERB) to ensure that it gets busy quickly?
5 - how many months on avg does it take an MP to become "fairly busy"?
6 - how many girls would a start-up MP employ? how do the shifts work?
7 - how do the girls get paid? hourly? commission? mix of both? and how much?
8 - what are the prices for all the standard services provided by MPs?
9 - if the girls get paid commission, how much (standard %?) of this goes to them?
10 - are they employed as employees or contractors? does MP pay pension, etc?
11 - what's the avg amount of money spent by each customer per session?
12 - whats the avg amount that an MP pulls in daily?
13 - what are some of the common pitfalls that end up burying up-start MPs?
14 - would there ever be trouble with the law if everything is done by the book?
15 - in the end of the day, what's the avg profit margin for an MP?
Buddy, if you have to ask all those questions you don't know anything about the business and therefore, should stay out of it.If you're really dead set about opening an MP I'd suggest you go work for one for a while so you can learn the trade. Typically before one opens a business of any kind they learn the business first, and NOT by posting on an escort review board.

Since you're new here, I will explain something to you: When you make a comment like "it is scientifically proven that chicks are hornier than guys..." one typically backs that up with a link to a site that proves his or her point.

If "one hears this all the time" doesn't make it a scientifically proven fact.

But since you're new here's your answers (mostly just common sense but...):
1 - how big of a place would a start-up MP require? how many sq ft and rooms? Between 300 - 5000 sq ft
2 - what would the avg lease be for a place like that in a decent location? Between $1000 - $5000 per month
3 - what equipment/furniture would be required and how much would it cost? ummmm yeah, why not research this online yourself?
4 - how would it advertise (aside from TERB) to ensure that it gets busy quickly? Ummmm yellow pages, now magazine etc
5 - how many months on avg does it take an MP to become "fairly busy"? depending on your price structure, location, hours, advertising, You really don't know anything about this do you?
6 - how many girls would a start-up MP employ? how do the shifts work? Between 1 and 15 and they work as often as they want
7 - how do the girls get paid? hourly? commission? mix of both? and how much? Yes
8 - what are the prices for all the standard services provided by MPs? How about you do some research online and find this for yourself?
9 - if the girls get paid commission, how much (standard %?) of this goes to them? I would say that 100% of their commission goes to them DOH dumb question
10 - are they employed as employees or contractors? does MP pay pension, etc? It can work both ways and paying pension, that is up to them. If you know anything about the hiring of employees you'd know this answer already.
11 - what's the avg amount of money spent by each customer per session? That would depend on your prices now wouldn't it?
12 - whats the avg amount that an MP pulls in daily? Why don't you park outside an MP and count the customers and multiply that number by your prices?
13 - what are some of the common pitfalls that end up burying up-start MPs? You get busted, prices too high, screwing the help, stealing money, shitty location, poor service, poor maintenance, guys who get into the biz not knowing a damn thing
14 - would there ever be trouble with the law if everything is done by the book? Yes, that is why you hear about them getting busted all the time DOH and I'd check with a criminal attorney on this
15 - in the end of the day, what's the avg profit margin for an MP That too will depending on your rent, your prices, your maintenance fees, the amount you pay your staff, cost of supplies....
 

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paytheway said:
I don't think it's fair for you to call me arrogant. My posts were good-natured, and it was others (including yourself to some degree) who met them with that type of attitude.

As far as this little debate of ours goes: to my best knowledge, the fact that women are naturally hornier than men has been scientifically proven. Correct me if i'm wrong, but i've heard this many times, and not once have i heard the opposite. Speaking from personal experience: while i have a very high sex drive, most girls are actually hornier i am. Sometimes i'm downright confused as to how they do it - you'd think several times a day would be enough, but 20 minutes later they're asking for it again. And let's not forget that it's women, and not men, who have an organ specifically designed for sexual pleasure, an organ that has no other function. And it has what, 100 times more nerve endings than the tip of the penis? I'm bitter :)

With regards to the way our society is structured: i think that there are many, many reasons for that. First off, from a general social standpoint, promiscuous women are looked down on, while similar men are looked up to. This explains why in a night club, you might get approached by 20 men, but i'll only get approached by 5 women. But how many more will look at me, 'accidently' bump into me, spill their drink near me, etc? Women seek out sex in ways other than men, but just because what they're doing isn't as obvious doesn't change the fact that it's there. So why do places like this exist? You're right, because women don't need to look for sex as hard as men do. They don't, because they don't have the guts to. Show me a girl, just one girl, who has the guts to walk up to a guy on the street and ask him for his number? I have yet to meet one. Because of this, men had to compensate. If we didn't start doing the approaching, humans would go extinct. But you can't say that men need sex more than women do simply because that's the way things work at the moment. Look back at history: in ancient Babylon, a man could walk through the streets and be approached by women and children, who'd invite him into their houses and have sex with them, for money, in front of their husbands. What kind of conclusions about our genome could you draw from that? I'd be confused. But those genes haven't changed one bit in a few thousand years. This leads me to believe that "the way things work" has more to do with social stigmas than it does with the nature of manhood or the nature of womanhood. WE BOTH NEED SEX.

ROTFLMFAO

like misty said if women were more horny then men wives would have so many headaches, and there would be no need for sp's or mpa's.

now as for you saying children would offer sex. are you the nut ball of the year or what? as a mom i am very offened by that remark. for a newbie your not making a great first impression here buddy.

i have to ask this are you tbill or related to him cause you both seem to have the same dolt image going on.

good grief if you were my boss i'd slap you in the face to clue you in. i really do feel sorry for anyone who has to put up with you each day. don't bother answering my post i like most people have you on iggy.
 

paytheway

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tboy said:
Buddy, if you have to ask all those questions you don't know anything about the business and therefore, should stay out of it.If you're really dead set about opening an MP I'd suggest you go work for one for a while so you can learn the trade. Typically before one opens a business of any kind they learn the business first, and NOT by posting on an escort review board.

Since you're new here, I will explain something to you: When you make a comment like "it is scientifically proven that chicks are hornier than guys..." one typically backs that up with a link to a site that proves his or her point.

If "one hears this all the time" doesn't make it a scientifically proven fact.
You're right, i DON'T know the business. And that's WHY i'm asking. I won't touch it UNTIL i'm familiar with every microscopic detail of it. And TERB is gonna be one of my sources because quite frankly, with the amount of people present, i think it'll be a good one. Thanks for the work idea though. I'll have an associate take care of that. Oh and the link... i'll look for one. I have to be at work in 70 minutes and still have to go sprint on the beach. I'm screwed :) Bye for now!
 

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luv4lust said:
now as for you saying children would offer sex. are you the nut ball of the year or what? as a mom i am very offened by that remark.
If you wish to add me to your ignore list, feel free to do so and remain ignorant. Regardless of whether or not you're offended by it, women and young children in ancient Babylon DID traditionally walk up to strangers (outsiders who weren't from the city, such as soldiers, mercenaries, etc) and offer sex for money, which was paid out to their husbands/fathers. Consider picking up a book once in awhile, perhaps it'll help with the whole ignorance issue.

P.S. This, i do have a reference for. The book's right near me - Alexander: The Ambiguity of Greatness by Guy Rogers.
 

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PTW, I hope that for your sake, you are a troll.

Otherwise your posts seem seriously delusional.
 

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paytheway said:
You're right, i DON'T know the business. And that's WHY i'm asking. I won't touch it UNTIL i'm familiar with every microscopic detail of it. And TERB is gonna be one of my sources because quite frankly, with the amount of people present, i think it'll be a good one.
You're not going to learn how to operate a MP by reading TERB. The only people capable of answering your questions are the owners of existing establishments - and I'm sure they're not going to be interested in helping an obviously delusonal guy who's living in a fantasy land - on the very unlikely chance that you might possibly create competition.

And as for your ridiculous day-dream of opening a spa and banging hot and horny chicks all day....

As the previous posters asserted - if women were hornier than men - there'd be no need for a sex industry that almost solely caters to men.

And to be blunt - after a long day at work - satisfying the needs of our clients - the last thing most of us think about is getting laid. It doesn't matter how "hot" you think you are - our job tends to make us even more picky than the average girl.
 

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I agree with tboy 100% also you talk about screwing your staff. A lot of Top ladies/MPAs will NOT work for someone that wants sex from his staff. Doesn't matter how good looking you may brag you are. Also we want to open a Spa by posting on a review board
where a lot of MPAs always are looking for work @ a Spa you should watch what you say. To run a great Spa Top 6 things you need are

1. Beautiful attendants
2. A nice Spa
3. A good website
4.Good advertising
5. Good rates
6. Good management



Also running a spa is not a easy as you may think it is.. And since there are so many Spas anyone can to go to. Offer something other Spas don't

Thanks a LOT for your advice, i'll definitely take all that into account :) Also, as far as the screwing goes... it looks like i continue to be misunderstood. Look, I'm used to women wanting to have sex with me after they spend some time with me and get to know me. It follows that if i'm constantly surrounded by women, i'll be having a LOT of sex, even and especially if i don't "try" for it. I wouldn't have to force anyone to do anything, and wouldn't do it even if i did. Excuse the caps, but I'M AGAINST THAT KIND OF SHIT. By asking what i did, i was trying to learn more about the way the industry looks at this things 1) is this common 2) is it public knowledge 3) how people feel about it 4) how many girls are into it 5) how many operators are into it 6) any reasons not to do it (i.e. professionalism, etc) 7) etc. Hopefully, that settles the matter once and for all. Thanks for your attention
 

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paytheway said:
Thanks a LOT for your advice, i'll definitely take all that into account :) Also, as far as the screwing goes... it looks like i continue to be misunderstood. Look, I'm used to women wanting to have sex with me after they spend some time with me and get to know me. It follows that if i'm constantly surrounded by women, i'll be having a LOT of sex, even and especially if i don't "try" for it. I wouldn't have to force anyone to do anything, and wouldn't do it even if i did. Excuse the caps, but I'M AGAINST THAT KIND OF SHIT. By asking what i did, i was trying to learn more about the way the industry looks at this things 1) is this common 2) is it public knowledge 3) how people feel about it 4) how many girls are into it 5) how many operators are into it 6) any reasons not to do it (i.e. professionalism, etc) 7) etc. Hopefully, that settles the matter once and for all. Thanks for your attention
Dude, you just don't get it do you? You ignore the fact that Mp's have written here TELLING you that they won't screw the boss and after a long day of whacking off client's screwing the boss is the LAST thing on their mind. I don't give a rat's ass if you make Brad Pitt look like a bulldog, no MP is going to want to do you...EOS.

I mean come on dude, your deductions are whacked. You are saying that because there will be attractive women around you WILL be having sex? WTF is that? I guess you can also deduce, because you're just the epitome of manhood, that you could also just saunter into a lesbian bar and bang one in the bathroom? Your logic is not even close to being logical.

Is it just me or does this guy kind of sound like "tensor_bandage" who has recently begun posting in the review section?
 

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paytheway said:
Also, as far as screwing goes. Please. Chicks are naturally hornier than guys.
You gotta stop getting your social statistics from the porno channel.:D
Those women in porno movies are horny as hell because at the end of the day there is a paycheque.
 

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tboy said:
Dude, you just don't get it do you? You ignore the fact that Mp's have written here TELLING you that they won't screw the boss and after a long day of whacking off client's screwing the boss is the LAST thing on their mind. I don't give a rat's ass if you make Brad Pitt look like a bulldog, no MP is going to want to do you...EOS.

I mean come on dude, your deductions are whacked. You are saying that because there will be attractive women around you WILL be having sex? WTF is that? I guess you can also deduce, because you're just the epitome of manhood, that you could also just saunter into a lesbian bar and bang one in the bathroom? Your logic is not even close to being logical.
Bud, there's no need to be bitter. Yes, "because there are attractive women around, i will be having sex." And lots of it. It's that simple. This is the way it's always been. I know the fact that you have to pay for what i get for free pisses you off, but that's really not my fault. I'm sure that if you spent as much time in the gym as i do, you'd get the same results. But hey, you choose not to, so you are where you are by choice, and there is no need to get angry at me because of it. With regards to what the two girls said: i respect their opinions. They're certainly entitled to do or not do whatever the hell they want, and that's really none of my business. In my experience, girls who are in this industry (and girls in general) are horny like rabbits, but if i'm wrong and am living in a bubble, what goes on outside of it is really none of my business either; inside of it, girls are horny as hell and love sex every bit as much as i do and then some. I don't really care what the logic (if there is any) behind all of this is, all i care about is that it works. Like electricity, i don't really have to know every technical detail behind it to enjoy the benefits.
 

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tboy said:
Buddy, if you have to ask all those questions you don't know anything about the business and therefore, should stay out of it.If you're really dead set about opening an MP I'd suggest you go work for one for a while so you can learn the trade. Typically before one opens a business of any kind they learn the business first, and NOT by posting on an escort review board.

Since you're new here, I will explain something to you: When you make a comment like "it is scientifically proven that chicks are hornier than guys..." one typically backs that up with a link to a site that proves his or her point.

If "one hears this all the time" doesn't make it a scientifically proven fact.

But since you're new here's your answers (mostly just common sense but...):
1 - how big of a place would a start-up MP require? how many sq ft and rooms? Between 300 - 5000 sq ft
2 - what would the avg lease be for a place like that in a decent location? Between $1000 - $5000 per month
3 - what equipment/furniture would be required and how much would it cost? ummmm yeah, why not research this online yourself?
4 - how would it advertise (aside from TERB) to ensure that it gets busy quickly? Ummmm yellow pages, now magazine etc
5 - how many months on avg does it take an MP to become "fairly busy"? depending on your price structure, location, hours, advertising, You really don't know anything about this do you?
6 - how many girls would a start-up MP employ? how do the shifts work? Between 1 and 15 and they work as often as they want
7 - how do the girls get paid? hourly? commission? mix of both? and how much? Yes
8 - what are the prices for all the standard services provided by MPs? How about you do some research online and find this for yourself?
9 - if the girls get paid commission, how much (standard %?) of this goes to them? I would say that 100% of their commission goes to them DOH dumb question
10 - are they employed as employees or contractors? does MP pay pension, etc? It can work both ways and paying pension, that is up to them. If you know anything about the hiring of employees you'd know this answer already.
11 - what's the avg amount of money spent by each customer per session? That would depend on your prices now wouldn't it?
12 - whats the avg amount that an MP pulls in daily? Why don't you park outside an MP and count the customers and multiply that number by your prices?
13 - what are some of the common pitfalls that end up burying up-start MPs? You get busted, prices too high, screwing the help, stealing money, shitty location, poor service, poor maintenance, guys who get into the biz not knowing a damn thing
14 - would there ever be trouble with the law if everything is done by the book? Yes, that is why you hear about them getting busted all the time DOH and I'd check with a criminal attorney on this
15 - in the end of the day, what's the avg profit margin for an MP That too will depending on your rent, your prices, your maintenance fees, the amount you pay your staff, cost of supplies....
Thanks a LOT for taking the time to type out all that!! :)
 

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Mystique Misty said:
First of all I did not call YOU arrogant I was speaking in general terms how interesting that you focused on that term in reguards to yourself ! Perhaps in your circle of friends the majority of woman you have had experiences with seem to hornier then yourself . Let me clue you in on something which might help you to brush up on your lover skills . Women might come across hornier then men because our need for intimacy is a physcial need for touching , embrassing , stroking , caring , loving and attention first to our minds then our bodies . Although men crave these thing as well more often then not you need and want the release . It might surprise you that many women are quite satisfied even for a little while with a lover that provides all that tenderness for her . It also might surprise you that many woman go without having an orgasm during love making so no wonder the need it still so great . I am 1 of those woman who is most likely hornier then most men I know and have been with but my is need is to feel and be loved , touched and carressed if the release happens its a bonus . BTW sorry to here your bitter why dont you try drinking some pineapple juice it might make you sweeter and your ejaculate taste better ...ha >>>Misty
That was really sweet. Not sure what else to say :)
 

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I believe paytheway when he says he is a really good looking guy, and a jock who goes to the gym a lot. He sounds just like one.
 

paytheway

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Jackass :) I'm not even THAT good-looking though. Not like Orlando Bloom or anything. I just have balls.
 

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paytheway said:
Jackass :) I'm not even THAT good-looking though. Not like Orlando Bloom or anything. I just have balls.
Ok, so less than Orlando Bloom, but better than Martin Short, and somebody with balls?

I knew it, you are Austin Powers! Yeaaahhh Baby! No wonder the women love you.
 
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