1% of Torotonians have HiV

Celticman

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Based on the article, it means that there are about 35,000 HIV infected folk in TO. And 3,000,000 do not have it. If two thirds of the 35,000 are gay men, that leaves 11,000 others, for which there is no breakdown. Even if we guessed the 11,000 is a 50-50 split M/F, that is very few women with HIV. But it only takes one, and the puzzling issue is there is an upward trend in the growth of cases.
 

Moviefan-2

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...the puzzling issue is there is an upward trend in the growth of cases.
At least, there was at the time. The article in the original post is three years old.

The risk of contracting HIV if you're heterosexual is extremely low, even if you're an active hobbyist. But there are plenty of other good reasons to practice safe sex.
 

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From what I've read over the last six months the greatest increase is in men over 50. Apparently Viagra has a lot to do with it.
That's not surprising. I remember reading a couple of years ago that the greatest increase of STDs was in retirement homes. Again, this increase was blamed on the boner pills and the fact that old folks were anti-condom.
 

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Based on the article, it means that there are about 35,000 HIV infected folk in TO. And 3,000,000 do not have it. If two thirds of the 35,000 are gay men, that leaves 11,000 others, for which there is no breakdown. Even if we guessed the 11,000 is a 50-50 split M/F, that is very few women with HIV. But it only takes one, and the puzzling issue is there is an upward trend in the growth of cases.
Disturbing article. It's dated 2011. What's the rate now? Most of the cases in the GTA. This makes it more confusing. So is Brampton more safe than in the GTA? Vaughan more safe?
 

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Disturbing article. It's dated 2011. What's the rate now? Most of the cases in the GTA. This makes it more confusing. So is Brampton more safe than in the GTA? Vaughan more safe?
Brampton and Vaughan are a part of the GTA
 

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not that puzzling. there is no cure for hiv/aids but they are living longer.
More to the point, extreme HIV fear is a largely 80s phenomenon, much like acid rain. Not that it went away, of course, but it crept out of the public consciousness and became relegated to a problem in Africa to many people. The risk didn't decrease, but the fear did, and precaution fell accordingly.
 

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not that puzzling. there is no cure for hiv/aids but they are living longer.
Good point. The absolute number of people living with HIV is conceptually and mathematically different than the number of new cases diagnosed in a given year (and measuring the change in that statistic year over year).

The statistic quoted is the number of people living with HIV, which could be influenced by the fact that they are living longer. I would like to see the number of new cases diagnosed each year.
 

Babypowder

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Good point. The absolute number of people living with HIV is conceptually and mathematically different than the number of new cases diagnosed in a given year (and measuring the change in that statistic year over year).

The statistic quoted is the number of people living with HIV, which could be influenced by the fact that they are living longer. I would like to see the number of new cases diagnosed each year.
with respect to health region, the overall number of HIV diagnoses in Toronto decreased from 677 in 1996 to 536 in 1997 and remained stable from 1997 to 2001. It then increased to a peak of 740 in 2002, with a decreasing trend thereafter. The average number of HIV cases significantly decreased from 692 in 2002-06 to 599 in 2007-09, then further decreased to 539 in 2010-12. The Central West health region experienced an increase of HIV diagnoses from 1996 to 2008 and a decreasing trend thereafter; compared to 2004-08, the average annual cases in 2009-12 significantly decreased from 113 to 77 (p=0.003). In Ottawa, HIV diagnoses varied from year to year and appeared to increase in the period of 2006-10 (annually about 150 cases compared to 130 cases in 1996-2005) and to decrease afterwards. The Central East, other health regions experienced an increase of HIV diagnoses over time. We observed no increasing or decreasing trend in the other health regions.
http://www.ohemu.utoronto.ca/HIVupdate_overview.html
 

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The worrisome element remains-how easy, or difficult, can HIV transmission occur during daty, bbbj, pussy slides, or reaming while partaking with SPs or MPAs.
I believe there are relatively few documented cases of HIV transmission occurring as a result of any of the above [excluding cases where open sores/blood are present].
Herpes, hepatitis and other STD's are a particular concern for any of these activities, but HIV is certainly not likely to transmit during (non-penetrative) pussy slides or BBBJ.
 

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LisbethNova

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I would like to think that anyone participating in this lifestyle is extra safe and get tested regularly. But I have to admit, after reading some pretty graphic reviews on particular providers ... I seriously wonder how guys cannot worry or not protect themselves.
 

TeasePlease

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That equals to .0001 of the population. It is far from an epidemic. Let's concentrate on cancer..
Isnt this a thought provoking comment!

My my initial reaction was "but one is an elective, voluntary risk"!

but I suppose the same could be said about smoking or diet....
 

Ridgeman08

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Isnt this a thought provoking comment!

My my initial reaction was "but one is an elective, voluntary risk"!

but I suppose the same could be said about smoking or diet....
Exactly!

Which is why I don't even give it a second thought.

Eat right, exercise daily, don't smoke, don't drink and drive, always practice safe sex, you'll likely live longer as you are in very low risk category.

Of course, all this is moot point if you drive in Toronto traffic!

Question for those reading and more informed than I: MSM? IDU? :confused:
 
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