Two sites is a great idea,a real need for it also.
Crystal, Iam afraid your too optimistic,waaay too much garbage on this site lately. Wish the mud slinging would end. Get back to the intended purpose of this once great board.
Remo, I totally agree with Johnny. You can't go wrong
with either place and the food is decent {free buffet}
Ladies at Sundowner slightly better looking but mileage
is usually better at Seductations. Have fun!