Mark Carney cranks up immigration again, while pretending not to.

Quote me properly "That's how you react after seeing yourself in the mirror, no doubt in my mind". You would probably add another quotient point to the 30-40 points I gifted to the retards above.
You seem to be displaying advanced stages of far right brain rot.
Maybe go take a walk outside and give your head a shake.
 
bullshit

Andrew Scheer was a viable alternative to Trudeau
Erin Otoole was a viable alternative to Trudeau
Pierre Poilievre was a viable alternative to Trudeau
Pierre Poilievre is a viable alternative to Carney

The truth of the matter is far too many just do not want a conservative govt because they foolishly believe the Liberals will give them more

Instead they are borrowing in your name to deliver the spending you want and that unsustainable merry-go-round is going to crash with catastrophic impacts on our country
Scheer was an incompetent boob and only a care taker of that position
How did Trudeau get into this discussion my dog would be a viable alternative to him.
PP. Is a showman and not even close to being in the same league as Carney.
All countries are in debt it's the way our banking system works, it's been that way since before the invention of income tax. Yes Carney is playing a dangerous game, but as any business man knows borrowing to invest is a strategy that has worked for centuries.
Ok kind of weird and off topic
 
Carney is not even a business man. He’s a banker.

He runs Canada like a third world African country. The people at the top get ridiculously wealthy, everyone else gets poorer.
 
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The backlash may be small now, but it will only grow because of this. Which will not benefit immigrants. The only beneficiaries are corporations that want to depress wages and increase customers.
Toronto needs more immigrants? Like the kind who laugh in your face on the streetcar for no apparent reason? Or the kind that stare you down on the subway for no apparent reason? Or the kind that won't move away from the rear door on the bus to let you off for no apparent reason? Or the kind that just don't like Canadians for no apparent reason?
 
I've provided the evidence. Just go down the Brookfield investment list and circle the conflicts of interest.

He's a crook. He takes public money and political power to "invests" in his projects.

What you want and will only accept is a video of Mark Carney shoving money in his pockets. It's just not how it works my friend. He's smarter than that.


Even down to fucking Data Centres he's invested in through Brookfield, but you guys can't connect the dots. It's so ridiculous it's funny. :ROFLMAO:

You've not provided any evidence just unproven conspiracies. You need to come back with a better argument
Carney is not even a business man. He’s a banker.

He runs Canada like a third world African country. The people at the top get ridiculously wealthy, everyone else gets poorer.
Wtf??? What do you think a business man is?
 
Toronto needs more immigrants? Like the kind who laugh in your face on the streetcar for no apparent reason? Or the kind that stare you down on the subway for no apparent reason? Or the kind that won't move away from the rear door on the bus to let you off for no apparent reason? Or the kind that just don't like Canadians for no apparent reason?
It is quite apparent to me why immigrants may be reacting to you that way. It sounds like a "you" problem.
 
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Setting aside some of the blatant xenophobia that is in this thread, there are obvious pros and cons about bringing in more immigrants. One thing I've said before is that Canada has an aging population and a birth rate that is below replacement levels. Which means we have a demographic time bomb waiting to go off, where the number of old will significantly outnumber the young. We're not alone in this. Japan is the poster child for this, and they could see a serious economic crisis develop because of all of this. Now, bringing in younger professionals (and recognizing their credentials) will really help the economy. More people = more consumers, high GDP and a bunch of other economic benefits.

But, as we all know, there are cons. We need to build more housing, and failing to do so will see prices go back to record highs. More workers could also lead to a drop in wages, since there is more competition. Our healthcare system is already being stretched, and while they can introduce new efficiencies to address this, it will still take a long time to work through the system.

Now, I know there are some people on here would be totally fine if all the immigrants came from western Europe. I don't really care where they come from, what languages the speak, or what faith they follow. What I want is educated people. Doctors, engineers, nurses, computer scientists. And, Canada needs to set them up for success, finding ways where they can use their credentials to work in their chosen fields. I don't want to hear stories about a doctor from Pakistan working as an Uber driver, and so on.

Now, as for Carney's popularity and what not, I reject this whole globalist bullshit that some folks on here blabber about. The reality is, as I said in the first paragraph, we don't have enough babies being born. That needs to be addressed in many ways. Immigration is just one (and maybe the easiest to do).
 
Setting aside some of the blatant xenophobia that is in this thread, there are obvious pros and cons about bringing in more immigrants. One thing I've said before is that Canada has an aging population and a birth rate that is below replacement levels. Which means we have a demographic time bomb waiting to go off, where the number of old will significantly outnumber the young. We're not alone in this. Japan is the poster child for this, and they could see a serious economic crisis develop because of all of this. Now, bringing in younger professionals (and recognizing their credentials) will really help the economy. More people = more consumers, high GDP and a bunch of other economic benefits.

But, as we all know, there are cons. We need to build more housing, and failing to do so will see prices go back to record highs. More workers could also lead to a drop in wages, since there is more competition. Our healthcare system is already being stretched, and while they can introduce new efficiencies to address this, it will still take a long time to work through the system.

Now, I know there are some people on here would be totally fine if all the immigrants came from western Europe. I don't really care where they come from, what languages the speak, or what faith they follow. What I want is educated people. Doctors, engineers, nurses, computer scientists. And, Canada needs to set them up for success, finding ways where they can use their credentials to work in their chosen fields. I don't want to hear stories about a doctor from Pakistan working as an Uber driver, and so on.

Now, as for Carney's popularity and what not, I reject this whole globalist bullshit that some folks on here blabber about. The reality is, as I said in the first paragraph, we don't have enough babies being born. That needs to be addressed in many ways. Immigration is just one (and maybe the easiest to do).
I agree with you totally if we do not have immigration we will have negative population growth and end up like Japan and Korea
 
Ok kind of weird and off topic
Not at all
Scheer was an incompetent boob and only a care taker of that position
Scheer is infinitely more competent than the damn fool man child Justin Trudeau

How did Trudeau get into this discussion my dog would be a viable alternative to him.


Carneys globalist agenda is a continuation of the globalist agenda Trudeau / Gerald Butts agenda
Carney is just far more slick and less prone to sticking his foot in his mouth

All countries are in debt it's the way our banking system works, it's been that way since before the invention of income tax.


no !!!! perpetual deflects and the accumulation of unsustainable debt is not the way our banking system works
history is filled with examples of countries who borrowed too much and printed far too much money
the result has always been run away inflation, an erosion of purchasing power and an erosion of living standards

Yes Carney is playing a dangerous game, but as any business man knows borrowing to invest is a strategy that has worked for centuries.

Any business that ran a decade of would be unable borrow
After 7 years of deficits CRA automatically assumes you do do not have a viable business and it triggers a tax audit

borrowing to invest is a strategy that has worked for centuries.
the liberals have not been borrowing to invest
thy have been borrowing to cover excessive operating costs (uncontrolled spending)


Canada is going to have very slow economic growth
excessive borrowing and slow growth are a recipe for disaster

There are two reasons a sovereign nation is able to to borrow after a decade of deficits
1. It can raise taxes (Canadians are already taxed way too much)
2. It can print money >> inflation

You should take some economics / finances courses
If you have, you should ask for refund on your tuition
 
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Just for reference check, which party is advocating for zero immigration?

The pro immigration…, scratch that it’s really a support Liberal crowd, will make up arguments to falsify a position.

But who in government is actually proposing no immigrants?
 
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but as any business man knows borrowing to invest is a strategy that has worked for centuries.
like the investment in Stellantis ?

business investments have risk
governments should not be taking on business risk with taxpayers money
individual tax payers can assume business risk if they choose via the stock markets / mutual funds etc

governments should focus on creating an environment which drives private investment
low taxation
infrastruture
an educated population
non punative regulation

the liberals want massive govt involvement in the economy and that just does not work well
 
Just for reference check, which party is advocating for zero immigration?

The pro immigration…, scratch that it’s really a support Liberal crowd, will make up arguments to falsify a position.

But who in government is actually proposing no immigrants?
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Canada admitted 260,411 permanent residents in 2014, according to data from Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) and Statistics


we need to be below this value and build a lot of homes
 
i do get that immigration does help stimulate the economy but there comes a point where you have to focus on the home front and stop importing more cheap workers for corporations
 
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bullshit

Andrew Scheer was a viable alternative to Trudeau
Erin Otoole was a viable alternative to Trudeau
Pierre Poilievre was a viable alternative to Trudeau
Pierre Poilievre is a viable alternative to Carney

The truth of the matter is far too many just do not want a conservative govt because they foolishly believe the Liberals will give them more

Instead they are borrowing in your name to deliver the spending you want and that unsustainable merry-go-round is going to crash with catastrophic impacts on our country

When oh when will the CanCons discover their Edmund Burke and start focusing on winnability rather than on yester-year's warmed-over hash of viable alternatives!
 
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like the investment in Stellantis ?

business investments have risk
governments should not be taking on business risk with taxpayers money

Its time to end corporate socialism.
Let them fail if they fail, don't bail them out.

Canada should take back Stellantis and nationalize it.
 
Now, I know there are some people on here would be totally fine if all the immigrants came from western Europe ... The reality is, as I said in the first paragraph, we don't have enough babies being born. That needs to be addressed in many ways. Immigration is just one (and maybe the easiest to do).
I commend you on your nuanced post. You considered both the pros and cons of immigration. The rest of the posters here do not. Either they want to expel all immigrants, or they want the doors flung wide open.

For the record, I share your views. I had no problem with a slow and steady rate of immigration, which is what we had before Trudeau. Unfortunately he blew up the targets, and now we need a pause.
 
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Setting aside some of the blatant xenophobia that is in this thread, there are obvious pros and cons about bringing in more immigrants. One thing I've said before is that Canada has an aging population and a birth rate that is below replacement levels. Which means we have a demographic time bomb waiting to go off, where the number of old will significantly outnumber the young. We're not alone in this. Japan is the poster child for this, and they could see a serious economic crisis develop because of all of this. Now, bringing in younger professionals (and recognizing their credentials) will really help the economy. More people = more consumers, high GDP and a bunch of other economic benefits.

But, as we all know, there are cons. We need to build more housing, and failing to do so will see prices go back to record highs. More workers could also lead to a drop in wages, since there is more competition. Our healthcare system is already being stretched, and while they can introduce new efficiencies to address this, it will still take a long time to work through the system.

Now, I know there are some people on here would be totally fine if all the immigrants came from western Europe. I don't really care where they come from, what languages the speak, or what faith they follow. What I want is educated people. Doctors, engineers, nurses, computer scientists. And, Canada needs to set them up for success, finding ways where they can use their credentials to work in their chosen fields. I don't want to hear stories about a doctor from Pakistan working as an Uber driver, and so on.

Now, as for Carney's popularity and what not, I reject this whole globalist bullshit that some folks on here blabber about. The reality is, as I said in the first paragraph, we don't have enough babies being born. That needs to be addressed in many ways. Immigration is just one (and maybe the easiest to do).
Immigrants are doing jobs that Canadians either cannot or will not do. As you mentioned, immigrants are off setting Canada’s negative birth rate. More Canadians are retiring from the workforce than are being replaced which causes industry to pressure the Feds for more immigrants ASAP.
As the demographics shift to an older population. more healthcare workers are required. It is not the relatively younger immigrants that are using up the healthcare resources, it is the geriatric Canadians at this point in time.
Go to any seniors home or geriatric hospital wing in the GTA and you will find that the majority of staff are immigrants, so where are the Canadian workers?
Politicians like Danielle Smith in Alberta thrive off of xenophobia but it is too late,as Canada already looks much different than it did
50 years ago and more change is coming. And for the bleeding hearts, yes more Indians are coming because Canada is out of options.
 
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Immigrants are doing jobs that Canadians either cannot or will not do. As you mentioned, immigrants are off setting Canada’s negative birth rate. More Canadians are retiring from the workforce than are being replaced which causes industry to pressure the Feds for more immigrants ASAP.
As the demographics shift to an older population. more healthcare workers are required. It is not the relatively younger immigrants that are using up the healthcare resources, it is the geriatric Canadians at this point in time.
Go to any seniors home or geriatric hospital wing in the GTA and you will find that the majority of staff are immigrants, so where are the Canadian workers?
Politicians like Danielle Smith in Alberta thrive off of xenophobia but it is too late,as Canada already looks much different than it did
50 years ago and more change is coming. And for the bleeding hearts, yes more Indians are coming because Canada is out of options.
Pretty high youth unemployment at the moment. Why can't workers enjoy a tightening labour market? The labour market was saturated for decades with boomers and women entering in huge numbers.

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