What happened to the Cornell topic?

If was a big nothingburger. It was a woman scorned.. she was pussed when the boys got tired of her and find younger playmates...

Red Devil said:

I think that at this point we are just too divided to be able to do anything together

most of us hate the other side so much that we can't even see the real enemy

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I am in the planning stages for a longer post tentatively to be titled "Fight the Real Enemy". That's what Sinéad O'Connor said on Saturday Night Live, (October 3,1992), when she ripped a photograph of the Pope in half.

I've stated previously that I'm a member of the "Don't give a shit about politics" plurality, so I'll be skewering both sides. No doubt I'll need to post it in Politics, because a similar themed thread I started was locked by mods almost immediately, but it wasn't removed.

I'll be working on that for a while. I'll maybe want to find some appropriate images to break up the text blocks, and I definitely plan to add at least one YouTube song link, and perhaps a few, but not the ones people would expect. I'll also need to re-watch The Godfather Trilogy for inspiration. I'm a believer that every lesson you need to learn to succeed in business and in life can be found through studying those films. Watching them while chatting with friends isn't going to help, because the lessons are rarely part of the plot summary. Why things happen is usually more important than what happens.

I like to stay out of the Politics forum as much s possible, not just for the shitshow it is, but because I have frankfurter on Ignore, so it makes it very difficult for me to follow the narrative. Some people just open the current page of any thread without any knowledge of the progression to that point and I just scroll past them, because anyone who does that will never say anything of interest to me.

Ideally I'd like to make the OP post, then sit back and watch, not replying to any quotes. Everything I want to say on the subject will be in one post, with subsections because some people might only want to read certain parts of it. I hope to get that done sometime before the end of this year. I'm sure quite a few people will open the thread, see the length, and close it. Ironically, they're the ones who should be reading it, but they won't.



This quote is likely no longer taught in high school English classes.

The person why speed reads looking for key words isn't going to understand why this video link is in this thread:


I first saw this clip in truncated form on some very early morning network news show. I know Hoda Kotb was a co-host, and I think Kathy Lee Gifford was the other. I watched that only once, because those shows are for early risers, and that's usually before my bedtime - I'm most creative between midnight and dawn.

When this video aired on TV, the first few and the last few seconds were clipped. It wasn't an issue of editing for time constraint, because the full video is only 34 seconds long.

TV omitted the fact that this was staged. Right at the beginning, an unseen human tossed the stick into the water, and I think I hear two people laughing, but that might just be the audio quality. He intentionally put the black dog at risk for the sake of creating a viral video. That didn't fit the scripted narrative of 'hero dog'.

They also clipped the end, so what's shown on news is an altruistic act. I attached no significance to the fact that one dog is black and the other is sort-of-white, because I hate that sort of imagined symbolism. It's fur, dammit, not skin.

Those last few seconds, however, are crucial to understanding the lighter-coloured dog's motive: he didn't care about the black dog. He just wanted the stick.

I've never heard of the host, Levi Nichs, before. I found this podcast to be both informative and highly entertaining.

There is a lot of information new to me in the first ten minutes or so about the Cornell 7, and a lot of clips/ commentary in the latter part which I literally laughed at out loud, and I don't use emoticons. If my opinion is valued for a 37 minute time commitment, this gets my endorsement. Just listening to the audio in the background may be informative, but considerably less entertaining.

One woman in a phone video presents all of the pertinent facts in a brief synopsis beginning about four minutes in.

greensquare said:

the "hazing" part

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Hazing is a form of 'revenge by proxy', which is seen in many forms, and many group situations. It's a rite to establish dominance based on seniority.

Until very recent times, hazing within families was the norm, to the point where the behavior became traditional. Example: A man with anger management issues becomes a father. From the very small part of The Bible which he selectively remembers and personally interprets, he knows that 'God mad man in his own image'. When he married and had children, he saw himself as 'God the father' of his family.

If GtF was disrespected by someone superior to him in the dominance hierarchy, like if his boss publicly shamed him for an error made or for insubordination, the man would just have to 'turn the other cheek' while his unrequited anger built internally. The anger would be released as father to son domestic violence the next time the son made an error or was insubordinate 'In the eyes of God the father' in that home. GtF would justify his behavior to himself by reasoning that he is 'toughening up' his son to prepare him for the real world. Sometimes GtF would use alcohol as an excuse for his behavior. Over time, the alcohol would also help him sleep, and would often 'cleanse his memory' of his actions, as a tool towards self-forgiveness. The son rarely defends himself against his larger and stronger father, so he waits until he is 'God the father' of his own family, then he exacts vengeance on his son, as symbolic vengeance against his father.

Hazing also exists on sports teams. In Junior Hockey, it's traditional that new members of the team must eat 'French toast'. For hockey players, 'French toast' is a piece of bread soaked in the urine of the senior players on the team.

Manifestations of 'revenge by proxy' happen all the time, but the motive often goes unnoticed. Example: A young woman has internalized that 'all men are the same'. A man 'disrespects her' by ghosting her after a one night stand, and posting her phone number on a bathroom stall wall. She's unable to take direct vengeance against THAT man, so instead she uses a different man, with the self justification 'I'm getting him back for what he probably must have done to someone else'.

This sort of thinking predates The Bible:



Euripides was a playwright during the 'Golden Age of Athens', Greece during the fifth century BCE. He was born a few years after the Greeks had defeated the Persian Empire in two attempts to conquer Greece. Had the Persians been successful, they would have had little difficulty steamrolling through most of Europe, which was largely uncivilized at that time.

greensquare said:

Looks like it's gone! Did someone get upset when more info came to the light and wouldn't admit it was about revenge and money?

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It was more of a politics thread maybe they moved it. The Mods and most people don't like politics in the lounge