Sexless marriage

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I find SBs way more complicated !

Yeah, well, I got into an IRL relationship with an escort. One of the most amazing women I have ever known but a complete basketcase emotionally and a complicated and tumultuous year of my life.

It's kind of ruined hobbying for me. Probably not permanently but I haven't seen one in a long time. I'll stick to SBs and girls I meet on the apps for now.
 
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Got kicked out of the room...:oops:
I got kicked out of my wifes bed for my snoring.
I actually now get a better nights sleep in the comfy heated/air conditioned back yard man cave/workshop where I sleep.
No more twitching legs that end up kicking me
Hot flash eruptioms where she throws all the covers off her doubling up covers onto me. Then I overheat.
And the bedroom fan on for any exposed bit of me to freeze.

She does theatre and comes home from rehersals late, in the evening, and it takes a while for her to wind down.
Me, I hit the bed at 10pm no problem. With an afternoon nap I am good for later bed times.

Mornings I am up 5, 5:30am no problem.
She usually awakens 8:30am.

By then I have coffeee made and in a thermos waiting for her.
Meat out of freezer thawing to later cook a dinner with.
Overnight dishwasher load emptied and dishes put away.
Laundry started last night either on the outside clothes line drying, or tossed into the dryer and then later sorted and folded ready to be put away.
 
Sex / physical intimacy is a basic human need. Therefore if one partner in a marriage no longer wants sex, they have that right, it’s their body. However if the expectation is ongoing monogamy from the other partner, that is not right. They then have unilaterally decided that their partner’s sex life is over, and that isn’t ok. If one person no longer wants sex in the relationship, they should give the other partner the freedom of seeking options elsewhere, or offer them a clean and painless exit from the relationship.

While most people are aware that most traditional wedding vows include a promise of fidelity, (forsaking all others), it is less well appreciated that this is accompanied by a promise of “keeping unto them” and “to have and to hold” as well. Unilaterally denying that is a violation of the marriage contract as much as cheating.
 
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@massman i couldn’t have said it better myself, while i personally don’t need to know if you’re married or not - very few people have come to see me and said their wife knows what they’re doing

it’s really refreshing when that happens because it means honest conversations were had, an agreement was made and “happy spouse, happy house” is in effect
 
Sex / physical intimacy is a basic human need. ...

I have to disagree with you on that. Your statement IS true for almost all men, but not for all men, and it's not true for many women.

Examples of men who don't require sex/ intimacy: Any hermit or a 'hoodoo guru' sitting on the top of a mountain in a Bizarro comic strip panel

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an inmate in solitary confinement, a person with a phobia associated with germs, a member of the Catholic clergy who is not a pedophile, perhaps a scientist who's entire waking life is devoted to work, or any of the hundreds of current or former members of TERB who only have sex with 'Rosey Palmer and her five sisters '.

Of course these are extreme examples, but that's how classical logic works; the needs are common and normal, but they are not universal.

I am in agreement with you that the need for physical intimacy applies to most women, with few exceptions, (One being devout nuns), but it doesn't apply to sex. There are many married women with children who see themselves only as mothers. In most, but not all cases, they needed to engage in one or more acts of procreative sex to achieve motherhood. When they feel no need to give birth to additional children, their interest in engaging in additional sexual acts for personal enjoyment can diminish or evaporate completely. That seems to have been the case in many of the sexless marriage anecdotes in this thread.
 
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I dont know if im in a sexless marriage. We have sex... but he cums too fast and the fun is over. Im left dealing with a wet noodle and vibrating my pussy into oblivion and not coming.

I dont know what's worst... getting all turned on and not cumming or not having sex in the first place.

Since your profession is Escort, you can't necessarily expect to receive much sympathy from guys on an Escort Review Board when you lament about the lack of sex you're receiving within marriage.
 
Since your profession is Escort, you can't necessarily expect to receive much sympathy from guys on an Escort Review Board when you lament about the lack of sex you're receiving within marriage.
For (many of) us guys, good sex with someone who you are in a relationship with trumps transactional sex. I’m sure this is more true for the providers of the transactional sex.
 
I have to disagree with you on that. Your statement IS true for almost all men, but not for all men, and it's not true for many women.

Examples of men who don't require sex/ intimacy: Any hermit or a 'hoodoo guru' sitting on the top of a mountain in a Bizarro comic strip panel

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an inmate in solitary confinement, a person with a phobia associated with germs, a member of the Catholic clergy who is not a pedophile, perhaps a scientist who's entire waking life is devoted to work, or any of the hundreds of current or former members of TERB who only have sex with 'Rosey Palmer and her five sisters '.

Of course these are extreme examples, but that's how classical logic works; the needs are common and normal, but they are not universal.

I am in agreement with you that the need for physical intimacy applies to most women, with few exceptions, (One being devout nuns), but it doesn't apply to sex. There are many married women with children who see themselves only as mothers. In most, but not all cases, they needed to engage in one or more acts of procreative sex to achieve motherhood. When they feel no need to give birth to additional children, their interest in engaging in additional sexual acts for personal enjoyment can diminish or evaporate completely. That seems to have been the case in many of the sexless marriage anecdotes in this thread.
Fair points. Sex may not be “needed” by all.

It still stands that when you commit to monogamy, in exchange for that commitment in your partner, there is an expectation that you will do your best to help them feel loved and physically happy.
 
@massman i couldn’t have said it better myself, while i personally don’t need to know if you’re married or not - very few people have come to see me and said their wife knows what they’re doing

it’s really refreshing when that happens because it means honest conversations were had, an agreement was made and “happy spouse, happy house” is in effect
Unfortunately due to our shameful view of sex in our still somewhat puritanical society, as well as the fact that these topics are some of the most common flashpoints for conflict in relationships, these issues rarely are discussed openly, frankly in a non judgemental way. And here we are….
 
I dont know if im in a sexless marriage. We have sex... but he cums too fast and the fun is over. Im left dealing with a wet noodle and vibrating my pussy into oblivion and not coming.

I dont know what's worst... getting all turned on and not cumming or not having sex in the first place.

Since your profession is Escort, you can't necessarily expect to receive much sympathy from guys on an Escort Review Board when you lament about the lack of sex you're receiving within marriage.



For (many of) us guys, good sex with someone who you are in a relationship with trumps transactional sex. I’m sure this is more true for the providers of the transactional sex.

You're white knighting here, but keep in mind that @SinnamonFairbanks has mentioned more than once in other posts that several aspects of her marriage are less than ideal. My comment referred only to quantity, rather than quality.

If an Escort is posting in The Lounge on TERB to bemoan the fact that she's not getting enough sex, (combining both transactional and relationship sex), I, and many other guys, would conclude that "Grace" is back, with a new handle.
 
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