Montreal agencies Euphoria and XO shut down in Police sting!

Did you read this! " La femme accepte les conditions. Le lendemain, elle se présente dans un condo d’un immeuble de la rue Saint-Antoine Ouest et commence à recevoir des clients. Mais après le troisième, elle appelle le responsable, lui dit qu’elle ne se sent pas bien et met fin abruptement à sa journée de travail. Elle ne reviendra pas.
--> The undercover saw three clients! I'd love to fuck a hot cop! Crazy. that is my Montréal !
I don’t see that quote anywhere in the Radio-Canada article about Euphoria. Nor is it in the old La Presse article about XO. Where is this from? And what case does it refer to?
 
Not good.


Did this guy abuse the women he saw? Guys who treat the women respectfully are just forgettable and memorable only when they repeat with the same girl.
 
Did this guy abuse the women he saw? Guys who treat the women respectfully are just forgettable and memorable only when they repeat with the same girl.

No indication of that.

He was one of the escort agency “executives” as a recruiter (had good eyesight apparently) and corporations, especially American ones, do not like it when their high-level employees recruit women for escort agencies in their spare time.
 
No indication of that.

He was one of the escort agency “executives” as a recruiter (had good eyesight apparently) and corporations, especially American ones, do not like it when their high-level employees recruit women for escort agencies in their spare time.
Okay thanks for the clarification. Oh this reminds me exactly the same situation years ago at finance firm I worked at. A financial advisor was doing the same exact thing and got caught because he was using his company email address conducting his side SP agency business.
 
Did you read this! " La femme accepte les conditions. Le lendemain, elle se présente dans un condo d’un immeuble de la rue Saint-Antoine Ouest et commence à recevoir des clients. Mais après le troisième, elle appelle le responsable, lui dit qu’elle ne se sent pas bien et met fin abruptement à sa journée de travail. Elle ne reviendra pas.
--> The undercover saw three clients! I'd love to fuck a hot cop! Crazy. that is my Montréal !
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I’m a Torontonian who doesn’t speak French and has never paid for sex in Montreal, so my knowledge of these cases comes only from the articles from La Presse and Radio-Canada articles that Haggy64 provides links for. (Thank you Haggy64.) I had Google translate them for me. I had already known about the La Presse piece about XO, which (in my opinion) is journalistic garbage — not a word of it should be believed. I’m sad to see that some of you on this thread seem to be taking that La Presse article seriously, as if it contains true information. I wrote a long debunking of it back in March:


That La Presse article doesn’t mention Euphoria. Portishead’s statement that "The trigger for Euphoria's takedown appears to be violent clients” seems to come from the Radio-Canada article by Romain Schué and Michael Deetjens. They clearly wanted readers to infer that Euphoria had violent clients. Their article about Euphoria does contain a section about violence. But Schué and Deetjens deal in typical journalistic deception. Below (in italics) is the relevant section. I’ll return after the italics to analyze it.

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Choking, hanging, forced penetration, physical violence, humiliation: several escorts told Radio-Canada they had been subjected to reprehensible, non-consensual acts while working for various agencies—particularly when clients demanded so-called "extras."

"It’s horrible and disgusting, the things you hear," admits Léa, an escort in her twenties, her voice tight with emotion.

"Clients think they can do whatever they want and say, 'I’m paying, so she has to give me what I want.'"
Quote from Léa (a pseudonym for an escort)

"I want you to imagine the most extreme perversion you can think of. I can confirm that we’ve seen it," asserts Commander Martineau.

"There is absolutely violence in agencies—coercion, pressure to perform acts the girls don’t want to do," states Alexia, an active escort. "Girls sometimes have to see 10 clients a day. Even five clients a day is way too many," she adds, though she notes that "some women do like working for agencies."

"Agencies often let bad clients come back; they’re known for spending a lot of money, and those clients have power."
Quote from Alexia (a pseudonym for an escort)

Sitting behind the wheel of his Bronco, James tries to be reassuring. "If there’s a problem," he tells Cassandre, "you call the booker." Otherwise, he explains, the building’s security guard "knows there’s an agency here." "Call him if anything comes up.”


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(I’ll include the google-translation of the whole article at the end of this post so that those of you who’d like to place the above in context can do so.)

That section of the article was titled “Violence: Downplayed but Real”. A more accurate title would be “Violence: Infrequent but Real”.

The thing is, none of the quoted escorts in that section are identified as Euphoria or ex-Euphoria escorts. Schué and Deetjens could not find a single sex worker who reported encountering violence while working for the agency. They did find two Euphoria ex-escorts who were willing to speak on the record, Justine and Anne. (Schué and Deetjens make it clear that Anne is no longer an escort. I’m guessing that Justine was not working for Euphoria when she was interviewed.) Justine says something negative about the man who owns Euphoria, but neither she nor Anne report any violence.

So who is quoted in this section about violence? An escort named Lea. She says: "It’s horrible and disgusting, the things you hear”. The things you hear. In other words, she’s never encountered violence herself, but she’s heard that some escorts do sometimes. But not any escorts from Euphoria. (I’m not doubting Lea. I’m sure she has heard some horrible and disgusting stories.)

An “active escort” named Alexia is also quoted — she says: "There is absolutely violence in agencies”. She then goes on to specify what she means by violence: “… coercion, pressure to perform acts the girls don’t want to do…. Girls sometimes have to see 10 clients a day. Even five clients a day is way too many”. Being pressured to perform acts one that doesn’t want to perform is not nice, but does it qualify as violence? And yeah, ten clients a day is definitely too many, but are the escorts in question being forced to see ten clients or do they "have to” for their own financial reasons? For me to believe that that an agency owner is actually forcing an escort to see ten clients a day, I’d want to see that in quotes, and preferably from the escort herself, not from some escort who heard about this from a friend-of-a-friend.

And note that Alexia is not speaking about Euphoria specifically but about some unnamed agencies. If Alexia had named Euphoria as one of those agencies, that would be in the article. There is no reason to believe that Euphoria was forcing anyone to see ten clients per day — or coercing them to perform acts not specified in paragraph eight of the article. (Indeed, there would be no incentive for Euphoria management to do so because, as the article makes clear, Euphoria did not take a cut of the money that their escorts made from “extras”. Remember, at the bottom of this post, the whole English translation of the article is reproduced.)

No other escorts are quoted in that section about violence, but a cop is. He says: "I want you to imagine the most extreme perversion you can think of. I can confirm that we’ve seen it”. That’s a lie — he’s a cop. He wouldn’t have been present for those acts of “extreme perversion” — he would not have seen them. And note how he phrases that: not “I have seen it”, but “we have seen it”. He’s talking about stories he’s heard second-hand from fellow cops. How many stories of “extreme perversion” has he personally heard from the mouths of sex-workers? Based on the way he’s constructed his statement, the number could be zero. He might be talking about a handful of cases that happened over the course of decades. This is hardly proof that the clients of Montreal escorts are a particularly violent bunch, let alone the clients of Euphoria (which he doesn’t mention, although Schué or Deetjens must have asked him about Euphoria).

That section about violence starts off with a list: "Choking, hanging, forced penetration, physical violence, humiliation: several escorts told Radio-Canada they had been subjected to reprehensible, non-consensual acts”. I don’t doubt that some escorts do encounter stuff like that. Although, I do find myself wondering, what is meant by “hanging”? Is this some form of bondage? That can’t be a common problem for escorts. But that prompts the question, how common is any of this? The sex-worker who I see regularly worked as an independent escort for several years and tells me that she never had a violent client. (She found some of them unpleasant, but that’s a different matter.)

This article is ostensibly about a particular agency, Euphoria. I’m not saying that there was never a client who was violent with an escort from Euphoria, but the bottom line is, Schué and Deetjens failed to tie Euphoria to any sort of violence. Maybe Euphoria had a great screening system — I think it’s just more likely that violence isn’t as common for the average escort as outsiders assume it is. Schué and Deetjens let that assumption do the work for them. They knew that if they wrote some stuff about violence in this article about Euphoria, readers would conflate violence with Euphoria.

Schué and Deetjens are scum. I’m sure that they accurately quoted their sources, but they framed things to imply a lie.

Having gone into this much depth, I might as well address the other negative part of the article:

Despite this seemingly benign image, "James takes advantage of young women, and we had to hand over the money by putting it in a drawer in the apartment," says Justine*—a pseudonym for an escort recruited by Euphoria a few years ago. "It’s about power dynamics. All pimps have a need for control.”

Justine claims that James Toth (the owner of Euphoria) “takes advantage of young women”. How? That’s not specified. My guess is the obvious: he makes money from them. If anything more were meant, it would have been made clear.

Justine says that “It’s about power dynamics. All pimps have a need for control.” In her interview with Schué and Deetjens, did Justine explain what she meant by that? How did Toth exercise his power and control the escorts? Schué and Deetjens must have asked, but apparently the answer wasn’t nefarious enough to quote.

In the above post, I’m only analyzing what was in the Radio-Canada article. If any of you have reason to believe that Euphoria’s screening system was bad and that escorts who worked there were more at risk of violence than other escorts are, please don’t hesitate to correct me.

By the way, according to a post on MERB by someone going by the handle 2fast2slow, Euphoria "have not been shut down by the police, they voluntarily shut down after the media report.” I’m assuming the media report is the Radio-Canada article. So it appears that Haggy64 got that wrong.

The rest of this post is the English translation of the whole Schué and Deetjens Radio-Canada article that Google provided me with. (Enquête seems to be an investigative division of Radio-Canada.)

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"How many clients do you want a day?": Going undercover in the world of escorts

Enquête went undercover at one of Montreal’s major high-end escort agencies. It was an unprecedented look into a typically opaque industry that prioritizes discretion—despite the violence many escorts endure.

Romain Schué
Michael Deetjens
October 8, 2026

"You don't deal with the client at all." Vaping, the boss of the Euphoria agency doesn't mince words when explaining what to expect. "You show up on time. You make your calls. You leave the money at the end," he says calmly between puffs, the window of his Ford Bronco rolled down.

The man calling himself James thinks he is speaking to a young student named Cassandre—who has just come of age—and is considering working as an escort. "How many clients do you want a day?" asks the English speaker, using nearly flawless French. At his agency, he continues bluntly, the rule is "a minimum of three clients."

He doesn't realize it, but he is actually speaking to a Radio-Canada staff member equipped with a hidden camera, whom he has invited into the passenger seat of his SUV.

"See that entrance there, at number 950? We have nine apartments," he says, pointing to a modern building across from a parking lot in Montreal’s downtown Griffintown neighborhood. "That’s why I wanted to meet you here. We have another one just two blocks west."

Unknowingly, James offers us unprecedented access to the world of escorts—a realm usually shrouded in deep secrecy. He speaks candidly about the operations of his prostitution agency, which has been "open since 2015," even though Canadian law prohibits pimping and the purchase of sexual services.

"We charge clients 280 (dollars) and the girls keep 200," he explains. His cut? "You put the money in an envelope in the room, hide it, and send a photo."

"There are envelopes in the room; you write your name and the amount, then hide it. At the end (of the day), someone comes around and collects from all the rooms."
A quote from James, the boss of the Euphoria agency.

For that price, he reveals, the girls must provide a basic service known as the "GFE" (Girlfriend Experience). This practice, well-known in the industry, always includes "penetration with a condom," unprotected oral sex, and kissing with the client, who "can eat you out," he specifies. "It’s included in the price. And if there are extras, you can charge for them, and that money is yours."

Throughout the conversation, which lasts nearly an hour, James aims to be reassuring. His scheme is simple, he explains to Cassandre: escort ads are posted online "every day," and interested clients contact a "booker"—via a generic phone number—who handles logistics and appointments.

"You don't have to deal with any of that," insists the 49-year-old man, a prominent figure in Montreal’s escort scene.

"We vet (every client).”

His real name is James Toth. Aside from a few traffic-related offenses, he has never faced legal trouble and did not respond to requests for comment from Radio-Canada.

His stated occupation varies depending on the documents we reviewed; he sometimes describes himself as a "graphic designer," "accountant," "trainer," or even a "recruiter," rather than the boss of one of Montreal’s best-known escort networks.

James is, in fact, very hands-on in managing his agency. He posts daily ads highlighting his employees' availability on a popular online forum for clients, who do not hesitate to rate the escorts' performance during intimate encounters.

His name also frequently appears on various platforms used by foreigners visiting Quebec for sex tourism.

"We have a lot of regulars. People tell their friends... After 10 or 11 years, we’ve built a pretty busy agency."
— A quote from James, the owner of the Euphoria agency

Despite this seemingly benign image, "James takes advantage of young women, and we had to hand over the money by putting it in a drawer in the apartment," says Justine*—a pseudonym for an escort recruited by Euphoria a few years ago. "It’s about power dynamics. All pimps have a need for control.”

"He even keeps a file with clients' names and numbers," says Anne, a former escort who also worked with Euphoria.

"We verify every phone number, every new (client)," confirms the agency boss during the undercover investigation conducted by *Enquête*. "We keep notes on all clients," he adds, advising Cassandre to pass "all (her) comments on (to) the booker."

Businessmen, doctors, lawyers, and "celebrities"

But who are the clients of these agencies that have proliferated in Montreal in recent years? "Businessmen, tourists," James answers Cassandre matter-of-factly.

To gain insight into the inner workings of this opaque industry, we spoke with about twenty escorts or former sex workers who had worked for various agencies. They requested anonymity for safety reasons.

Prostitution: what is prohibited

Since 2014, new provisions regarding prostitution have been in effect under Canadian law. Individuals who sell their own sexual services now have immunity. However, under the Criminal Code, procuring (pimping) is prohibited, as are:

• Purchasing sexual services;

• Advertising the sexual services of a third party;

• Benefiting materially from the provision of sexual services by a third party.

Our findings indicate that these networks, which promote so-called "luxury" prostitution, primarily target a wealthy clientele. "You pay a premium for discretion," sums up a former booking agent.

"I only had wealthy clients—men who wanted to be sugar daddies," recounts Justine, looking sad as she sits on a bench in a Montreal park. "They could be professors, lawyers, doctors, or nurses. If they have money, that’s all that matters," notes Anne.

During our investigation, we also heard the names of prominent figures in Quebec’s cultural scene who are known to spend large sums on sexual services.

"I’ve had clients who are on TV—actual celebrities."
Quote from Anne, a former escort

"I’ve heard from victims who said their clients included police officers, judges, and business executives," notes Commander Frédéric Martineau, head of the sexual exploitation unit at the SPVM (Montreal police).

His team is focusing on the proliferation of these websites and this "2.0 model" of prostitution, which allows "lazy pimps to place their victims with agencies," explains Martineau.

"The landscape is changing, whether in terms of recruitment or the commodification of sexual services. It has evolved into a 2.0 model."
Quote from Frédéric Martineau, head of the sexual exploitation unit at the SPVM

"Street prostitution has all but disappeared. Everything happens online now, through specialized sites for selling sexual services," he adds. "But the horror stories are never talked about," notes Commander Martineau. "The aesthetic of these sites suggests something luxurious. Yet, in the end, these people find themselves exploited and subjected to sexual abuse. But that is the dark side that goes unspoken.”

Violence: Downplayed but Real

Choking, hanging, forced penetration, physical violence, humiliation: several escorts told Radio-Canada they had been subjected to reprehensible, non-consensual acts while working for various agencies—particularly when clients demanded so-called "extras."

"It’s horrible and disgusting, the things you hear," admits Léa, an escort in her twenties, her voice tight with emotion.

"Clients think they can do whatever they want and say, 'I’m paying, so she has to give me what I want.'"
Quote from Léa (a pseudonym for an escort)

"I want you to imagine the most extreme perversion you can think of. I can confirm that we’ve seen it," asserts Commander Martineau.

"There is absolutely violence in agencies—coercion, pressure to perform acts the girls don’t want to do," states Alexia, an active escort. "Girls sometimes have to see 10 clients a day. Even five clients a day is way too many," she adds, though she notes that "some women do like working for agencies."

"Agencies often let bad clients come back; they’re known for spending a lot of money, and those clients have power."
Quote from Alexia (a pseudonym for an escort)

Sitting behind the wheel of his Bronco, James tries to be reassuring. "If there’s a problem," he tells Cassandre, "you call the booker." Otherwise, he explains, the building’s security guard "knows there’s an agency here." "Call him if anything comes up.”

"Police officers as clients"

Last winter, the SPVM dismantled the XO agency, one of Euphoria’s competitors. According to court documents, the agency allegedly hired a minor, and drugs were also exchanged between clients and escorts.

The ringleader of XO and several associates were arrested and charged with offenses related to procuring. Despite these legal proceedings, Radio-Canada learned that one of XO’s bookers quietly opened a new escort agency, which is once again fully operational in downtown Montreal.

Do these agencies fear law enforcement? We put the question to James Toth, the owner of Euphoria, via text message, just after he had followed up with the Enquête reporter to see if she finally wanted to work for him.

"Not at all," he replied instantly. "A few times, girls have told me they had a client who works as a police officer," he stated in the text exchange. "If we stay legit and follow the rules, they leave us alone."

"The police don't want to shut down the agencies. If they did, the girls wouldn't stop working, and it would be more dangerous for them—dealing with bad clients and street-gang pimps."
— Quote from James, the owner of Euphoria, in a text message

We presented these comments to the SPVM. Commander Martineau acknowledged that these activities are illegal but noted that "priorities must be set."

"We have open investigations," he warned, "but we prioritize cases involving victims and urgent situations. However, the police have a long memory."

*The names of the escorts mentioned in this report have been changed to protect their identities.

In collaboration with Pier-Luc Latulippe

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Thanks for the detailed perspective and clarification. I was just posting what I was told by an ex Euphoria SP.😊
 
I haven’t read the whole thread about Euphoria over on MERB, but I did read some of it, and an exchange between the escorts Jaelynever and Lunaseraphim is (in my opinion) worth reading, so I’m reproducing it below.

My long post above could be seen as dismissing or minimizing the abuse and violence that escorts do encounter at agencies. Getting their perspective on this issue is important, and they know what’s going on in the Montreal scene in a way that I certainly don’t.

I intended my post to highlight the poor quality of the journalism in that Radio-Canada piece. These reporters are not our friends. As Jaelynever points out: "the way that this story is being told {in the mainstream media} is unfair to the very people that it is claiming to want to protect. It is clear that they want to outlaw the industry entirely, and if that end is not reached {…} they will push for legalization.” Jaelynever then concludes with her opinion of legalization (which I agree with).

I hope that Jaelynever and @lunaseraphim don’t mind me presenting these posts over here on TERB.

First, this is Jaelynever’s:

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In all my time at XO, I had only 2 experiences where a client was forceful/ignorant of my personhood to the point that I would call it assault of some kind, and the worse one was perfectly normal except for the moment I realized he had stealthed me. I showed him the proof in my hand and he seemed more uncomfortable that I had noticed than anything else. I asked if he had any way to compensate me for what he had done and he looked at me kind of uselessly, and quickly left. I let them know right away what had happened, and I never saw that client again, he was blacklisted. The security contact I had for that time was extremely attentive... whenever there was any issue, I was asked what I wanted to do. At that time I believe I requested an hour to recuperate but that I wanted to finish my day.

Before this, when I worked for xxxtase, an outcall agency (at that time at least), I was often dropped off with no information about the client, and even told things like "this guy will try to stealth you, but he will leave a great review-- try to please him". The driver I met when I had initiated contact with them creeped me out, and I later learned that that driver regularly assaulted several of the workers. From the start, the owner targeted me with attempted grooming-- I was 20 at this time iirc-- he wanted me to move in with him, and he was telling me all the typical lovebomber shit. Eventually he was the one driving me everywhere, and insisted to drop me off at my home address EOD. I gave him an address a block away, and when he parked the car, he would not unlock the doors. He coerced me mentally and physically in that car, refusing to take no for an answer, and I left with an STD. When I messaged him the following week, he said it was impossible for him to have given it to me because he is "immune", and additionally that because I was infected, I could no longer work, ever again... not at that agency or anywhere else in the industry... and he then gave me the option of living with him instead. Of course, I was treated at a clinic and did not return to work for that agency ever again. I ended up reaching out to several girls to warn them, and got those stories of the drivers I mentioned in return. I was collecting testimony for some time, knowing that the way they were operating was predatory, but the agency changed hands and I lost track of that owner. I checked up on this a few times and heard that things had changed for the better, so I let it be.

I kept in contact with some clients I had met through xxxtase, and the one that I took up a regular thing with eventually violently assaulted me after about a year of weird and coercive behaviour that I put up with, because my priority was supporting myself. He had also set me up with a job before this that was supposed to be legitimate, but when I got there I realized I was not being paid normally despite making a normal application, and that essentially if he were not at work to demand sexual favors, I had no hours. He also withheld my legitimately earned pay by demanding video calls before deposit (obviously, these were sexual in nature). Coercion and manipulation all the way down, his life was built on it! Luckily he was not in the office much, and I got to witness that his entire staff hated him and would joke about his negative qualities almost every time he left the room. An intern (through some schooling program) I made friends with there told me in confidence that she had uncovered a lot of shady stuff about how he was managing his money-- shell companies with fake employee photos, legal documents about tax fraud and moving money across borders, etc. That was a violent **** rape in which I clearly and consistenty made my lack of consent extremely clear, and was physically unable to move myself under the weight of his body. He injured me to the point that I could not work normally, and I was so messed up about it that I just took the first legal job I could without immediately seeking treatment, to my own detriment. I was isolated at that time and had few options, and the options for support in this industry are difficut to navigate. The ones that are easy to access seem to be anti-sw and push for exit, which I did not want or want to deal with. To this day that loser rapist hated by all his staff and, before my eyes, every woman he attempted to start a relationship with while he was still seeing me, still sends me texts on holidays, random good morning texts, along with randomly pleading for me to respond, etc..

I have always approached this industry with the mindset that I am a worker first and foremost, and that the agencies are organizations which I am hiring to manage the scheduling and admin work I have no interest in doing myself.

Every agency is different, and so too is every worker and client. Each encounter is nuanced by several factors...
- The agency's style of customer service (priority of workers versus clientelle), further mediated by industry standards and which booker you are working with on a given day.
- The worker's perspective, experience, boundaries and ability to communicate such, along with their judgement (aka essentially their threshold for when behaviour of others is recieved as rude, coercive, or outright abusive and unacceptable.)
- The client's perspective, experience, desires and ability to communicate such properly, along with their judgement of their own behaviour. This one is more difficult to sum up for me personally, but communication is a big problem with this group in general. Maybe the main thing is that this group contains some % of people who hold meeting their expectations at a higher level of importance than do they themselves take responsibility to get those expectations met.

Bad clients often get in their own way, and I have had many appointments where the interaction was clearly becoming hostile, where I had to use de-escalation skills to regulate them into being able to actually communicate with me, without seeing my personhood as an obstacle to sex, and while being mindful of the toxic masculinity shit that comes attached to those expectations, and I always tried to do so professionally, because this is a job I am doing in my workplace. Unfortunately some clients carry resentment around the financial aspect, and this resentment can easily come out when expectations are not met. Despite this, I actually have less stories of assault and sexual coercion in the workplace than do my friends who work in other industries, getting paid minimum wage.

IMO:
Yes, there are people in this industry who target girls for predation. I experienced that firsthand, and these people are a huge problem. That is a fact.
Yes, many people enter this industry without the requisite skills or contextual understanding to navigate it, and this is a huge problem. That is a fact.
Yes, abuse occurs regularly in this industry (and literally every other industry), and the rate of abuse is a huge problem. That is a fact.

However, the way that this story is being told is unfair to the very people that it is claiming to want to protect. It is clear that they want to outlaw the industry entirely, and if that end is not reached (which, come on...) they will push for legalization*. All of this without regard to current workers as more than pawns in their political play, as the people routinely given a voice are those who have exited citing trauma. It's more politically advantageous that way.

Incall agencies are not more or less abusive than outcall, and with regard to my personal experience, I dislike and avoid outcall, as that is where I had the most negative experiences. I did not see either of the organizations that I personally trust to engage with sex workers as human beings with our own autonomy mentioned in any of the stories that have come out so far, and the narrative here is more than obvious.

La Presse said it themselves: "Prostitution has for several years left the street to migrate to the internet..."

They then list exit resources.

*I could go on about this, but my comment is too long already (sorry... I think I got off topic, but I don't want to engage in the discussion here very much, so it is probably my only input). TLDR: the same abuse occurs, in nearly the same exact form under legalization, except the govenment has a guaranteed cut of the profits, and "pimps" are legitimized and given power... NOT the workers, and not the people who are vulnerable. I had a friend work at a ranch in Nevada, and they had to pay rent. The owner knowingly hired too many girls for the client ratio, indebting anyone who was not able to get outside help. This ranch was isolated along a highway and bordered by mountains. They had a girl there who could not even speak English, and could not leave. We helped that girl get in contact with someone who could help her, and my friend was told to leave in the next day or two. I assume the owner monitored internet activity as the ISP owner and saw our online conversations in that instance. Again, the same abuse occurs, in nearly the same exact form under legalization, except the govenment has a guaranteed cut of the profits, and "pimps" are legitimized and given power... NOT the workers, and not the people who are vulnerable.

We want DECRIMINALIZATION.


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Lunaseraphim responds:

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I think what your story proves also is that everyone has a different story and experience to tell. I know people who absolutely experienced abuse of different kinds at XO, but you didn't which is great. I know people who had bad experiences at Euphoria, but I'm sure some have had different experiences. That's why it's important to listen to everyone. I've had really bad experiences at a popular MP before, but I also have colleagues who loved working there.

Personally after reading April Killian's article and after having a conversation with a friend and colleague, I'm realizing that Merb isn't the right place to talk about our rights, because it's dominated by clients and it's an advertising space. I think this is better discussed among colleagues and other people who are behind the scenes.

It's not the first time that this type of discussion occurs here on this forum, and a lot of what comes out of it isn't pretty or respectful. "it's civilian women's fault" "feminists are horrible, women go to university and then they want to ruin our fun" "abuse doesn't exist, these girls are liars" "it's their fault and they should experience the consequences of their actions instead of talking about what they went through" .. I see how it is. We see how you think here, and if this forum becomes more known in the public eye, it just doesn't look good.


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Here’s a link to the relevant page:

 
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Euphoria had some stellar talent over the years. Looks like they had been under the radar of Montreal vice going all the way back to 2017 with allegations of underage girls working there.
 
Did you read this! " La femme accepte les conditions. Le lendemain, elle se présente dans un condo d’un immeuble de la rue Saint-Antoine Ouest et commence à recevoir des clients. Mais après le troisième, elle appelle le responsable, lui dit qu’elle ne se sent pas bien et met fin abruptement à sa journée de travail. Elle ne reviendra pas.
--> The undercover saw three clients! I'd love to fuck a hot cop! Crazy. that is my Montréal !

Bien sur il faut qu’elle est une belle femme
 
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The issue seems to be the trafficking and pimping side of things. Those elements of the industry should not exist, of course. Keep things more discrete in Toronto and all should be well.
 
All of that has been going on with these agencies with incall operation closures in Montreal. That is two already in one year. I don't know but this may sound like agencies at war with each other trying to eliminate the competition. Just too much inner working situations.
 
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is there a current SP civil war in Montreal?
 
Montreal always had very nice ladies. French chicks are hot. I remember Mr Jacques agency.
To me peak Montreal hobby scene was 2002 to 2010. That was when the HDH market existed. I came into the Montreal hobby scene in 2004 and it was a life changing experience after discovering that spreadsheet. It was like being hit with an emotional truck also served as a quick crash course in women without losing my soul and becoming bitter in the process. I mean I didn't fall in love and got creepy attached but I would treat it as a temporary "relationship" when we saw each other. I actually did a few dinner dates when we met.
 
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With all the attention in Montreal right now, we will probably start seeing the girls formerly from the agency or other agencies from the area make their way to Ottawa and Toronto, and or further South.
 
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I'm visiting Montreal next weekend and sad to see that Euphoria is gone. I guess it's better to not indulge in incall/outcall while I'm there?
 
I'm visiting Montreal next weekend and sad to see that Euphoria is gone. I guess it's better to not indulge in incall/outcall while I'm there?
As long you stick with outcalls you will be fine. If you have to do incalls best to stick with indies.