It's not OK to use your speakerphone in public. 'It's not all about you'

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I hate when they do that, even in the Doctors waiting room, the receptionist told one to shut it down or leave.


On the subway, in a coffee shop or a checkout line, somebody nearby likely has their phone on full volume.

A bylaw bars anyone on Toronto's transit system from using an audio device without headphones, and the fine is $195. In three years, one person has been ticketed under it, for playing loud music and "ignoring repeated requests to turn it off," Stuart Green, a spokesperson for the Toronto Transit Commission, said in an email to National Post.

The phone in your pocket is also a speaker. Is it rude to use it out loud, and should you say something?

"When you are in a social space, you have a responsibility to be aware of the space where you are and other people around you," said Charles MacPherson, an etiquette expert, butler, and president of Charles MacPherson Associates, a Toronto company that trains domestic staff. On transit, in a library or in a quiet coffee shop, "you have a social responsibility to be aware that it's a quiet space."

But what about less-quiet places, like at a hockey game, where everyone is yelling, or a warehouse floor? "For me, this is black and white," Macpherson said. "Are you being respectful of others or are you being disrespectful?"

Exposing others to your conversations, music or TikTok videos on your phone's speaker is inappropriate, he said, because it interferes with everyone else's enjoyment of the space.

"We tend to be very much a 'me' society… I need to talk to my friend. I have a right to listen to my music. I need to catch up on this program before it gets cut off Netflix and I've got two seasons to go." The issue, he said, is that "there are eight billion people in this world — it's not all about you."

Smartphones themselves are part of the problem, MacPherson said, because they are "designed to absorb you," and people "forget about others because you're so absorbed by what you're doing."

Quiet courtesy policies
The Toronto Transit Commission treats a phone call conducted on speaker phone as a courtesy issue. "What we find is that when our staff reminds customers about the courtesy element, people will comply. There's no question use of speakerphone is annoying for others," Green said.

"We have less tolerance for loud music, as it can prevent customers who rely on audible announcements from hearing them," Green said, adding riders should report it to a staff member or through the SafeTTC app.

Metrolinx, which runs GO Transit in Ontario, told National Post in a statement that it encourages riders to keep "phone conversations short and quiet."

Similarly, Translink, Vancouver's transit system, has a "quiet courtesy" policy, and asks riders to use headphones for calls, music and videos, and keep calls short.

"Fines are not issued for improper use of audio devices alone," a TransLink spokesperson said in an email to National Post. Riders playing loud audio may be asked to lower the volume, and a rider who won't comply could be refused service, "but only in extreme cases," the spokesperson said, adding TransLink does not typically track how often it happens.

How often Canadians use their speakerphones in public is unknown. In Britain, communications regulator Ofcom calls it loudcasting, and in a 2022 survey 46 per cent of people said they watched videos in public without headphones and 45 per cent said they made video calls that way. Eight in 10 people found it annoying, about half said they did nothing about it, and nine per cent asked the person to stop.

MacPherson would not object to no-cellphone signs, such as those in hospital or clinic waiting rooms, where people are sick. "I just think that we need to be respectful of others, but we've kind of forgotten," he said.

At Cineplex, a Guest Code of Conduct posted online and in its theatres bars patrons from "playing audio from a personal device during a screening in a way that disrupts other guests," Michelle Saba, the movie theatre chain's vice-president of communications, said in a statement.

Kill them with kindness
Should you say something to someone blasting their phone? That depends on the situation and how you say it.

On transit, MacPherson said he would let it go if his stop were next, but on a long train ride, speaking up is absolutely fine.

The mistake is how people say it, the etiquette expert said. "You sit there and you sit there and you sit there until eventually you blow and you say something not so polite." His advice is to say something sooner rather than later.

MacPherson said he would lean over and whisper, "I'm sure you don't realize, but I'm just in the seat behind you and it's really loud. Is it possible that you could just hold it down a bit?" That way, you are not calling anyone disrespectful, "even though they are disrespectful," he said.

"Kill them with kindness has always been my mantra on how to deal with them," MacPherson said.

If the person snaps back, MacPherson recommends asking yourself: Is this the hill you want to die on?

"You do have a right to listen to your music or to whatever you're doing, but you don't have a right to do that to the detriment of everyone else around you."


 

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Bravo.👏

People who do this are inconsiderate morons. WHY do this? It’s too much effort to hold your phone to your ear so only you need to listen? Use some fucking common sense and discretion ffs.

The other fun thing is that 100% of people that do this seem to think that you have to tell to communicate on the phone.

It is fun however to chime in on the conversation and offer your opinions and input on their personal communication. I think they not only appreciate this, but are actively seeking our random input.
 

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When cars started to have the blue tooth capability to have your car connected to the phone, a lot of jerks would make calls in traffic screaming and letting everyone else hear their call around them.
 
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I hate when they do that, even in the Doctors waiting room, the receptionist told one to shut it down or leave.


On the subway, in a coffee shop or a checkout line, somebody nearby likely has their phone on full volume.

A bylaw bars anyone on Toronto's transit system from using an audio device without headphones, and the fine is $195. In three years, one person has been ticketed under it, for playing loud music and "ignoring repeated requests to turn it off," Stuart Green, a spokesperson for the Toronto Transit Commission, said in an email to National Post.

The phone in your pocket is also a speaker. Is it rude to use it out loud, and should you say something?

"When you are in a social space, you have a responsibility to be aware of the space where you are and other people around you," said Charles MacPherson, an etiquette expert, butler, and president of Charles MacPherson Associates, a Toronto company that trains domestic staff. On transit, in a library or in a quiet coffee shop, "you have a social responsibility to be aware that it's a quiet space."

But what about less-quiet places, like at a hockey game, where everyone is yelling, or a warehouse floor? "For me, this is black and white," Macpherson said. "Are you being respectful of others or are you being disrespectful?"

Exposing others to your conversations, music or TikTok videos on your phone's speaker is inappropriate, he said, because it interferes with everyone else's enjoyment of the space.

"We tend to be very much a 'me' society… I need to talk to my friend. I have a right to listen to my music. I need to catch up on this program before it gets cut off Netflix and I've got two seasons to go." The issue, he said, is that "there are eight billion people in this world — it's not all about you."

Smartphones themselves are part of the problem, MacPherson said, because they are "designed to absorb you," and people "forget about others because you're so absorbed by what you're doing."

Quiet courtesy policies
The Toronto Transit Commission treats a phone call conducted on speaker phone as a courtesy issue. "What we find is that when our staff reminds customers about the courtesy element, people will comply. There's no question use of speakerphone is annoying for others," Green said.

"We have less tolerance for loud music, as it can prevent customers who rely on audible announcements from hearing them," Green said, adding riders should report it to a staff member or through the SafeTTC app.

Metrolinx, which runs GO Transit in Ontario, told National Post in a statement that it encourages riders to keep "phone conversations short and quiet."

Similarly, Translink, Vancouver's transit system, has a "quiet courtesy" policy, and asks riders to use headphones for calls, music and videos, and keep calls short.

"Fines are not issued for improper use of audio devices alone," a TransLink spokesperson said in an email to National Post. Riders playing loud audio may be asked to lower the volume, and a rider who won't comply could be refused service, "but only in extreme cases," the spokesperson said, adding TransLink does not typically track how often it happens.

How often Canadians use their speakerphones in public is unknown. In Britain, communications regulator Ofcom calls it loudcasting, and in a 2022 survey 46 per cent of people said they watched videos in public without headphones and 45 per cent said they made video calls that way. Eight in 10 people found it annoying, about half said they did nothing about it, and nine per cent asked the person to stop.

MacPherson would not object to no-cellphone signs, such as those in hospital or clinic waiting rooms, where people are sick. "I just think that we need to be respectful of others, but we've kind of forgotten," he said.

At Cineplex, a Guest Code of Conduct posted online and in its theatres bars patrons from "playing audio from a personal device during a screening in a way that disrupts other guests," Michelle Saba, the movie theatre chain's vice-president of communications, said in a statement.

Kill them with kindness
Should you say something to someone blasting their phone? That depends on the situation and how you say it.

On transit, MacPherson said he would let it go if his stop were next, but on a long train ride, speaking up is absolutely fine.

The mistake is how people say it, the etiquette expert said. "You sit there and you sit there and you sit there until eventually you blow and you say something not so polite." His advice is to say something sooner rather than later.

MacPherson said he would lean over and whisper, "I'm sure you don't realize, but I'm just in the seat behind you and it's really loud. Is it possible that you could just hold it down a bit?" That way, you are not calling anyone disrespectful, "even though they are disrespectful," he said.

"Kill them with kindness has always been my mantra on how to deal with them," MacPherson said.

If the person snaps back, MacPherson recommends asking yourself: Is this the hill you want to die on?

"You do have a right to listen to your music or to whatever you're doing, but you don't have a right to do that to the detriment of everyone else around you."


I agree with everything except the conversations part. What is the difference if that person were sitting next someone having a conversation, or they are talking to that person over speaker phone? Would you turn to a couple having a convo in public and say "Its not all about you?".
 

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I agree with everything except the conversations part. What is the difference if that person were sitting next someone having a conversation, or they are talking to that person over speaker phone? Would you turn to a couple having a convo in public and say "Its not all about you?".
Except in public, two people engaged in a conversation aren't shouting at each other because the tech is shit and one person needs volume at 11 to hear and in turn needs to scream into the device, so the other can hear. Together, "most people" talk in normal tones that blend into the other ambient noises. Sure some are a little more animated, but it's not as harsh and annoying as fuck!
 
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I just love the ones who are talking to their SO on speaker. My female friend or I usually just yell out "Honey come back to bed, I'm ready for round two!"

They usually shut the speaker off shortly after that.
 
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Except in public, two people engaged in a conversation aren't shouting at each other because the tech is shit and one person needs volume at 11 to hear and in turn needs to scream into the device, so the other can hear. Together, "most people" talk in normal tones that blend into the other ambient noises. Sure some are a little more animated, but it's not as harsh and annoying as fuck!
Exactly and a lot of the time most people will talk in an even quieter tone so as to not bother anyone, usually you see them conversing but not hearing it because they're considerate enough to not shout at each other. Unlike people yelling on the phone
 
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People who talk on speaker 1. Yell loudly. For some reason they don’t know that the other person can hear them without yelling 2. Crank the volume up very high. Because they don’t have the phone right next to their ear, and need to compete with the ambient noise. A phone speaker also has a terrible, trebly ice pick like tone that is incredibly annoying and disruptive.
when people talk on the phone e held to the ear, others cannot hear the second person, and most people tend to talk quietly. For some reason on speaker, FaceTime to video chats, people need to yell.

If you need to make a call in public, do it with the phone to your ear, and speak quietly. Also make your call brief and to the point. If I want to have a personal conversation I seek private space. A couple weeks ago at the airport bar, a guy next to me at the bar was having a speaker conversation / argument with his wife / gf and was absolutely getting shat on beyond belief. She was destroying him, and it sounded like they might be in fact ending the relationship at that moment. I got to enjoy all of this. In fact, had I not been so annoyed at the complete rudeness of his behaviour, I would have bought him a drink because I felt so sorry for him.
 

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I hate this yet it puzzles me at the same time.

I thought that Beats, airpods etc. were these big status symbols? And you get better sound quality using headphones and earbuds.
 

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It really hate when people do this. It is so rude and disruptive.
Of course, you say anything and you are the asshloe. I think manners and respect are declining quickly.
Very sad.
 
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