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POLL: How much does the SP's pleasure factor into your visit?

POLL: How much does the SP's pleasure factor into your visit?

  • Very little — I'm primarily there for my own satisfaction..

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    56
  • Poll closed .
The people that dont care about my pleasure generally dont take direction and do stupid stuff like slap my back instead of my ass, keep fucking even if im reaching for lube. Grab my shoulders or my ass so hard they leave bruises and think I'm having a good time.

I don't care if people make me cum but my god some people are unteachable and the attitude that they dont care is generally the sex that borders on assault.

There is a pocket of clients that have a chip on their shoulder and see me as sub human and they can fuck all the way off.

I don't mind if i'm a pump and dump. That can be a little bit fun. But when someone has absolutely no regard for my comfort or my enjoyment... that's a pretty good sign that they also don't care if i'm being hurt.

Why not just stick with the 2.9% and enjoy the experience? :unsure::unsure::unsure: Put the remaining 7.1% into the same category as the 90%.
 

greensquare

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So the 7.1% of people are just awful at sex compared to the 2.9% I'm assuming? I'm guessing the 7.1% awful people do at least listen to you and don't try to cause harm compared to the rest of the 90%?
 

massman

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The people that dont care about my pleasure generally dont take direction and do stupid stuff like slap my back instead of my ass, keep fucking even if im reaching for lube. Grab my shoulders or my ass so hard they leave bruises and think I'm having a good time.

I don't care if people make me cum but my god some people are unteachable and the attitude that they dont care is generally the sex that borders on assault.

There is a pocket of clients that have a chip on their shoulder and see me as sub human and they can fuck all the way off.

I don't mind if i'm a pump and dump. That can be a little bit fun. But when someone has absolutely no regard for my comfort or my enjoyment... that's a pretty good sign that they also don't care if i'm being hurt.
Unfortunately many guys “learn” about sex from porn, which is becoming increasingly abusive / violent (face slapping, slapping breasts, choking,forceful ff etc…) and they think that is cool with women, and also have watched so much of this type of porn that it has fetishized this type of sexual activity, which should only (if ever) be done in a situation where it has been discussed prior, and explicit consent obtained.

Sure, I’ve had girls (civilian and pro) ask me to
pull their hair, grab their throat or smack their butt, but I would never think I had permission to do otherwise (and furthermore, these acts do nothing to turn me on, I’m only turned on by the fact that she is and she wants it and asks for it).
 
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So the ninety percent of people i'm talking about... are people that get filtered out simply because they can't control themselves through text. They never even get to book an appointment.

The remaining people are generally pretty good.

The number of people that I see are generally awesome bt there's a small number of people that are terrible.

I'm assuming that's the 7.1 percent of people that thinks that my pleasure or even basic comfort don't play into their session.

There are people that have a general attitude that they don't need to ask permission or they don't need to follow restrictions. They do whatever they want, regardless of how I feel, or if i'm being hurt.

I'm glad they outed themselves in this poll.

The only thing I could compare it to is someone giving you a blow job with teeth... and when you ask them not to, they continue to do it... because they think they can do whatever they want, because they paid for the hour.

No other person would tolerate that in a million years so theyre only people that can have sex with sex workers and instead of taking basic instructions that will help them in their personal lives they just keep giving blowjobs with teeth and then they continue to wonder why they have to pay for it and resent sex workers.

The only thing I could possibly compare it to is, imagine you had like an average looking person who wanted to have sex with you on a regular basis. That person insist on giving you a bj all the time giving teeth. No matter how much your redirect or tell them to stop using their teeth, they keep doing it. Maybe she pinches you for some reason or does something equally stupid or annoying. No matter how much you redirect or try to teach them not to they insist on doing it their way even though their way is ridiculous.

No normal man would get a BJ from this person who gives straight teeth so they keeping coming back to you and insisting on more toothy blowjobs.

You tell them you would like to see them again...but you can't handle the bj with teeth. They insist they like it and want to continue doing it their way even though you tell them it hurts. Maybe they pull your forskin back and tear your skin everytime... but they don't care about how you feel, so they're not open to direction.

Maybe you see them again and try to convince them there's a better way... or you just walk away.

You wouldn't see a woman who uses her teeth for a blowjob or rips your foreskin everytime... but these people that dont care how a woman feels keep repeating with women until women ultimately tell them to fuck off.

They are unteachable.

I have a few clients ive had to tell to kick rocks, theyre so bad at sex its like torture having sex with them.

maybe they come back willing to learn or maybe they move on.

either way. Im not being abused for an hour because someone feels entitled to it.


So the 7.1% of people are just awful at sex compared to the 2.9% I'm assuming? I'm guessing the 7.1% awful people do at least listen to you and don't try to cause harm compared to the rest of the 90%?
 
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The people that dont care about my pleasure generally dont take direction and do stupid stuff like slap my back instead of my ass, keep fucking even if im reaching for lube. Grab my shoulders or my ass so hard they leave bruises and think I'm having a good time.

I don't care if people make me cum but my god some people are unteachable and the attitude that they dont care is generally the sex that borders on assault.

There is a pocket of clients that have a chip on their shoulder and see me as sub human and they can fuck all the way off.

I don't mind if i'm a pump and dump. That can be a little bit fun. But when someone has absolutely no regard for my comfort or my enjoyment... that's a pretty good sign that they also don't care if i'm being hurt.
That's not what we mean when we say we don't care about your pleasure. I don't do anything the escort is openly uncomfortable with. If she tells me not to grab too hard or do a certain thing I won't. What I mean is all else considered, I'm just there to do what I want, whether she enjoys it or not is irrelevant. She may want me to eat her out for example, but I'm not doing that if I don't want to.
 
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That's really common for people to do things. Without my permission, but there's other things like digging at my pussy like theyre trying to find change in their pocket with long fingernails and rubbing my pussy with their fingernails. That's my most common complaint. Most people take direction well, but then they get offended that I have to give them direction.

So while I don't care if people make me cum... I care if people are actively hurting me.

Unfortunately many guys “learn” about sex from porn, which is becoming increasingly abusive / violent (face slapping, slapping breasts, choking,forceful ff etc…) and they think that is cool with women, and also have watched so much of this type of porn that it has fetishized this type of sexual activity, which should only (if ever) be done in a situation where it has been discussed prior, and explicit consent obtained.

Sure, I’ve had girls (civilian and pro) ask me to
pull their hair, grab their throat or smack their butt, but I would never think I had permission to do otherwise (and furthermore, these acts do nothing to turn me on, I’m only turned on by the fact that she is and she wants it and asks for it).
 

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The default in sex should be gentle (those of my vintage will remember the Sunday night sex show with Sue Johannsen where she always said “gently Bentley). If you are going to initiate something, it should be done gently. If you are asked to do it more vigorously, then go ahead. As for scratching with nails etc, guys should consider whether they’d like a prostate exam by someone with long scratchy nails, or scratching of the inside of their mouth?

As I said above, the fetishization of violence in porn is a huge problem, which is further exacerbated by a generation of men that has progressively less experience interacting with women. I’m lucky in a way that I had to learn about sex 40 years ago by doing it with real girls, with trial and error and focusing on mutual enjoyment. That led to being not only satisfied but thrilled and ecstatic that some girl wanted to have total vanilla missionary sex with you, without the requirement of “finger banging” gagging on a cock, “pounding”, “pile driving”, gonzo anal / gaping or slapping.
 

greensquare

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It's a shame what porn has done to the minds. I watched porn as a teen often, early 2000s. When I finally started seeing ladies I always went slow and soft unless they asked. It's weird how some men may not understand that. If the lady says harder then I will. The BJ teeth thing is extremely annoying. I gave a SP a chance twice or 3 times when she did it the first time and even mentioned it but she didn't listen or understand compared to other ladies I've seen who've done an amazing job.

The fingering with long nails I've heard of. I always make sure my nails are cut the day before and start slow too.
 
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I had a heart to heart with one of my faves a couple months ago. Been seeing her for years and we really consider each other good friends. Turns out I had a thing I did that really bothered her and she finally had to say something. We had a great sessions, we went out for lunch, we were back at her incall and I was sitting in her car talking. She says "I need to say something. First off, you know I love you going down on me, you do it great and no word of a lie, you get me off every single time, no bullshit. But, you know when I'm done, I'm very sensitive and I don't want to be touched anywhere around my vagina. I like it in that afterglow when you stay between my legs, you kiss my thighs, massage my hips or stomach with your hands. But you will quite often after a minute put your tongue back on my clit, and I don't like it and you know I don't like it, but you do it all the time. So why do you do that when you know it's not something I want you to do?"

I was actually taken aback at how upset she was, at first. I care for this girl a lot and like to think I'm doing as much as I can for her as I do for me, and it upset me that I upset her. I said I think it's something I subconsciously do because I don't knowingly set out to do something she doesn't want me to. And she is right, I know she doesn't like that. We talked about it before, I asked her one night, and she agreed, to let me try how I do daty on someone else who reacts really positively to it. I said I know everyone is different in their likes but you never know until you try, so she let me do it that way, and she didn't like it. So I agreed that I wouldn't do that. And here I was all this time doing this thing that she didn't like and more than her not liking it was her knowing I knew she didn't like it and I did it anyway, so she was questioning me. It was eye opening and I've made sure in subsequent playdates that I didn't let my tongue drift too close after she cums.
 

massman

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I had a heart to heart with one of my faves a couple months ago. Been seeing her for years and we really consider each other good friends. Turns out I had a thing I did that really bothered her and she finally had to say something. We had a great sessions, we went out for lunch, we were back at her incall and I was sitting in her car talking. She says "I need to say something. First off, you know I love you going down on me, you do it great and no word of a lie, you get me off every single time, no bullshit. But, you know when I'm done, I'm very sensitive and I don't want to be touched anywhere around my vagina. I like it in that afterglow when you stay between my legs, you kiss my thighs, massage my hips or stomach with your hands. But you will quite often after a minute put your tongue back on my clit, and I don't like it and you know I don't like it, but you do it all the time. So why do you do that when you know it's not something I want you to do?"

I was actually taken aback at how upset she was, at first. I care for this girl a lot and like to think I'm doing as much as I can for her as I do for me, and it upset me that I upset her. I said I think it's something I subconsciously do because I don't knowingly set out to do something she doesn't want me to. And she is right, I know she doesn't like that. We talked about it before, I asked her one night, and she agreed, to let me try how I do daty on someone else who reacts really positively to it. I said I know everyone is different in their likes but you never know until you try, so she let me do it that way, and she didn't like it. So I agreed that I wouldn't do that. And here I was all this time doing this thing that she didn't like and more than her not liking it was her knowing I knew she didn't like it and I did it anyway, so she was questioning me. It was eye opening and I've made sure in subsequent playdates that I didn't let my tongue drift too close after she cums.
Good example. Some girls like the stimulation to continue so they can ride that orgasmic wave for longer, while for others it’s very unpleasant. Some girls like intense clit stimulation, including sucking it, and others like it to be just softly licked. I had a similar experience a while ago where I was with someone for a while who really got off on more intense stimulation and clit sucking, and later used same technique on a different girl (cuz I felt I was low a total pro pussy eater as I could give that last girl an orgasm within minutes, and multiple times) and she quickly said “wtf are you doing, that’s wayyyy too much!”
 

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Honestly most girls I banged love when I bang them . I don't go rough like in porn and high speed. I am pretty intimate. Slow and deep and change pace and don't pump like a freight train. Sometimes I'll speed up fast for a few seconds and back to slow. I actually prefer to fuck with intimacy because it makes it better for me too. Kissing her body from top to bottom while slowly pumping her. The fast porn style fucking and fast blow jobs are also not something I like. I like my bj slow and deep and intimate. And doing this , I always have a good orgasm and the girl afterwards thanks me for fucking her good .
 
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