Upcharges... but the ridiculous kind.
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Haha right! I do think she meant length but the smarter business woman would use a multiplier of the two and charge by volume
... more per inch ... or less per inch .... I mean, it could go either way.
Ok, thank you for the inside perspective. As a relatively new person, I have a question about how to clarify what is included in whatever.I think the logic is... At least from my perspective...
I think people put you at a higher risk of getting sick. The upcharge would account for days you have to take off from getting sick. Colds, sore throats ect
There are a lot of people who come in and just want a simple, straightforward experience and they honestly shouldn't pay the same as a person that wants a hardcore experience.
If someone describes to me that they want hardcore sex for a long time... its 1 uncomfortable 2 not what most people ask for and 3 more strenuous.
I would much rather have three people wanting a regular experience and relax and have a good time than, one single person that pays more for PSE simply because it sounds like they want to use and abuse me and they don't care if they rip my skin or if they're hurting me. It's generally less common, and I would almost consider it a fetish and fetishes usually pay a premium because there's more time and effort involved.
Getting "pounded" for an hour honestly sounds awful.
I'm much more into foreplay and teasing. Lots of getting people turned on by the act.
PSE generally sounds like some person is just going to do the same thing to me for an hour until I'm raw and tired and questioning raising my rates for everyone.
I think the solution to not having to raise rates for every single person is to charge people who want MORE according to how much time and effort you put in.
People who are looking to "pound" me generally don't care if i'm lubed up, comfortable, having a good time. They don't care if i'm comfortable.
I will consider a more PSE experience and not charge extra if I know the person isn't super demanding or if they genuinely have concern for my comfort. If they just want a few minutes of PSE its not a big deal but an entire hour of it is exhausting.
Guys tend to jump into a situation talking about how they want to do all of these things For an entire hour and it's not a fun experience.
I will break it down using my massage special for example
For my massage I had a special for a long time. I actually like giving massages and I like getting people off. Most people came in with the expectation that they get a massage and a quick something at the end...
Then I started getting these people that just couldnt feel their dick. They were totally desensitized to any touch and I had to jackhammer them for a long time.
These people really made me reconsider, offering a special because they needed to pay a lot more for the services they got and its not fair to everyone else. Honestly, it's not fair for me either. I would be exhausted from these people after and my back would hurt. It really kind of put me in a sour mood for the next appointment and a few of them honestly made me hate what I was doing. Like 95% of people were great. Then those 5% chronic masturbators that probably couldn't feel their cock of you smacked it with a stick really ruin the whole experience for everyone.
Most people aren't looking for a true porn star experience and the definition could really vary from person to person, you might be thinking you want a little deep throat and the last guy wanted to use and abuse someone for an hour.
I love giving massages and I love making people feel good... I hate when people show up and they've clearly jerked off all day before they came and they expect me to really work hard for every minute they're paying me the price I offer to regular folks.
I was trying to cut people some slack and offer a good deal so I could do more of the thing that I love... but there were days that I regretted it especially when I got two of these people in a row.
It honestly feels like after these people you need to recuperate. You need to take a break before your next appointment.
I think there's an aspect of not wanting to do it because it's uncomfortable and it's not a fun experience... but then there's the potential for lost revenue in case you get hurt. There's lost revenue, because you have to take a break after.
Honestly, if I had a couple of appointments and then a PSE experience, I would just take the rest of the day off. I would have to go home and relax and do something nice for myself.
I charge so much money for them people won't pay it and that's the goal.
If you say "no" men have tantrums and beg and won't leave you alone...
If you give them a price they're unwilling to pay they stop asking
Saves time and energy.
Put up or shut up, but sometimes people put up and then i'm stuck doing it lol
I guess to put it more simply would you work harder for the same pay?
Would you be willing to work 2 or 3 times harder for the same amount of pay?
Of course you wouldn't. No one would.
These women are not as excited as you are about it.
Men that can really fuck are a hot commodity... until I set limitations on what i'm willing to provide I was getting hurt all the time. I was taking a lot of time off from getting hurt by people that didn't know what the fuck they were doing.
When I factor in a price for more extreme sex i am factoring in the time that I have to take off because I need to take a break after or because of the probability of me getting hurt.
I had a session with a fairly upscale provider, and she agreed if I wanted to "upgrade to PSE" I asked what that included and she says "everything, except greek" and I said "ok, but what's everything?" And she just says "everything". So I kind of just left it there because it makes me a bit uncomfortable having to be like "ok, what about x or y?" Because what if I think "everything" means slapping or spitting and she thinks it means dirty talk and kissing?
You should just ask for clarification.
Generally, when people know what they want, they can provide a list of things that they want to have happen in a session and a provider either say yes or no.
That being said, if you have a long list of things to ask, it's better to pay them to ask those questions or ask it during a paid session. If you have a session with her and you have a few minutes left in your session, there's no reason why you can't spend the remaining time asking about future sessions. It shows that you're interested in another appointment and it doesn't feel like wasting time.
I personally, get tired of people that send me like twenty messages or more asking what I do and don't do.
People have to either pay for me to go into explicit detail and name everything that I do or they can ask me during a session.
With me, at least people get a few texts to ask questions but if you haven't asked all your questions in two or three texts about a specific thing... It feels like people are just jerking off on the other end and they're never going to book an appointment. Some people get off on just the excitement of even trying to book an appointment.
Potential clients can ask briefly if I offer certain things in one or two messages
If every single person asked me every single thing that I do, one text at a time, all I would do is text people. So short, brief, vague answer can seem like theyre avoiding clarifying but clarifying every detail can get so in depth and be time consuming.
If you have a clear idea of how a session is supposed to go, just ask specifically what you're looking for and if they provide it but don't write a novel.
In the past, I have had people send me videos of what they want to have happen in a session. They have a porn video, they really like, and they want to try all of the things in the video.
I will personally watch a video that a currently client sends me, but if you don't really know her very well send her a little bit of money to engage in the conversation.
Time is money and people asking these questions all day can feel like you're wasting their time.
I have someone specifically who sends me money just to talk about future sessions. We talk about future sessions for months before he books an appointment. He likes that. I wouldn't do it if he wasn't paying me, but I don't mind since he's paying me.
When someone is talking to me too much about a session. I tell them I charge x amount of dollars for texting sessions because... it feels like they're getting off on it.
Generally, when people know what they want, they can provide a list of things that they want to have happen in a session and a provider either say yes or no.
That being said, if you have a long list of things to ask, it's better to pay them to ask those questions or ask it during a paid session. If you have a session with her and you have a few minutes left in your session, there's no reason why you can't spend the remaining time asking about future sessions. It shows that you're interested in another appointment and it doesn't feel like wasting time.
I personally, get tired of people that send me like twenty messages or more asking what I do and don't do.
People have to either pay for me to go into explicit detail and name everything that I do or they can ask me during a session.
With me, at least people get a few texts to ask questions but if you haven't asked all your questions in two or three texts about a specific thing... It feels like people are just jerking off on the other end and they're never going to book an appointment. Some people get off on just the excitement of even trying to book an appointment.
Potential clients can ask briefly if I offer certain things in one or two messages
If every single person asked me every single thing that I do, one text at a time, all I would do is text people. So short, brief, vague answer can seem like theyre avoiding clarifying but clarifying every detail can get so in depth and be time consuming.
If you have a clear idea of how a session is supposed to go, just ask specifically what you're looking for and if they provide it but don't write a novel.
In the past, I have had people send me videos of what they want to have happen in a session. They have a porn video, they really like, and they want to try all of the things in the video.
I will personally watch a video that a currently client sends me, but if you don't really know her very well send her a little bit of money to engage in the conversation.
Time is money and people asking these questions all day can feel like you're wasting their time.
I have someone specifically who sends me money just to talk about future sessions. We talk about future sessions for months before he books an appointment. He likes that. I wouldn't do it if he wasn't paying me, but I don't mind since he's paying me.
When someone is talking to me too much about a session. I tell them I charge x amount of dollars for texting sessions because... it feels like they're getting off on it.
Sounds to me like those women are in the wrong line of work.I've got a couple:
- A lady at one of the popular DT clubs quoted me an extra 150 for dfk, and made very clear during base rate session, she didn't allow being touched or caressed at all.
- Another one at the same club gave me an itemized list of add-ons for things like touching upper part of the body, touching while body, kissing upper part of the body, all of the buddy, etc.
- this other lady at a club on east side would charge extra 80 for bodyslide and there's no touching her (not the intimate parts, just touching / caressing her upper body for example) unless you upgrade to FS.
Piece of advice: always try to contact the ladies through Twitter or text to clarify everything, or at least do a walk-in and don't be shy with what you're looking for. It will save you a lot of headaches.
No man wants to be with a woman who hates men and sex, and clearly wears their disdain for the whole experience on their face, going through the motions just to get the money.
To me I hate the “à la carte” type menu where each act is an extra. To me a basic session should be like a basic civilian session. Kissing (passionate, including tongue, but need not require a detailed lingual examination of her tonsils, and / or gnashing of teeth) fondling, oral and PIV sex. This is what you would do with a Gf, partner or a hookup you met at the bar. Unless of course one of the above is part of her restrictions.
Terms like GFE (which used to refer to what I describe above) and PSE are increasingly useless. To one PSE is multi positions and some DT oral, to another it’s a complete hardcore gonzo session.
Terms like GFE (which used to refer to what I describe above) and PSE are increasingly useless. To one PSE is multi positions and some DT oral, to another it’s a complete hardcore gonzo session.
