Upcharges... but the ridiculous kind.

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I have encountered few, so its not ultra common to me, just wanted to get a feel how much have you seen ridiculous upcharges and if so, is it more lately?

To be clear, not the normal, acceptable ones, such as cim, rim, Greek, all understandble and extra services, lets say. That's standard.

Im talking about upcharge for dfk, when contacting this sp I was excited to see until I saw that... and I was instantly turned off, said not interested politely. Not even an issue about the donation, even with dfk it was reasonable, but what is so special about dfk, that includes pecks, like, kisses, etc? Its not like we are going to lock tongues for 60 min straight...

The other is upcharge for pse, at almost double the donation, which pretty much consist of going down your shaft fully (dt, if), as opposed to 2"...

Please dont name names, if this rings a bell, not my point, just that... some of this is ridiculous to me.

And yes, there's no pushing boundaries here, sp can set rates however she sees fit, no bad feelings, freedom to all, etc, etc... im not trying to start a debate on democracy and freedom of choice.

Just wondering if these are outliers, as i said, 2 times from all sps I've seen/talk to...
 
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I have encountered few, so its not ultra common to me, just wanted to get a feel how much have you seen ridiculous upcharges and if so, is it more lately?

To be clear, not the normal, acceptable ones, such as cim, rim, Greek, all understandble and extra services, lets say. That's standard.

Im talking about upcharge for dfk, when contacting this sp I was excited to see until I saw that... and I was instantly turned off, said not interested politely. Not even an issue about the donation, even with dfk it was reasonable, but what is so special about dfk, that includes pecks, like, kisses, etc? Its not like we are going to lock tongues for 60 min straight...

The other is upcharge for pse, at almost double the donation, which pretty much consist of going down your shaft fully (dp, if), as opposed to 2"...

Please dont name names, if this rings a bell, not my point, just that... some of this is ridiculous to me.

And yes, there's no pushing boundaries here, sp can set rates however she sees fit, no bad feelings, freedom to all, etc, etc... im not trying to start a debate on democracy and freedom of choice.

Just wondering if these are outliers, as i said, 2 times from all sps I've seen/talk to...
From personal experience , dfk up charge means just that DFK- not things like basic and light kissing . I’ve known some providers to do this to mitigate against STI’s as well as not everyone generally likes playing tonsil hockey ahahah. I can understand the frustration - it’s all preference I find!
 

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I've got a couple:
- A lady at one of the popular DT clubs quoted me an extra 150 for dfk, and made very clear during base rate session, she didn't allow being touched or caressed at all.
- Another one at the same club gave me an itemized list of add-ons for things like touching upper part of the body, touching while body, kissing upper part of the body, all of the buddy, etc.
- this other lady at a club on east side would charge extra 80 for bodyslide and there's no touching her (not the intimate parts, just touching / caressing her upper body for example) unless you upgrade to FS.

Piece of advice: always try to contact the ladies through Twitter or text to clarify everything, or at least do a walk-in and don't be shy with what you're looking for. It will save you a lot of headaches.
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💯 wisdom there. Although text and email before X or Bsky (even when texting with a booker which creates its own false representation issues) because many providers are cautious, rightfully so, about verbiage even in DM which could cause them to lose the following they’ve built up. I’ve had above average success using DM as a segue to text or email because the provider or even their booker will be more aware.

I've got a couple:
- A lady at one of the popular DT clubs quoted me an extra 150 for dfk, and made very clear during base rate session, she didn't allow being touched or caressed at all.
- Another one at the same club gave me an itemized list of add-ons for things like touching upper part of the body, touching while body, kissing upper part of the body, all of the buddy, etc.
- this other lady at a club on east side would charge extra 80 for bodyslide and there's no touching her (not the intimate parts, just touching / caressing her upper body for example) unless you upgrade to FS.

Piece of advice: always try to contact the ladies through Twitter or text to clarify everything, or at least do a walk-in and don't be shy with what you're looking for. It will save you a lot of headaches.
🤷
 

daemonhead

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💯 wisdom there. Although text and email before X or Bsky (even when texting with a booker which creates its own false representation issues) because many providers are cautious, rightfully so, about verbiage even in DM which could cause them to lose the following they’ve built up. I’ve had above average success using DM as a segue to text or email because the provider or even their booker will be more aware.
Indeed! Touching base with them via text or DM isn't bulletproof, but most times that not you'll get an idea of the lady's personality. Even if they don't share any details, the way they reply can tell you a lot about how the session is going to be.
 

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I have encountered few, so its not ultra common to me, just wanted to get a feel how much have you seen ridiculous upcharges and if so, is it more lately?

To be clear, not the normal, acceptable ones, such as cim, rim, Greek, all understandble and extra services, lets say. That's standard.

Im talking about upcharge for dfk, when contacting this sp I was excited to see until I saw that... and I was instantly turned off, said not interested politely. Not even an issue about the donation, even with dfk it was reasonable, but what is so special about dfk, that includes pecks, like, kisses, etc? Its not like we are going to lock tongues for 60 min straight...

The other is upcharge for pse, at almost double the donation, which pretty much consist of going down your shaft fully (dp, if), as opposed to 2"...

Please dont name names, if this rings a bell, not my point, just that... some of this is ridiculous to me.

And yes, there's no pushing boundaries here, sp can set rates however she sees fit, no bad feelings, freedom to all, etc, etc... im not trying to start a debate on democracy and freedom of choice.

Just wondering if these are outliers, as i said, 2 times from all sps I've seen/talk to...
I will start off by saying I don't upcharge for DFK although, DFK is Deep French Kissing not simple pecks and kisses.
There are differences between D(deep)FK, L(light)FK and just lip to lip pecks.
I get it though, these nuances in terms can be confusing and people interpret things differently. I also understand why some may charge extra for DFK.

PSE is another term that can be interpreted differently by different people, so it is always best to clarify with your chosen SW.

For some, PSE is an upcharge because it may include services like deepthroat, face fucking, anal, squirting, and/or high-energy fast fucking among other things.
Services like this require extra preparation on the provider's end.

Again, it is best to confirm with your provider so that there are no misunderstanding and so that everyone is happy and if a certain upcharge does not sit well with you, move on to another provider.
 

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I will start off by saying I don't upcharge for DFK although, DFK is Deep French Kissing not simple pecks and kisses.
There are differences between D(deep)FK, L(light)FK and just lip to lip pecks.
I get it though, these nuances in terms can be confusing and people interpret things differently. I also understand why some may charge extra for DFK.

PSE is another term that can be interpreted differently by different people, so it is always best to clarify with your chosen SW.

For some, PSE is an upcharge because it may include services like deepthroat, face fucking, anal, squirting, and/or high-energy fast fucking among other things.
Services like this require extra preparation on the provider's end.

Again, it is best to confirm with your provider so that there are no misunderstanding and so that everyone is happy and if a certain upcharge does not sit well with you, move on to another provider.
No disagreement, just clarifying myself...

I guess i find these things so banal/basic/obvious that dfk is not something extra to warrant an upcharge...

Though different, dfk/lfk/pecks, dfk would include all 3, so nobody is playing tonsil hockey for 60 min, to quote ari from above, as we are not teenagers...

And I guess im bit old school, and despite the nature of these affairs, sps dont like to treated like meat/objects, and believe it or not, neither do I (the appropriate equvalent would be an atm)... so kissing, passion, caressing, touching all makes things more intimate, thus kissing to me is not a special thing. Connection, even a little, even superficial, matters... But to each their own, sure...

I agree that pse/gfe mean very wildly different things to different people, so much that the terms mean almost nothing at this point...

I suppose I prefer a flat donation, for xyz time, here's a list of do's and donts, and all the mini issues are taken away. We either meet or dont, and all is well...
 
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Back in Oz at a legal brothel the lady told the potential client that "eye contact was extra $".
One lady quoted $500 for dato. Then if you become a regular it's free.
A recent lady had $700 for Greek. BTW, I'm OK with ladies charging what they will here. I'd let a bloke Greek me but my upcharge is $80,000. If he has a big one it's $120,000. We all have our price lol.
 
I think the logic is... At least from my perspective...

I think people put you at a higher risk of getting sick. The upcharge would account for days you have to take off from getting sick. Colds, sore throats ect

There are a lot of people who come in and just want a simple, straightforward experience and they honestly shouldn't pay the same as a person that wants a hardcore experience.

If someone describes to me that they want hardcore sex for a long time... its 1 uncomfortable 2 not what most people ask for and 3 more strenuous.

I would much rather have three people wanting a regular experience and relax and have a good time than, one single person that pays more for PSE simply because it sounds like they want to use and abuse me and they don't care if they rip my skin or if they're hurting me. It's generally less common, and I would almost consider it a fetish and fetishes usually pay a premium because there's more time and effort involved.

Getting "pounded" for an hour honestly sounds awful.

I'm much more into foreplay and teasing. Lots of getting people turned on by the act.

PSE generally sounds like some person is just going to do the same thing to me for an hour until I'm raw and tired and questioning raising my rates for everyone.

I think the solution to not having to raise rates for every single person is to charge people who want MORE according to how much time and effort you put in.

People who are looking to "pound" me generally don't care if i'm lubed up, comfortable, having a good time. They don't care if i'm comfortable.

I will consider a more PSE experience and not charge extra if I know the person isn't super demanding or if they genuinely have concern for my comfort. If they just want a few minutes of PSE its not a big deal but an entire hour of it is exhausting.

Guys tend to jump into a situation talking about how they want to do all of these things For an entire hour and it's not a fun experience.


I will break it down using my massage special for example

For my massage I had a special for a long time. I actually like giving massages and I like getting people off. Most people came in with the expectation that they get a massage and a quick something at the end...

Then I started getting these people that just couldnt feel their dick. They were totally desensitized to any touch and I had to jackhammer them for a long time.

These people really made me reconsider, offering a special because they needed to pay a lot more for the services they got and its not fair to everyone else. Honestly, it's not fair for me either. I would be exhausted from these people after and my back would hurt. It really kind of put me in a sour mood for the next appointment and a few of them honestly made me hate what I was doing. Like 95% of people were great. Then those 5% chronic masturbators that probably couldn't feel their cock of you smacked it with a stick really ruin the whole experience for everyone.

Most people aren't looking for a true porn star experience and the definition could really vary from person to person, you might be thinking you want a little deep throat and the last guy wanted to use and abuse someone for an hour.


I love giving massages and I love making people feel good... I hate when people show up and they've clearly jerked off all day before they came and they expect me to really work hard for every minute they're paying me the price I offer to regular folks.

I was trying to cut people some slack and offer a good deal so I could do more of the thing that I love... but there were days that I regretted it especially when I got two of these people in a row.

It honestly feels like after these people you need to recuperate. You need to take a break before your next appointment.

I think there's an aspect of not wanting to do it because it's uncomfortable and it's not a fun experience... but then there's the potential for lost revenue in case you get hurt. There's lost revenue, because you have to take a break after.

Honestly, if I had a couple of appointments and then a PSE experience, I would just take the rest of the day off. I would have to go home and relax and do something nice for myself.

I charge so much money for them people won't pay it and that's the goal.

If you say "no" men have tantrums and beg and won't leave you alone...

If you give them a price they're unwilling to pay they stop asking 😂

Saves time and energy.

Put up or shut up, but sometimes people put up and then i'm stuck doing it lol

I guess to put it more simply would you work harder for the same pay?

Would you be willing to work 2 or 3 times harder for the same amount of pay?

Of course you wouldn't. No one would.

These women are not as excited as you are about it.

Men that can really fuck are a hot commodity... until I set limitations on what i'm willing to provide I was getting hurt all the time. I was taking a lot of time off from getting hurt by people that didn't know what the fuck they were doing.

When I factor in a price for more extreme sex i am factoring in the time that I have to take off because I need to take a break after or because of the probability of me getting hurt.




I have encountered few, so its not ultra common to me, just wanted to get a feel how much have you seen ridiculous upcharges and if so, is it more lately?

To be clear, not the normal, acceptable ones, such as cim, rim, Greek, all understandble and extra services, lets say. That's standard.

Im talking about upcharge for dfk, when contacting this sp I was excited to see until I saw that... and I was instantly turned off, said not interested politely. Not even an issue about the donation, even with dfk it was reasonable, but what is so special about dfk, that includes pecks, like, kisses, etc? Its not like we are going to lock tongues for 60 min straight...

The other is upcharge for pse, at almost double the donation, which pretty much consist of going down your shaft fully (dp, if), as opposed to 2"...

Please dont name names, if this rings a bell, not my point, just that... some of this is ridiculous to me.

And yes, there's no pushing boundaries here, sp can set rates however she sees fit, no bad feelings, freedom to all, etc, etc... im not trying to start a debate on democracy and freedom of choice.

Just wondering if these are outliers, as i said, 2 times from all sps I've seen/talk to...
 
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Thank you, Sinnamon, for your in depth perspective.

And yes I agree with all of your points. In particular, some clients think they are gods and want reenact the fantasy of our oversaturation with porn, but in reality, forget that porn is just that, fantasy; there's plenty of pornstar testimonials on what they have to do, for hours on end, just to keep hard, prep, having "fluffers", etc, to shot a 15min scene. In reality, as you said 95% of us, are not that.

Im in the camp of the other side of midlife crisis, so believe me, no marathoner, more like what you described a touch of pse here and there, mostly gfe. And sp's comfort matters to me. Thus I mostly see regulars, established rapport, and good experiences.

In addition, many sps advertise gfe services only, go elsewhere otherwise for the same reasons you described. I find some advertise pse almost as a shtick to attract clients....

As for the masturbation prior, youre right, its wtf, did the client come to see you for fun, or torture? Even for himself... notwithstanding youngins who can cum x times a day, theres nothing worse for us, psyching ourselves out, and not being able to cum... just to be able to watch porn after and jackoff in 5 min....

Thanks for the point of overpricing "extras" in order to dissuade clients; seems obvious, but i overlooked that...

However some intentionally have just little bs upcharges for milking extra on top of donation, just to differentiate; those i dont bother with...
 

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Lol, I completely agree that most guys couldn't handle a true PSE. Myself included.

Go ahead, read some interviews from real porn stars: step 1: jerk off to get hard in a room full of other guys. Step 2: wait in the over-air conditioned room ( cold so her nipples stay hard) for 19 minutes until the girl is in the right position. Step 3: pound away for 6 minutes, being told to stop so they can reposition, remake-up, etc. Step 4: keep doing this for 3 hours without cunning. Step 5: Pause for phonecall f actresses kid, and hear her tell him to get the Lego out of him nose. Step 6: Cum on command when the director tells you.

Honestly, I think we need a new category. We have GFE, we have PSE. I'm looking for 'slightly sluttier than my ex-girlfriend' experience.


I think the logic is... At least from my perspective...

I think people put you at a higher risk of getting sick. The upcharge would account for days you have to take off from getting sick. Colds, sore throats ect

There are a lot of people who come in and just want a simple, straightforward experience and they honestly shouldn't pay the same as a person that wants a hardcore experience.
 

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my first encounter with a SW was long, long, long time ago

I picked up a street walker on Queen St and we went up to her room

she must have sensed that it was my first time with a professional

because when I asked if we can do it doggy style

she said "sure" but it will be extra

because it's an "unusual request"

I gladly paid and loved every minute of it :)
 

HoopyFrood

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"... slightly sluttier than my ex-girlfriend..." made me literally laugh out loud. Thanks! 😆

Lol, I completely agree that most guys couldn't handle a true PSE. Myself included.

Go ahead, read some interviews from real porn stars: step 1: jerk off to get hard in a room full of other guys. Step 2: wait in the over-air conditioned room ( cold so her nipples stay hard) for 19 minutes until the girl is in the right position. Step 3: pound away for 6 minutes, being told to stop so they can reposition, remake-up, etc. Step 4: keep doing this for 3 hours without cunning. Step 5: Pause for phonecall f actresses kid, and hear her tell him to get the Lego out of him nose. Step 6: Cum on command when the director tells you.

Honestly, I think we need a new category. We have GFE, we have PSE. I'm looking for 'slightly sluttier than my ex-girlfriend' experience.
 
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