Has Socialism Ruined Canada?

K Douglas

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Victor Davis Hansen makes the claim that 27% of Canada's population is comprised of people who were not born here. If you count people who's parents weren't born here that number jumps to 45%. He argues this is ruination because most of these folks immigrated with little to no wealth and that Canada doesn't have the economic growth to sustain them. I tend to agree. Our federal leadership has mismanaged immigration for at least a decade, if not longer.
 

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Victor Davis Hansen makes the claim that 27% of Canada's population is comprised of people who were not born here. If you count people who's parents weren't born here that number jumps to 45%. He argues this is ruination because most of these folks immigrated with little to no wealth and that Canada doesn't have the economic growth to sustain them. I tend to agree. Our federal leadership has mismanaged immigration for at least a decade, if not longer.
What a dumbass. Socialism isnt why we have immigrants. Its the capitalist parasites that want to import cheap labor who have bribed neoliberals from mulroney to carney and everyone inbetween to bring them here.
 

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Victor Davis Hansen makes the claim that 27% of Canada's population is comprised of people who were not born here. If you count people who's parents weren't born here that number jumps to 45%. He argues this is ruination because most of these folks immigrated with little to no wealth and that Canada doesn't have the economic growth to sustain them. I tend to agree. Our federal leadership has mismanaged immigration for at least a decade, if not longer.
Compared to who?
 

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What a dumbass. Socialism isnt why we have immigrants. Its the capitalist parasites that want to import cheap labor who have bribed neoliberals from mulroney to carney and everyone inbetween to bring them here.
Yup, its neoliberals and conservatives that wanted to flood Canada with TFW and international students to fund universities.
Its neoliberals who start wars all over the world then get surprised there are refugees.
 

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in the Toronto region they have this obsession with telling people to "volunteer" if they want a job. but won't help with transportation costs, meals, clothes etc
 

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if it is Socialism for the wealthy, through corporate give aways, subsidies and tax breaks, well that,s ok...but Socilaism for Mr And Mrs Main St...well that,s a different story

Corporate Welfare Bums was a phrase coined by the late David Lewis in the 1970,s...and through business friendly govts since the 80,s..that phrase still rings true
 

Frankfooter

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Hell no

I have Wolfsbane , garlic and silver crucifixes at the entrance to ward Socialism away
hopefully there is never a need for the wooden stake
Yes, and larue never leaves the house so as to avoid public roads (not enough toll roads for him to drive safely), public libraries, schools, hospitals and community centres.
Community centres are total communism and a danger to all life.
 
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K Douglas

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What a dumbass. Socialism isnt why we have immigrants. Its the capitalist parasites that want to import cheap labor who have bribed neoliberals from mulroney to carney and everyone inbetween to bring them here.
I'd hardly call VDH a dumbass. He's a well respected historian with a PhD from Stanford. A Senior Fellow of the Hoover Institute. Just for some reference here is Canada's foreign born population since WWII

1941 - 17.5%
1950 - 14.7% (dropped due to WWII)
1960 - 15.6%
1970 - 15.3%
1980 - 16.0%
1990 - 16.1%
2000 - 18.4% (PC majority 1991-1993, Liberal majority 1994-2000)
2010 - 20.6% (Liberal majority 2001-2004, Liberal minority 2005-2006; Conservative minority 2007-2010)
2015 - 21.9% (Conservative majority 2011-2015)
2020 - 23.0% (Liberal majority 2015-2019, Liberal minority 2020)
2025 - 26.7% (Liberal minority 2021-2025)
For context the US with all its illegal immigration has only about 16% foreign born population.

Since 1991 the Liberal party has held power for 23 of the 35 years. That's where the blame lies. High tax and spend economies see dramatic reductions in birth rates because people can't afford to have kids. That and a new voter base are the main reasons why we've seen spikes in immigrants.
 

ogibowt

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I'd hardly call VDH a dumbass. He's a well respected historian with a PhD from Stanford. A Senior Fellow of the Hoover Institute. Just for some reference here is Canada's foreign born population since WWII

1941 - 17.5%
1950 - 14.7% (dropped due to WWII)
1960 - 15.6%
1970 - 15.3%
1980 - 16.0%
1990 - 16.1%
2000 - 18.4% (PC majority 1991-1993, Liberal majority 1994-2000)
2010 - 20.6% (Liberal majority 2001-2004, Liberal minority 2005-2006; Conservative minority 2007-2010)
2015 - 21.9% (Conservative majority 2011-2015)
2020 - 23.0% (Liberal majority 2015-2019, Liberal minority 2020)
2025 - 26.7% (Liberal minority 2021-2025)
For context the US with all its illegal immigration has only about 16% foreign born population.

Since 1991 the Liberal party has held power for 23 of the 35 years. That's where the blame lies. High tax and spend economies see dramatic reductions in birth rates because people can't afford to have kids. That and a new voter base are the main reasons why we've seen spikes in immigrants.
HHmm....the Hoover Institute?...named after the US president who presided over the Great Depression?..that same Depression that FDR, that noted leftie pulled the US out of
and make no mistake , being a brainiac does not preclude one from being a Xenophobe....just sayin.
dont be harsh on me Dougie..remember we are music buddies here on Terb.....but miles apart, economically and politically.................polar opposites can still get along
 

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Business loves a saturated labour market like when millons of boomers and women were streaming in, contributing to the massive unemployment in the 80s and 90s.
Also, developers and the oligopolies(banks,telcos,airlines,etc) want a steady stream of customers for doing nothing.

 
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