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newguy2201

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Seeking starts at $215/month !!!!!
Well it's been $215 a month since at least January when I first checked it out

Unlike SDM, which is clearly the cheaper solution, going from $50 in April, to $300 5 months later!
 

Sugarsweet905

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Well it's been $215 a month since at least January when I first checked it out

Unlike SDM, which is clearly the cheaper solution, going from $50 in April, to $300 5 months later!
Also you can usually get 20% on Seeking if you sign up for a month and then take every second month off.
 

oral.com

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That is fucking ridiculous
Nothing compared to what you pay to have a regular arrangement.
Be prepared for 2 thousand per month
 

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For many of us the hot university girl the holy grail of sugaring, and the appeal is obvious.

But my sweet spot for success with SB’s seems to be single mom’s in their early to mid 30’s. I’ve been at this for several years now and in my experience they are much more reliable and mentally mature than younger women. The best part is they are much hornier, and in some cases kinkier, meaning the best sex I’ve had in the SB world by far.

Have any of you other veterans had the same experience? or do the 20 somethings do it better for you?
100%
 

Velvets

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Secrets and other sites using the same online platform have become a scam now. You sign up and in 2 days get about 10-15msges which cost you 10 credits to open up. Most now are bots and such so you've wasted a credit opening the msg. Then replying back at times you get no respond at all. I think someone met a lady off there and she said she never msged him first, but on his end it shows she did. I've only met a select few off the site past few years. My last transaction they messed up my account so I disputed my cc charges and got it back. Won't even sign up for any site like that again. I think some women left the sites too so the bot or someone on their end uses the account just to send out msges.
You can identify some of the bots because they show as currently online 24/7 and are never offline.
 

Hipjdog

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Hi guys, got another Seeking date story for ya.

(A couple details altered slightly for her privacy)

Found a very cute 19 year old Asian in Etobicoke. She said 600 for PPM plus her Ubers. I haven't had a girl over in a while so said ok.

I was a little nervous with her coming over as we had never met in person, talked on the phone, etc. and was hoping she was normal.
Thankfully she came to my place and was very nice and quite confident. We got to know each other over a drink and things flowed
pretty smoothly. Said she was a student at one of the Toronto universities and that this was her first Seeking date after being too
nervous to do it for a while.

When I alluded to my bedroom she said sure and hoped into bed. Well ok, then! Really good encounter with extensive BBBJ, then all the usually
positions. Great body, flat stomach, nice curves, the whole deal. She was pretty focused on my pleasure. My only issue is that she seemed to
try to rush me to my SOG when I would have preferred to just take our time.

Given her skills and comfort in the bedroom, my guess is she has done escorting at some point, or at the very least is very sexually experienced.
I think she has a foot in both worlds: the normal student life and....well, this one. I didn't ask her about it though, naturally.

We talked a bit after and parted with a hug. Over all went better than expected since she was a complete stranger coming over. PPM is pretty
high these days but welcome to Toronto I guess, haha.
 
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Zippythepinhead

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Hi guys, got another Seeking date story for ya.

(A couple details altered slightly for her privacy)

Found a very cute 19 year old Asian in Etobicoke. She said 600 for PPM plus her Ubers. I haven't had a girl over in a while so said ok.

I was a little nervous with her coming over as we had never met in person, talked on the phone, etc. and was hoping she was normal.
Thankfully she came to my place and was very nice and quite confident. We got to know each other over a drink and things flowed
pretty smoothly. Said she was a student at one of the Toronto universities and that this was her first Seeking date after being too
nervous to do it for a while.

When I alluded to my bedroom she said sure and hoped into bed. Well ok, then! Really good encounter with extensive BBBJ, then all the usually
positions. Great body, flat stomach, nice curves, the whole deal. She was pretty focused on my pleasure. My only issue is that she seemed to
try to rush me to my SOG when I would have preferred to just take our time.

Given her skills and comfort in the bedroom, my guess is she has done escorting at some point, or at the very least is very sexually experienced.
I think she has a foot in both worlds: the normal student life and....well, this one. I didn't ask her about it though, naturally.

We talked a bit after and parted with a hug. Over all went better than expected since she was a complete stranger coming over. PPM is pretty
high these days but welcome to Toronto I guess, haha.
Thanks for sharing. I’m wondering if you plan to pursue this? I ask because it sounds very much like an escort scenario (as you note) in that she seemed to be time constrained. For me, at the height of my sugar experience, the ppm represented a gift for spoken, or unspoken, expectations about a relaxed multi-hour date.
 

Hipjdog

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Thanks for sharing. I’m wondering if you plan to pursue this? I ask because it sounds very much like an escort scenario (as you note) in that she seemed to be time constrained. For me, at the height of my sugar experience, the ppm represented a gift for spoken, or unspoken, expectations about a relaxed multi-hour date.
Yeah, fair question. She was probably at my place for about 2.5 hours. About half of that was in bed. I guess it felt like a Seeking date...not quite an escort, not quite a regular girlfriend. She told me some things about her life that an SP never would, but I could tell she was guarded about other things.

To answer your question I would for sure have her over again. She was hot, young, a nice person and good in bed. I wish it felt a bit more natural but overall it was still really good.
 

Hipjdog

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For many of us the hot university girl the holy grail of sugaring, and the appeal is obvious.

But my sweet spot for success with SB’s seems to be single mom’s in their early to mid 30’s. I’ve been at this for several years now and in my experience they are much more reliable and mentally mature than younger women. The best part is they are much hornier, and in some cases kinkier, meaning the best sex I’ve had in the SB world by far.

Have any of you other veterans had the same experience? or do the 20 somethings do it better for you?
Totally understandable what you're saying but for me youth is premium and having a college-aged girl at my place is heaven so long as they aren't crazy. I rarely message a girl over 25.
 
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Zippythepinhead

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Yeah, fair question. She was probably at my place for about 2.5 hours. About half of that was in bed. I guess it felt like a Seeking date...not quite an escort, not quite a regular girlfriend. She told me some things about her life that an SP never would, but I could tell she was guarded about other things.

To answer your question I would for sure have her over again. She was hot, young, a nice person and good in bed. I wish it felt a bit more natural but overall it was still really good.
Got it. That makes sense. Sounds like she’s definitely worth having back. As a first date, spending 1-1.5 getting to know each other is well worth it. If she commits to multi hours with no rush to the end, she could be a great find
 

Hipjdog

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Got it. That makes sense. Sounds like she’s definitely worth having back. As a first date, spending 1-1.5 getting to know each other is well worth it. If she commits to multi hours with no rush to the end, she could be a great find
Yeah, exactly. She's cool. Like with anyone, I think more familiarity would bring better sessions.

The sugaring world is so fascinating because the only rules are the ones between the 2 people. With SP's it's pretty clear how things will go. With sugaring it's totally wide open. It's both exciting and frustrating.
 
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greensquare

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400-600PPM tends to be the general rate especially in the GTA with a young 20 year old who has a great body and face. It should include multihours, but that's something you'd have to communicate with her moving forward and see her thoughts. Or maybe past a certain hour she wants more. That needs to be clarified on your end so there's no surprises.

If you felt during the 1 hour in bed period the SOG seemed rush then prior to next session community nicely and professionally if she'd be into edging or something else. Or if you wanted MSOG which most tend to oblige to.

Whether you wanna go out for a coffee or go somewhere to an event with her that should be discussed too along with you or her wanting to cook a meal for each other too. Most tend to include all that in their PPM, but if they change their mind and want more that's where you as a client decides if the transaction is worthwhile without hurting your wallet.
 
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400DC

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I met a young lady last May in GTA via SDM. Many prompt replies off site. I offered $200/meet . Late evening , She replied , " I usually get $500 " ... I replied , thx anyway. The next morning , she acknowledged that she enjoyed our conversation and OK'd $200 . We met . Fabulous GFE , lasted half a day , with pre and post intimacy . I saw her 6 x . Then I drove to the east coast for the summer . I invited her to visit . She was interested, but had commitments. So she declined being a passenger, but would come later . She suggested 4 weeks. I was originally hesitant - thinking 2 weeks would be enough . She agreed to my offer of; airfare , $100/day, plus incidentals. I have never had so much sex in my life ! Every day; The 1st day , 3x - although I couldn't finish a 3rd x . If only I was younger. Outings / restaurants . Seafood at the cottage. Big age difference and we got more than a few stares. I don't care - few people know me here . I bought her a few things ; clothes etc - but she didn't make extravagant requests. Happy ! Surprisingly , no disagreements , no arguments, no regrets. I'm a bit sad that she flew back , but I will see her when I return next month. She wants to repeat next summer : ) She set the bar high for an arrangement .

Earlier this summer , I had a brief arrangement with an international student graduate. I was optimistic at first, but it was an ongoing headache ; always on her phone when together, TikTok, constant interac and "loan" requests etc. Limited sexual experience, but she had intense Orgasms. Weak BBBJ, Minimal kissing - she was unwilling to be trained ... smh
 
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ZenFox

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good thread
learned a lot from reading this

the ones who last are the ones who keep it simple
no feelings no expectations
just a good time
 

Zippythepinhead

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I met a young lady last May in GTA via SDM. Many prompt replies off site. I offered $200/meet . Late evening , She replied , " I usually get $500 " ... I replied , thx anyway. The next morning , she acknowledged that she enjoyed our conversation and OK'd $200 . We met . Fabulous GFE , lasted half a day , with pre and post intimacy . I saw her 6 x . Then I drove to the east coast for the summer . I invited her to visit . She was interested, but had commitments. So she declined being a passenger, but would come later . She suggested 4 weeks. I was originally hesitant - thinking 2 weeks would be enough . She agreed to my offer of; airfare , $100/day, plus incidentals. I have never had so much sex in my life ! Every day; The 1st day , 3x - although I couldn't finish a 3rd x . If only I was younger. Outtings / restaurants . Seafood at the cottage. Big age difference and we got more than a few stares. I don't care - few people know me here . I bought her a few things ; clothes etc - but she didn't make extravagant requests. Happy ! Surprisingly , no disagreements , no arguments, no regrets. I'm a bit sad that she flew back , but I will see her when I return next month . She set the bar high for an arrangement .

Earlier this summer , I had a brief arrangement with an international student graduate. I was optimistic at first, but it was an ongoing headache ; always on her phone when together, TikTok, constant interac and "loan" requests etc. Limited sexual experience, but she had intense Orgasms. Weak BBBJ, Minimal kissing - she was unwilling to be trained ... smh
You have found a unicorn…excellent! At $200ppm? Wow…it’s great that it works for both of you. I guess I’m curious…is there a time that you will voluntarily increase the ppm to show your appreciation and keep her happy? Or, are you more likely to wait until she asks? If she does ask, say for $300, what would you do?
 

400DC

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You have found a unicorn…excellent! At $200ppm? Wow…it’s great that it works for both of you. I guess I’m curious…is there a time that you will voluntarily increase the ppm to show your appreciation and keep her happy? Or, are you more likely to wait until she asks? If she does ask, say for $300, what would you do?
If she asks, I might meet halfway at $250/meet . She appreciates my home baking . I have lots of available time , but am not rich. Still have to get a no tell motel. I had an on/off again arrangement with a lady . Started 10 yrs ago at $150/ usually an hr meet at office. And she took transit from Fort York to the burbs ! Increased - her request- to eventually $300 / ppm plus no tell motel . She would DFK only when she was really horny. Bugged me . I dropped her 3 yrs ago, after too many head turns . Still friends and message occasionally.

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With initial messaging ; "my last arrangement was $1500 / ppm " Or "$700" - instant , "above my budget, thx anyway" from me. Also , one word replies are a loss of interest from me as well.
 
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How often do you see your SB?

Do you ever meet up with your SB just as two friends for coffee without the intent of sex or payment? (Could be initiated by either party.)

If the SB asked, would you openly say thay you’re married/in a relationship so as to manage expectations?
 

RJ11

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How often do you see your SB?

Do you ever meet up with your SB just as two friends for coffee without the intent of sex or payment? (Could be initiated by either party.)

If the SB asked, would you openly say thay you’re married/in a relationship so as to manage expectations?
1x a month, you can manage this expectation

No, only paid meetups, I haven't tried to meetup just to hang out, I'm not under any illusions of what this relationship is...

Yes, I openly say I'm in a relationship. Both parties are clear on what we're doing together.

I don't sugar to find a GF, just a FB I'm really into
 
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