How do I get an older Persian woman? Whether that's through escorting, sugaring or a civie relationship

What is a weak man? I don't like the whole macho man thing. I guess a non-weak man is simply not a simp? I'm also kind of scared to argue with certain types of women. Some are crazy and their ego can make them do dangerous things

Do you think those Persian women, 35-45, would be into someone like me who is 25?

Just display self-confidence and be assertive, but not pushy.

Try to avoid arguments, or even debates, especially about religion and politics, and you'll be fine.

If a woman finds you attractive, your age should not be an issue...
 
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What is a weak man? I don't like the whole macho man thing. I guess a non-weak man is simply not a simp? I'm also kind of scared to argue with certain types of women. Some are crazy and their ego can make them do dangerous things

Do you think those Persian women, 35-45, would be into someone like me who is 25?

What is a weak man? Someone who doesn't know what a weak man is, maybe.

I don't think you're cut out to meet Persian women cold turkey, dude. They'll eat you alive.
 
I think this goes for mostly every women 😂 I do this to the guys that try to talk to me at a club 😊

haha maybe, but most women will just give you the death stare or ignore you. Iranian women will outright play with you like a kitty plays with a dead mouse.
 
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Every woman wants a guy with game until it's time to settle down with a guy with game. Then all of a sudden we're supposed to stop having game when you're not around. 😂

Yes exactly! (y) I was so worried about "having game" in younger years, then you start seeing that at ANY AGE a person can become ill (for example) and expire in a blink of an eye, game or not game! This does take some level of maturity and life experience, I admit it took me a LONG time to reach there, so now I just focus on being the best version of myself and developing the best relations that I can with others!
 
What is a weak man? Someone who doesn't know what a weak man is, maybe.

I don't think you're cut out to meet Persian women cold turkey, dude. They'll eat you alive.
I'm only worried about being falsely accused or met with rudeness or like she starts making a scene or something. That's the main fear in 2026 when cold approaching
 
Just display self-confidence and be assertive, but not pushy.

Try to avoid arguments, or even debates, especially about religion and politics, and you'll be fine.

If a woman finds you attractive, your age should not be an issue...
By assertive do you mean "leading", on dates etc? I always found it awkward to lead. For example, for dates, I like to ask "Hey what do you wanna do", and then if I don't like their idea, I'll give my own input etc. Is that an example of being non-assertive? Or by being assertive, do you simply mean standing by my personal values?

And yeah, debates about religion / politics always tend to fizzle things out. I also always feel like it's a test when a woman brings up religious / political debate topics. It's like they're trying to analyze me

I've noticed older women always bring up the age thing. Calling me too young, assuming my maturity level etc. I don't like having to jump through that hoop and having to prove that "I'm older than my biological age". It's kind of annoying, and also dismissive when they do that
 
Yes exactly! (y) I was so worried about "having game" in younger years, then you start seeing that at ANY AGE a person can become ill (for example) and expire in a blink of an eye, game or not game! This does take some level of maturity and life experience, I admit it took me a LONG time to reach there, so now I just focus on being the best version of myself and developing the best relations that I can with others!
That's a good mindset. Basically we are just mortal humans, with weak flesh bodies. Most of the ego and status we make in this world, is just an illusion. Money and status come and go. It can be lost and gained within a day.

However, while someone is deeply entrenched in their own ego and status, would they not only speak to people who have "game"?

Like a 10/10 woman would not even look at the average man. And the average man would be too scared to even look at her. Both people are involved in a false hierachy, when they are actually equals; mortal humans

But if the average man has so much game, then he can seduce almost any woman

Unless, are you saying that there is a way to tap into the humble human of another, behind their ego? A way that does not require game? A way for the average man, with no game, to make the 10/10 feel seen for who she is (underneath her ego) and have her be seduced by him?
 
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That's a good mindset. Basically we are just mortal humans, with weak flesh bodies. Most of the ego and status we make in this world, is just an illusion. Money and status come and go. It can be lost and gained within a day.

However, while someone is deeply entrenched in their own ego and status, would they not only speak to people who have "game"?

Like a 10/10 woman would not even look at the average man. And the average man would be too scared to even look at her. Both people are involved in a false hierachy, when they are actually equals; mortal humans

But if the average man has so much game, then he can seduce almost any woman

Unless, are you saying that there is a way to tap into the humble human of another, behind their ego? A way that does not require game? A way for the average man, with no game, to make the 10/10 feel seen for who she is (underneath her ego) and have her be seduced by him?

What I am trying to say, is that I try my best, and take whatever comes, without worrying too much about others' opinions/beliefs/prejudices/etc.! Of course that we always need to be on the lookout, and actively work against, things like abuse/disrespect/manipulation/and so on, but the "base" is that we control what we can control to the best of our abilities, and that's basically it!
 
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That's a good mindset. Basically we are just mortal humans, with weak flesh bodies. Most of the ego and status we make in this world, is just an illusion. Money and status come and go. It can be lost and gained within a day.

However, while someone is deeply entrenched in their own ego and status, would they not only speak to people who have "game"?

Like a 10/10 woman would not even look at the average man. And the average man would be too scared to even look at her. Both people are involved in a false hierachy, when they are actually equals; mortal humans

But if the average man has so much game, then he can seduce almost any woman

Unless, are you saying that there is a way to tap into the humble human of another, behind their ego? A way that does not require game? A way for the average man, with no game, to make the 10/10 feel seen for who she is (underneath her ego) and have her be seduced by him?

Just make it a goal to meet a Persian woman, smile and say hello. That's your goal, that's when the journey begins.

All the philosophical word salad bullshit you just posted is your mind tricking you into staying in your comfort zone.

Execute.
 
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By assertive do you mean "leading", on dates etc? I always found it awkward to lead. For example, for dates, I like to ask "Hey what do you wanna do", and then if I don't like their idea, I'll give my own input etc. Is that an example of being non-assertive? Or by being assertive, do you simply mean standing by my personal values?

And yeah, debates about religion / politics always tend to fizzle things out. I also always feel like it's a test when a woman brings up religious / political debate topics. It's like they're trying to analyze me

I've noticed older women always bring up the age thing. Calling me too young, assuming my maturity level etc. I don't like having to jump through that hoop and having to prove that "I'm older than my biological age". It's kind of annoying, and also dismissive when they do that

My main point is that you should approach the ladies with confidence, and the appearance of expecting to be liked.

That's how I was with escorts, despite a lack of true self-confidence, due to my age, and having only a "6" body and face.

However, I did find with some experience in that world that my personality, natural and respectful charm, as well as my sense of humor seemed to warm most of the ladies up about 10 minutes, or less, into our first sessions, and if I repeated, that positive foundation had already been established.

I can't tell you how to become positive about yourself. Perhaps other terb members, or even books on that subject can help.

Try to act mature beyond your years. Fib about your age a bit if you don't worry about being caught, and if you are caught just say that you were trying to avoid the "age difference" issue, as it means nothing to you.

Rather than asking the lady what she would like to do, be the one who suggests something that you think you both might enjoy. Let her be the one to suggest something different if she doesn't like your suggestion, and if it sounds even a bit ok to you, do it at least for your first "date". Don't be afraid to suggest something else if you really don't like her suggestion.

In other words, be "active" rather than passive and reactive.

What more can I say?
 
Fib about your age a bit if you don't worry about being caught, and if you are caught just say that you were trying to avoid the "age difference" issue, as it means nothing to you.

Please do NOT lie about your age. That is an unforgivable act to women. Act mature for your age, tell them you "had to grow up fast" if you must, but please do not lie about your actual age. Woman absolutely hate that shit.
 
Please do NOT lie about your age. That is an unforgivable act to women. Act mature for your age, tell them you "had to grow up fast" if you must, but please do not lie about your actual age. Woman absolutely hate that shit.

Point taken.

I never did, and never had to.

I never dated women older than me, and have had no hestitation telling any woman my real age.

True story, I met my second wife at a singles dance. I was 40 and she was 24. Both of us had been married and divorced already. She approached me and introduced herself. She lied about her year of birth because she was worried I would think she was too young for me. I do have to say I was pissed when I later found out, not because of her actual age, but because of her lie.
 
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Lol honestly, if I was in sales, I'd always be a bit scared to cold approach the potential female clients lol

As any good salesman knows, you've got to believe in the product to sell it effectively.

In this case you have to start believing in yourself, and what you have to offer any older civilian woman, by way of quickly making her feel that she will enjoy your company, and that you're not a waste of her time.

Honestly speaking OP, you have to build up your self-confidence a whole lot more than it seems to be now, before you will have any success in this endeavor.

Perhaps Persian escorts are the best way for now, and as you build up your confidence with them, then start thinking about civies...
 
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More like Troll.... post are ... becoming red flags.
 
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