we can not vote Trump out of office, howeverNew tariffs are here
Trump slaps 50% tariffs on Canada and Carney vows to 'intensify' trade talks
The duties mark a major escalation in trade tensions between the North American neighbours.www.bbc.com
Trump Threatens Increased Tarriffs on Canada over Wildfire Smoke
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No.
Explain the graph.
Don't cut one piece out and proclaim "I win."
This is a very simple test of your abilities, John.
It's a simple graph, explain it.
In that process, obviously your complaint about hindcasting will come up.
But the point of this is to lay to rest completely the lingering suspicion many people have here that you don't know what you are talking about.
This isn't difficult.
It's trivial, in fact.
Step up and put this to rest.
hmm when was it that, I agreed to have you direct me , oh yes >>> Never
Who do you think you are?
Go practise your muddying of the water routine on someone else
it has been explained and explained clearly
he mis-represents forecasts from 2005 as actual measurements when the data post 2005 is clearly labelled as forecasts
that is a F for failure is any science class
Now if you are unable to understand this then you really have no business commenting at all on any scientific data
Now please specify exactly what is beyond your intellectual capabilities to understand?
the difference beywwen actual and forecasted data ?
or
is it your ability to read labels?
or
do you not understand what misrepresentation means ?
lingering suspicion ?
I am not the one posting forecasts and misrepresenting them as actuals
Its not like he just started this nonsense
If you had any integrity your lingering suspicions would be focused on the lingering bovine scatology that Frankfooter posts.
But alas, you have an ideology to answer to and thus are unable to be honest and straightforward and need to play your annoying and disingenuous muddy the waters routine
It is not difficult, yet you seem to be having a very difficult time understanding
he mis-represents forecasts from 2005 as actual measurements when the data post 2005 is clearly labelled as forecasts
If you are still confused , ask a grade 11 student why you can not misrepresent forecasts as actuals and call it science
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So you are admitting you can't explain a basic graph.
Well, I guess that settles that pretty definitively.
I'm not the one who just ran screaming away from a simple request to explain a graph.
You tucked tail and you ran.
Let's not even go into the screaming flight you took from me putting Christy's data into another graph.
Why try and keep up the pretense when you're just showing ass again and again here?
I'm the one acting with integrity here.
You can completely shut down Frank with elegance and grace.
You may have noticed Frank hasn't stepped up and explained the graph competently either.
Either one of you could really establish some real bonifides with just a little effort.
If this graph is too hard for you to manage, you could take one of the other graphs in the various threads and do the same.
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Prayers go out to all the Americans having to pay for those new tariffs.New tariffs are here
Trump slaps 50% tariffs on Canada and Carney vows to 'intensify' trade talks
The duties mark a major escalation in trade tensions between the North American neighbours.
You can't understand the science and have to use AI to even make a post now larue.
Stay out of the debate, you don't understand it.
Not true, I explained the chart and larue's errors repeatedly, just not lately.
It gets boring repeating the same points he can't understand.
The fact that he can't understand those charts is symptomatic of right wing ignorance.
Its a Dunning Kruger party.
O Canada
What can we say?
Robert Reich
Jul 21, 2026
Friends,
Trump on Monday signed orders to impose a 50 percent tariff on a wide range of Canadian imports.
The White House claims the tariffs are a “punishment” for Canadian discrimination against American cars, dairy, and alcohol.
But the tariffs will also punish us. Remember, tariffs are import taxes — paid for by you and me and everyone else in America. So, we’re about to pay more for everything we import from Canada — plywood, paper, furniture, hockey sticks, cement, et al. Canada is our second-largest trading partner, for chrissake.
Even if the Supreme Court finds that Trump lacks authority to invoke these tariffs and the government must refund American importers for the extra cost — as the high court did with his first round of tariffs — you and I won’t be reimbursed for the extra costs we’ve paid.
Corporations aren’t giving their customers any of the $80 billion in refunds they’ve received from the Treasury Department for the first round of tariffs, so don’t expect any reimbursement on this second round. Which means we’re doubly screwed.
Worse yet, the Treasury isn’t really bearing the cost of the $80 billion in refunds. The cost is being borne by you and me and all other American taxpayers, because our money funds the government. And as taxpayers we’ll also be paying for the second round of refunds, assuming the Supreme Court orders them. Which means we’re triply screwed.
Actually, we’re quadruply screwed because Trump is imposing the new tariffs under the Tariff Act of 1930 — the notorious Smoot-Hawley tariff that worsened the Great Depression by causing other countries to retaliate and impose tariffs on goods coming from the United States. It’s likely to have a similar effect in coming months.
If you hadn’t noticed, the American economy is already shaky. Prices are rising faster than wages, which means most of us are becoming poorer even before Trump’s next round of tariffs. His war in Iran is pushing up the price of gas and, indirectly, food.
The real reason for the new tariffs is that Trump is pissed off that Canada had the temerity (and the right) to retaliate against his first round of tariffs, and it has resisted Trump’s calls to be annexed as the 51st state.
Why would Canadians ever want to live in a nation that could elect Trump?
In any event, I believe I can speak for most Americans when I apologize to our Canadian friends. We’re sorry we elected him. He’s made our lives worse. He’s a continuing embarrassment to us. (Did you see him grandstand at the World Cup? We have to live with this crap every day.)
Believe me, we’re doing everything we can to put him back in his cage.
Hoekstra Blurts Out An Achillies Heel?
The U.S. ambassador to Canada says that Prime Minister Mark Carney offered to double exports of Canadian oil to the United States as part of a prospective trade deal last year.
Pete Hoekstra, speaking at a conference in Edmonton on Monday, said that Mr. Carney made the pitch during an Oct. 7, 2025, meeting at the White House. At the time, the Prime Minister was trying to reach an agreement to get U.S. President Donald Trump to drop or reduce his tariffs on Canadian steel, aluminum, autos and other goods.
“The Prime Minister proposed, as part of a preliminary trade agreement, that Canada would be willing to ship three to four million barrels of oil to the United States, additional barrels of oil to the United States,” per day, Mr. Hoekstra said in an on-stage interview with former Alberta cabinet minister Gary Mar at the Pacific Northwest Economic Region annual summit.
Canada currently supplies about four million barrels of oil a day to the U.S., accounting for nearly two-thirds of American imports.
U.S. Interior Secretary Doug Burgum and U.S. Energy Secretary Chris Wright wanted to take Mr. Carney’s offer, Mr. Hoekstra said.
“Doug Burgum and Secretary Wright had to be restrained by the President because they were so eager for getting more oil and getting it from Canada,” he said. Mr. Trump “had to advise them that crawling across the table and shaking Carney’s hand” was “not necessarily the best negotiating strategy,” Mr. Hoekstra added.
No deal was ever reached, as Mr. Trump walked away from talks later that month over an anti-tariff advertisement from the Ontario government.
Perhaps it's time to cut the oil supply and electricity being sent to the US and slap them back.
You haven't done a walk through of the graph. (Mind you, his mistakes are so egregious, that just focusing on those make sense for you to do instead.)
The charts are really quite basic and contain all the info needed. The idea that you would need to do a walkthrough is hilarious.
You really think that I posted them and can't follow them myself?
I doubt it, but it certainly seems Larue can't.
And since one of the only ways Larue might risk it is to show you up, I made the offer.
This is such a messed up year.
trump is sucking up all the oxygen with Iran and Israel.
The real emergency is the climate with crop failure and El Nino ongoing.
Its global.
And this will be a comparatively good year in the future as its only going to get worse.
