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princekwekua said:
Article 6 of the MOU:

The United States of America undertakes, with regional partners, to develop a definitive mutually agreed plan with at least USD 300 Billion, for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The mechanism for the implementation of this plan will be finalized as part of final Deal within 60 days. All required licenses, waivers and permissions needed for the relevant financial transactions will be granted by the United States of America.
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What does that have to do with Hormuz?


5. Upon the signing of this MoU, the Islamic Republic of Iran will make arrangements using its best efforts for the safe passage of commercial vessels with no charge for 60 days only from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman and vice versa. The traffic of commercial vessels will immediately start, and considering the need for removing the technical and military obstacles and demining by the Islamic Republic of Iran, will be instated within 30 days. The Islamic Republic of Iran will conduct dialogue with the Sultanate of Oman to define the future administration and maritime services in the Strait of Hormuz in discussion with other Persian Gulf littoral states in line with the applicable international law and the sovereign rights of coastal states of the Strait of Hormuz.
 
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squeezer said:
I'd be fleeing HAMAS's wicked rule....You would probably join HAMAS and be on a motorcycle on OCT. 7th going after those "Zionists".
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‘You’ve given up all pretense of being anything other than a fanatical Zio.
 
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yeahyeahyeah said:
"Hamas was democratically elected" huh?

A shame that after they were "democratically elected" they also had an unfortunate tendency to kill and summarily execute Fatah personnel and other political opponents.

Gaza: Hamas Should End Killings, Torture

www.hrw.org www.hrw.org

Ooopsie!

And once they took power, Hamas continued repressing opponents through arbitrary arrests, torture, extrajudicial killings and executions.

So very democratic.

Once again, low information fools like you who just spend their days hating Jews never deal with complexities or finer details. It's just 24/7 sloganeering. Only a dummy would ever make some equivalence between the actual democratic state of Israel and a terror group bent on obliterating its enemies, even when it is its own people.
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Every accusation by a zio is a confession
 
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yeahyeahyeah said:
You robots just post the same moronic slogans.
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Zios keep repeating the discredited script that no one takes seriously anymore. When will they get self awareness.
 
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Hezbollah doesn't run Lebanon. It's an Iranian-backed armed group and political movement, but it is not the Lebanese government.

Hamas is a designated terrorist organization by many countries and was the de facto governing authority in Gaza until its military capabilities were severely degraded. At this point, its ability to "fight back" is far more limited than it once was. My guess is that any significant attack it attempts will simply trigger another Israeli response, leading to even more Palestinian casualties.

As for Iran, yes, every sovereign state has the right to defend itself under international law. That doesn't mean it has the right to attack its neighbours. If Iran attacks another sovereign state AKA Gulf States, that state also has the right to defend itself and respond as it SHOULD, consistent with international law
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Hezbollah was elected and part of the government, as was Hamas.
You use the word 'terrorist' on a racial basis. Not on the acts themselves. So when Israel or america target civilians you refuse to call those acts of terrorism as its your last moral stand. But it looks very shitty on you. Genocide is the most evil form of terrorism know to humans, to intentionally target and kill large numbers of civilians yet you would never, ever admit that Israel, trump and Netanyahu are also terrorists. To do so means you have no defence of Israel left.
None.

So you are stuck applying the term 'terrorist' based on race.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2081374314729754846
 
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yeahyeahyeah said:

Gaza: Hamas Should End Killings, Torture

www.hrw.org www.hrw.org

Ooopsie!

And once they took power, Hamas continued repressing opponents through arbitrary arrests, torture, extrajudicial killings and executions.

So very democratic.

Once again, low information fools like you who just spend their days hating Jews never deal with complexities or finer details. It's just 24/7 sloganeering. Only a dummy would ever make some equivalence between the actual democratic state of Israel and a terror group bent on obliterating its enemies, even when it is its own people.
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Here's the difference between you and I.
I back Hamas and Israel both being investigated for all war crimes alleged by HRW, Amnesty or the UN.

You back a group that would rather pay $6 million to try to shut down the courts so you can continue war crimes like genocide and terrorism.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2081353483232444477
 
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nottyboi said:
What does that have to do with Hormuz?
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There is no way in hell the USA will ever agree to compensate them. They know it, and thats why they will never agree to relinquish control of the straits. The USA is getting its base network utterly dismantled by Iran.
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Article 6 of the MOU:

The United States of America undertakes, with regional partners, to develop a definitive mutually agreed plan with at least USD 300 Billion, for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The mechanism for the implementation of this plan will be finalized as part of final Deal within 60 days. All required licenses, waivers and permissions needed for the relevant financial transactions will be granted by the United States of America.
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In case you forget what you write, here is a reminder of what you wrote: "there is no way in hell the USA will ever agree to compensate them." And I posted Article 6 of the MOU to refute that statement. Got it now?
 
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princekwekua said:
Article 6 of the MOU:

The United States of America undertakes, with regional partners, to develop a definitive mutually agreed plan with at least USD 300 Billion, for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The mechanism for the implementation of this plan will be finalized as part of final Deal within 60 days. All required licenses, waivers and permissions needed for the relevant financial transactions will be granted by the United States of America.
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In case you forget what you write, here is a reminder of what you wrote: "there is no way in hell the USA will ever agree to compensate them." And I posted Article 6 of the MOU to refute that statement. Got it now?
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True, the MOU does say that.
But then you'd have to argue that a deal with trump will be honoured.

That's a hard sell.

trump still thinks he's winning

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2081475803099852837
 
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Frankfooter said:
Here's the difference between you and I.
I back Hamas and Israel both being investigated for all war crimes alleged by HRW, Amnesty or the UN.

You back a group that would rather pay $6 million to try to shut down the courts so you can continue war crimes like genocide and terrorism.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2081353483232444477
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Dude all you do is change the channel on any given point and post another idiotic Twitter screenshot.

You just completely ignored the "Hamas was democratically elected like Israel" bullshit when I showed you what fucking nonsense that is.

Like all left wing fools, you try to make some equivalence between a democratic country like Israel and a truly evil terrorist group backed by an even bigger terror state in Iran. "Look they're democratically elected like Bibi." Like are you really this ridiculous?
 
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princekwekua said:
Article 6 of the MOU:

The United States of America undertakes, with regional partners, to develop a definitive mutually agreed plan with at least USD 300 Billion, for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The mechanism for the implementation of this plan will be finalized as part of final Deal within 60 days. All required licenses, waivers and permissions needed for the relevant financial transactions will be granted by the United States of America.
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In case you forget what you write, here is a reminder of what you wrote: "there is no way in hell the USA will ever agree to compensate them." And I posted Article 6 of the MOU to refute that statement. Got it now?
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Once again nothing to do with Hormuz and the access during the 60 days. This talks of a plan to be the final settlement after the 60. During the 60 days Iran is responsible for navigation
 
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yeahyeahyeah said:
Dude all you do is change the channel on any given point and post another idiotic Twitter screenshot.

You just completely ignored the "Hamas was democratically elected like Israel" bullshit when I showed you what fucking nonsense that is.

Like all left wing fools, you try to make some equivalence between a democratic country like Israel and a truly evil terrorist group backed by an even bigger terror state in Iran. "Look they're democratically elected like Bibi." Like are you really this ridiculous?
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yeahyeahyeah....

Hamas was democratically elected like Netanyahu.
Hamas had one day of resistance on Oct 7 and Netanyahu has had 3 years of genocide in return.
Hamas killed between 400-800 civilians on that day, Israel has killed between 70,000 - 700,000 civilians.

So yeahyeahyeah, good point.
Israel is way more farking disgustingly evil.

Well done.

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Frankfooter said:
True, the MOU does say that.
But then you'd have to argue that a deal with trump will be honoured.

That's a hard sell.

trump still thinks he's winning
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The US lifted sanctions on sale of Iranian oil, allowing them to sell to anyone and receive payment in US dollars. That was a confidence boosting measure
By some measures, Iran therefore received 20% more per barrel of oil.
And Iran have an ace. If the US reneged, they could impose tolls, if that was not already a part of the deal

Which goes back to my original point. For 60 days, all sides should have sheathed their swords and given peace a chance.
Iran overplayed their hand by shooting at vessels transiting the Omani corridor during the 60-day cooling off period
 
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squeezer said:
Frankie, here is something that will make your day. See, CNN isn't so bad, is it?

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I thnk I've already posted those polls, though I guess they don't count until they show up in some youtube commentary video.
Really, its not surprising, is it?
How popular did you think spending american money on genocide instead of health care would be?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2081639393706569738
 
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princekwekua said:
The US lifted sanctions on sale of Iranian oil, allowing them to sell to anyone and receive payment in US dollars. That was a confidence boosting measure
By some measures, Iran therefore received 20% more per barrel of oil.
And Iran have an ace. If the US reneged, they could impose tolls, if that was not already a part of the deal

Which goes back to my original point. For 60 days, all sides should have sheathed their swords and given peace a chance.
Iran overplayed their hand by shooting at vessels transiting the Omani corridor during the 60-day cooling off period
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The Omani moves were trump trying to push the limits of the MOU.
Iran could have let it go but now they are back to the where they were.
The states have given up on attacking, Netanyahu is so pissed he's flying to the states to give trump a talking to and Iran controls the Hormuz.

Which goes back to what I was saying, trump has three options, all bad.
1) admit he lost
2) start a losing land invasion
3) use nukes

As it is, we are seeing the end of the petro dollar, all bases in the gulf are gone and trump's army is telling him to stop.
 
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Frankfooter said:
I thnk I've already posted those polls, though I guess they don't count until they show up in some youtube commentary video.
Really, its not surprising, is it?
How popular did you think spending american money on genocide instead of health care would be?
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The problem with your posts is that nobody pays attention to your links because much of the time it is exaggerated and false information to fit a narrative.

No, it's not surprising because American voters are fed up with rising costs and blaming the wars in the Middle East as part of the problem.

This will crush Trump and the Republicans, so it's all good. I said it when Trump decided to attack Iran at Bibi's request: it will be his downfall if it drags on.
 
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