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Frankfooter

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Nope, I don't blanket defend anyone, but you do.

I want to see Trump fall, literally fall, but I am not cheering for Iran.
You just cheered for trump to attack Iran.
You cheered for more death and the Hormuz to close again.

Let trump fail in the ballroom or reflecting pool where he can't hurt other people.
 

squeezer

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And who's going to pay for that? I hear those missiles are quite expensive.

Write a letter to Trump and ask him. They don't seem too concerned about the cost while they're firing missiles into Iran. Why are you? Is it your money? Are you an American citizen paying taxes and want to complain how your tax money is being spent?
 

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You just cheered for trump to attack Iran.
You cheered for more death and the Hormuz to close again.

Let trump fail in the ballroom or reflecting pool where he can't hurt other people.
No, I said he has to do so if Iran is attacking vessels in the Strait. They leave him no choice. You really need to get it straight instead of creating your own narratives.

I don't care where he falls, to be honest. I just want to hear about it when it happens.
 

Frankfooter

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No, I said he has to do so if Iran is attacking vessels in the Strait. They leave him no choice. You really need to get it straight instead of creating your own narratives.

I don't care where he falls, to be honest. I just want to hear about it when it happens.
Iran is asserting control of the Hormuz, if shipping goes through them there is no problem.
Calling for trump to attack Iran over this is just shitty and stupid.

trump signed the MOU, he should abide by its terms and use diplomacy.
Another stage of war will be way worse for the gulf and the world.

Though there is a chance that this is just trump playing the markets again.

 

squeezer

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Iran is asserting control of the Hormuz, if shipping goes through them there is no problem.
Calling for trump to attack Iran over this is just shitty and stupid.

trump signed the MOU, he should abide by its terms and use diplomacy.
Another stage of war will be way worse for the gulf and the world.

Though there is a chance that this is just trump playing the markets again.

 

Insidious Von

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Evelyn is a 16 year old farm girl. Her parents have full time jobs, it's up to her and her siblings to run the farm.

She's too old for Alan Dershowitz.

 
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Insidious Von

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Warden help, he's grabbing my ass!

He wanted to grope Kristen Welker's ass when he grabber her arm. He wasn't strong enough to bend her over. They let him do it.

 

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HUGE Epstein Breakthrough: Trump SCRAMBLES As Judge Demands Answers On Epstein File Redactions!!



@The Oracle , since you have maligned Mocky in another thread, how do you feel about Farron?
 

Valcazar

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trump is about to restart the Iran war.
This after signing and bragging about the MOU.

The Epstein theory is one theory, do you have another better one?

Let's see.
  • Iran struck a ship
  • People have done nothing but point out Trump is a losing loser who loses with his shitty MOU
  • Someone told him switching to Cuba or Greenland isn't going to go much better
  • His fair is going to be a giant failure
  • He has no plan and does stupid shit all the time.
Just off the top of my head.
 

Valcazar

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No, the MOU DID not give Iran control of the Strait! Go ahead and show the evidence you have to prove your claim, I call bullshit on.

You can say Iran wrongly believes it does, but this was not agreed upon in the MOU.
Read the MOU.
It's ambiguous for a reason (that was probably the only way anyone would sign it).
It can absolutely be read in a way that Iran is in charge of the strait right now and has to make sure things go smooth.
That they interpreted that as "shoot people trying to go through in a way they didn't approve of" is a shitty interpretation and doing something that can escalate is dumb, but it is a completely plausible reading of the MOU.
 
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Valcazar

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Never mind your Twitter crap...here read it, it's from Al Jazeera...


Trump cannot give Iran control of the Strait without looking like he completely caved and lost. I know that is what you want to make up but I'm sure this wasn't the intent of the negotiations.
That Al Jazeera article completely agrees with what I am saying.
 

Valcazar

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Sure, Frankie, they should just allow Iran to do as they please. I don't think so. Yes, Trump is a dumbass for starting the war, but now, if he doesn't rein in Iran, they've completely lost.
Tolls should never be allowed and the Strait should be returned to what it was before Trump started this stupid war.
I think Trump fucked up any chance to return to the status quo ante bellum.
That's one of the costs of starting a war - you don't always get to go back to the situation before the war just because your bet that using military force would get you what you wanted didn't pan out.
 
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squeezer

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I think Trump fucked up any chance to return to the status quo ante bellum.
That's one of the costs of starting a war - you don't always get to go back to the situation before the war just because your bet that using military force would get you what you wanted didn't pan out.
Yes, this is true and if Iran ends up with the right to charge tolls in the strait, it is a direct loss Trump cannot finagle or lie his way out of.
 

Frankfooter

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Let's see.
  • Iran struck a ship
  • People have done nothing but point out Trump is a losing loser who loses with his shitty MOU
  • Someone told him switching to Cuba or Greenland isn't going to go much better
  • His fair is going to be a giant failure
  • He has no plan and does stupid shit all the time.
Just off the top of my head.
The ship was just the Friday skirmish for the market followed by making up on Monday morning.
The rest are pretty goofy theories.

Its hard to tell with him if actually believes his own lies that he totally destroyed Iran or if he's realizing everyone thinks he lost.
Or it could be Epstein.

Or Roosevelt.


 
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