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squeezer

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trump is about to restart the Iran war.
This after signing and bragging about the MOU.

The Epstein theory is one theory, do you have another better one?
Perhaps because a ship was hit in the Strait during a supposed ceasefire? Just a thought. ;)
 
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Perhaps because a ship was hit in the Strait during a supposed ceasefire? Just a thought. ;)
The MOU gave Iran control of the Hormuz but Oman and trump tried to sneak ships through anyways.
The first part of the agreement was Israel getting out of Lebanon, that was never honoured.

1. The US, Iran, and their allies agree to immediately and permanently end military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon

 

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No, the MOU DID not give Iran control of the Strait! Go ahead and show the evidence you have to prove your claim, I call bullshit on.

You can say Iran wrongly believes it does, but this was not agreed upon in the MOU.
 

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No, the MOU DID not give Iran control of the Strait! Go ahead and show the evidence you have to prove your claim, I call bullshit on.

You can say Iran wrongly believes it does, but this was not agreed upon in the MOU.
Points 2 and 5 of the MOU posted above.
Why do you think point 1 can be ignored and you still think its Iran in the wrong?
 

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Points 2 and 5 of the MOU posted above.
Why do you think point 1 can be ignored and you still think its Iran in the wrong?
Never mind your Twitter crap...here read it, it's from Al Jazeera...


Trump cannot give Iran control of the Strait without looking like he completely caved and lost. I know that is what you want to make up but I'm sure this wasn't the intent of the negotiations.
 

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Never mind your Twitter crap...here read it, it's from Al Jazeera...


Trump cannot give Iran control of the Strait without looking like he completely caved and lost. I know that is what you want to make up but I'm sure this wasn't the intent of the negotiations.
The twitter link listed the full MOU.
Your Al J article confirms what I said.
 

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The twitter link listed the full MOU.
Your Al J article confirms what I said.
Unfortunately for you and Iran, the WH doesn't agree with you because they are bombing once again.

On the side note, I love it. It hurts Trump in the midterms.....so with me, it's fantastic.
 

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Unfortunately for you and Iran, the WH doesn't agree with you because they are bombing once again.

On the side note, I love it. It hurts Trump in the midterms.....so with me, it's fantastic.
Short sighted.

If it starts again a ton of people will be killed in Iran and Israel.
If it starts up bigger it will last a couple of months and the oil shock will be massive, possibly starting a global recession just as the super El Nino hits food production.
Backing war to win the midterms that trump is already losing is kind of a shitty attitude.

He's already screwed the country over enough to lose even if he does live until midterms.

 

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Short sighted.

If it starts again a ton of people will be killed in Iran and Israel.
If it starts up bigger it will last a couple of months and the oil shock will be massive, possibly starting a global recession just as the super El Nino hits food production.
Backing war to win the midterms that trump is already losing is kind of a shitty attitude.

He's already screwed the country over enough to lose even if he does live until midterms.
Sure, Frankie, they should just allow Iran to do as they please. I don't think so. Yes, Trump is a dumbass for starting the war, but now, if he doesn't rein in Iran, they've completely lost.
Tolls should never be allowed and the Strait should be returned to what it was before Trump started this stupid war.
 

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Sure, Frankie, they should just allow Iran to do as they please. I don't think so. Yes, Trump is a dumbass for starting the war, but now, if he doesn't rein in Iran, they've completely lost.
Tolls should never be allowed and the Strait should be returned to what it was before Trump started this stupid war.
Right, only america gets to do what they please.

trump lost the war and Iran is within their rights to control the Hormuz with america blockading Cuba. They should get restitution for the war and Hormuz fees are likely the only way, unless you think trump will actually send them $300 billion.
It'll cost more for shipping and that's all on trump and Netanyahu.
Restarting the war and losing again won't help, trump should just abide by the MOU.

You really think anything will be better with more war?
 

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Right, only america gets to do what they please.

trump lost the war and Iran is within their rights to control the Hormuz with america blockading Cuba. They should get restitution for the war and Hormuz fees are likely the only way, unless you think trump will actually send them $300 billion.
It'll cost more for shipping and that's all on trump and Netanyahu.
Restarting the war and losing again won't help, trump should just abide by the MOU.

You really think anything will be better with more war?

Sure, Frankie. The MoU does not give Iran the unilateral right to control the Strait of Hormuz however it wants, so stop making shit up.

Yes, Trump started this conflict and deserves to pay a political price for it. If voter rage continues, Republicans will lose the midterms. That said, if Iran attempts to restrict or interfere with international navigation in the Strait, the U.S. and its allies would still have a legitimate interest in ensuring freedom of navigation. Military force should be a last resort, but preventing the closure of one of the world's most important shipping lanes is a separate issue from whether the war itself was justified. If they block the Strait, I say do whatever needs to be done, and yes, militarily.
 

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Sure, Frankie. The MoU does not give Iran the unilateral right to control the Strait of Hormuz however it wants, so stop making shit up.

Yes, Trump started this conflict and deserves to pay a political price for it. If voter rage continues, Republicans will lose the midterms. That said, if Iran attempts to restrict or interfere with international navigation in the Strait, the U.S. and its allies would still have a legitimate interest in ensuring freedom of navigation. Military force should be a last resort, but preventing the closure of one of the world's most important shipping lanes is a separate issue from whether the war itself was justified. If they block the Strait, I say do whatever needs to be done, and yes, militarily.
The flip side to that is that Iran allowed the Hormuz to be free passage for centuries and only after a war do they need the income as reparations.
america has no right to demand free passage, though Iran does say Oman controls part of the passage. The MOU says free passage only for 60 days.

Iran won't close it, they will just charge a fee like the Suez or Panama canals, to pay to rebuild after Netanyahu and trumps war.

The western world has no right to passage there, no right to threaten Iran over control and no right to start another stupid war.


 

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The flip side to that is that Iran allowed the Hormuz to be free passage for centuries and only after a war do they need the income as reparations.
america has no right to demand free passage, though Iran does say Oman controls part of the passage. The MOU says free passage only for 60 days.

Iran won't close it, they will just charge a fee like the Suez or Panama canals, to pay to rebuild after Netanyahu and trumps war.

The western world has no right to passage there, no right to threaten Iran over control and no right to start another stupid war.
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