Is hobbying or a girlfriend more expensive?

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Think about where you are in life right now. Ultimately staying single is best, but you should find that out for yourself, get into relationships and have that experience.

Relationships also teach you about yourself and what you really want, like and most of all what you want from others. Sex is just one part of life. There are so many experiences and pleasures that come from having a relationship, having someone that looks at you with admiration, having someone to reach out to without judgement,.etc..

You should also consider, as you age the kind of help you're going to have. Usually people have kids or a partner to help them out or some kind of support system. It will be doubly hard for you to build that support system as a single man, but it can be done.

If you want to be single for the rest of your life you should definitely focus more on envisioning your life for the long haul.

Life is just not about sex man, shit can happen to anyone.

I'd say get some first hand experience and then decide for yourself. You can't put dollar value on relationships.
Marriage/relationships require a high amount of work/time to make them work. Ask yourself this, are you ready to fully commit to all the work?? The good, bad, UGLY.

EVERYONES, experience/ wants will be different. You work 50-60 hours a week at work, come home work all over again. Etc etc etc.

If I could go back 20 years, not a chance. I’m jot the only one. I know married couples that feel the same way, the men at least.
 

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and how many have you had if you've never experienced a materialistic women.

it's call vetting some of you don't have that skill
 

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These conversations make me laugh so hard. I'm an indy escort, and I've never considered income as an important factor for real life relationships.. A relationship isn't a purchase. If you're asking yourself what the ''cost of a relationship'' will be, chances are you are the one who's materialistic and views everything as transactional. Sure maybe there are people who only care about money, but do you really want someone like that in your life? Nah. If all you have to offer is money, the relationship will be miserable anyways
 

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These conversations make me laugh so hard. I'm an indy escort, and I've never considered income as an important factor for real life relationships.. A relationship isn't a purchase. If you're asking yourself what the ''cost of a relationship'' will be, chances are you are the one who's materialistic and views everything as transactional. Sure maybe there are people who only care about money, but do you really want someone like that in your life? Nah. If all you have to offer is money, the relationship will be miserable anyways
So you don't mind dating and then marrying a guy who only takes the bus/train.?
Mind you this is Canada,,, I am sure you know how the bus /train schedules work. I am sure down the road you want the husband/wife to be able to drive and be able to afford a car right?.
Some cities don't have a train.

I know a few pretty boys that don't drive, can't afford it or health issues. They bus / train it all over the place. Why do I call them pretty boys? because their ex girlfriends want to see them so they offer a Uber ( no longer a Taxi which makes the person a materialistic if they only want Uber and not the city taxi ) to have them escorted to their (gf) house for a romping time and next morning she orders the Uber to get him home.

Over time Materialism does take over the brain. Very few can live without a car (materialism depends on the discussion ) and make it to the end of their life without a car.
 

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Marriage/relationships require a high amount of work/time to make them work. Ask yourself this, are you ready to fully commit to all the work?? The good, bad, UGLY.

EVERYONES, experience/ wants will be different. You work 50-60 hours a week at work, come home work all over again. Etc etc etc.

If I could go back 20 years, not a chance. I’m jot the only one. I know married couples that feel the same way, the men at least.
Bro re read what I wrote.
 
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Life is just not about sex man, shit can happen to anyone.

I'd say get some first hand experience and then decide for yourself. You can't put dollar value on relationships.
I think the dollar value is important to him the way he is looking at is this.
- How much will it cost him by time he does the first deed? Then after that until he breaks up with her for what ever reason. He will count the amount of times he had sex with gf and the amount he spent on her / him. Yes some people think differently.

I used to know a guy that - money was time; Mind you for me - that is only valid when you are travelling and you want to see many landmarks and if you are not rich enough to comeback again, sure it make sense if you are not sure when you will return since you want to see other places.

I used to know another guy who would eat the ice of his drinks at the bar. Can you guess why?
 

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I think the dollar value is important to him the way he is looking at is this.
- How much will it cost him by time he does the first deed? Then after that until he breaks up with her for what ever reason. He will count the amount of times he had sex with gf and the amount he spent on her / him. Yes some people think differently.

I used to know a guy that - money was time; Mind you for me - that is only valid when you are travelling and you want to see many landmarks and if you are not rich enough to comeback again, sure it make sense if you are not sure when you will return since you want to see other places.

I used to know another guy who would eat the ice of his drinks at the bar. Can you guess why?
He's gonna be his dentist's retirement plan... 🤓
 

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For most civvie women I have known, the more money a guy seems to have, the more lavish a lifestyle the ladies expect.

They compare their lifestyles to other women who have wealthy husbands or SO's.

And the wealthier the guy gets over the time of the relationship, the more the ladies expect.

Sure, sex providers may increase their rates from time to time, but it's still a generally predictable and gradual fixed cost progression...
 
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imho - Girlfriend because it requires times. Which can get expensive based on how much value you equate with time....and sometimes you may put in a good chunk of time and well........someone may have a headache...you feel me. ;):)
 
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lunaseraphim

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So you don't mind dating and then marrying a guy who only takes the bus/train.?
Mind you this is Canada,,, I am sure you know how the bus /train schedules work. I am sure down the road you want the husband/wife to be able to drive and be able to afford a car right?.
Some cities don't have a train.

I know a few pretty boys that don't drive, can't afford it or health issues. They bus / train it all over the place. Why do I call them pretty boys? because their ex girlfriends want to see them so they offer a Uber ( no longer a Taxi which makes the person a materialistic if they only want Uber and not the city taxi ) to have them escorted to their (gf) house for a romping time and next morning she orders the Uber to get him home.

Over time Materialism does take over the brain. Very few can live without a car (materialism depends on the discussion ) and make it to the end of their life without a car.
No, I don't mind dating someone who doesn't have a car. I'm capable of taking the metro and the bus myself lol I'm independent, I don't need somebody to drive me around. Of course somebody having a car is an advantage but I won't date somebody just because of things they own... I have lived over 30 years without a car. If I want one I'll just end up getting one myself, I don't need somebody else to get it for me and I don't understand how any of this is relevant to the discussion
 

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For me it’s wives, girlfriends, SBs SW. Women are expensive but worth it.
 

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learning game from AI..




Repeatedly attracting materialistic women usually stems from the "filter" you project into the world. By adjusting your approach, your environment, and how you present yourself, you can naturally begin to draw in partners who value personal connection over material wealth.



Several common patterns may be unintentionally attracting these types of partners:

Your Self-Presentation: If your dating profiles or initial conversations heavily feature indicators of wealth (e.g., luxury items, cars, or high-status professions), you act as a magnet for people who prioritize those things.

The Venues You Frequent: Meeting people at high-end clubs, ultra-trendy lounges, or through exclusive apps often selects for a demographic that values status and expensive experiences.


Leading with Financial Favors: Establishing a dynamic where you immediately pay for expensive dates, lavish gifts, or extravagant outings sets an expectation that material exchange is the foundation of your interest.



Prioritizing Physical Appearance Alone: Highly materialistic tendencies are often correlated with a strong focus on outward appearance. If you pursue matches based almost entirely on looks, you may encounter partners who hold similarly superficial metrics for relationships

How to shift your approach:

Lead with shared interests: Choose activities that cost little to no money for early dates (e.g., coffee, a museum, a walk, or a casual local event). This quickly filters out those who are primarily seeking financial transactions.


Change the setting: Try meeting people in community-driven spaces like volunteer groups, local sports leagues, or hobby-focused classes rather than nightlife spots.

Adjust your profile: If you use dating apps, remove mentions of your specific income or flashy lifestyle. Focus your bio on your personality, values, and what you are looking for in an equal partnership.


Observe her values: Pay attention to how she treats service staff, how she speaks about her own passions, and whether she invests emotional effort into getting to know you as a person.
 
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eating out is more expensive or eating at home?
depends on where u eating what u eating, how much effort you putting in cooking. whether you going for fine dining for breakfast lunch dinner or cooking lavish meal at home which takes whole day to cook. it all depends on the choices you make. both can be as expensive as you can imagine and both can be as economical and affordable if you balance it well. spread your legs as much as the cover size.
 
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I've dated both civvies and SPs between 20s to early 30s. I would say SPs are more expensive but you get more out of it, i.e. sex multiple times a day when you are together.

Civvie is more affectionate, more real.

I did note that SPs are more appreciative of the gifts and dates. Civvie seems more entitled or that was just my pool of women.
Hey, I was seeing an SP, then took her on a date. That was our 1st time. Then she said she wanted to continue dating me.

On our 2nd date, I took her on a date as a regular girlfriend.

Now, I'm wondering what to do for the 3rd time we see each other. What's going to happen next. This is the 1st time I've ever dated an escort. Can you share your experiences/tips/red flags I should watch out for?
 
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