40% of Ontario high schoolers and 55.5% of elementary students met attendance standard in 2024-25

Boys often dislike school due to a mismatch between traditional, sedentary teaching methods and their need for active, hands-on learning. A lack of male role models, lower teacher expectations in early grades, and a desire for more autonomy also contribute to disengagement. Many find school boring, irrelevant, or too restrictive.

Key factors for why boys dislike school include:

Learning Style Mismatch: Schools frequently prioritize auditory learning and sitting still, whereas many boys are experiential, hands-on learners who need to move.

Developmental Timing: Boys often develop self-regulation and fine motor skills (essential for writing) later than girls, leading to early frustration and the perception that they are "bad" at school.

Lack of Autonomy: As discussed in this Reddit thread, boys often feel restricted by strict, compliance-driven environments.

Behavioral Misinterpretations: Teachers sometimes interpret high energy as misbehavior, resulting in more punishments and lower grades for boys compared to girls, even with similar test scores.

Going back many many years, schools were set up to teach boys skills. It was recognized that socially successful boys were good. Socially disaffected boys were trouble. It was also useful to teach girls too. However, they were kept separate so as to not distract the boys.

We currently have "equality" in the communism sense. Everyone is not getting their needs met.

The elementary and high school system has really lost the concepts of excellence and trying to get each individual really good at what they can be good at.

There seems to be a difference in the sexes. The boys see school and reject school as not meeting their needs. The girls also reject school, but most of them handle it in a more socially acceptable way.

Muchadoaboutnothing said:

Children’s aid still needs to investigate and then this leads back tot he question of is it worth it to break up a family ? For a child to be raised by strangers ? And are the teachers the type to feel it’s their duty to protect their students ? It seems a lot of society now is a bystander society and don’t feel it’s their responsibility to help anyone but themselves. Quite the issue we have.

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Er...it doesn't matter if the teacher feels the need to protect their students or not, the law is crystal clear that they have a legal obligation to report suspected abuse. That's why a lot of fucked up people in the US tend to homeschool their kids (I'm certainly not saying all of them, but I'm sure a small minority do it for these reasons). The reality of a CAS investigation is that it would take a child out of a situation of sexual or physical abuse. It really doesn't matter where they go, because it would probably be better then staying with an abuser.

schools today teach compliance, obedience and submission this is probably the reason many kids are skipping school



Educate to Indoctrinate: Education Systems Were First Designed to Suppress Dissent


Public primary schools were created by states to reinforce obedience among the masses and maintain social order, rather than serve as a tool for upward social mobility, suggests a study from the University of California San Diego.

The study in the journal American Political Science Review finds historical patterns from 1828 to 2015, across many countries, of education reforms, including the rise of mandatory primary schooling itself, being implemented after instances of social unrest. The research also sheds light on the current controversy in the U.S. over teaching critical race theory.

“The key prediction of the research is that when there are periods of internal conflict, states will introduce education reform that is designed to indoctrinate people to accept the status quo,” said the study’s author Agustina S. Paglayan, a UC San Diego assistant professor with a joint appointment in the Department of Political Science/School of Social Sciences and the School of Global Policy and Strategy.

Paglayan added that while some could interpret this as evidence that states were trying to solve people’s economic woes by investing in education after violent rebellions, historical documents tell a different story.




History Behind The Prussian Model of Education
Fast-forward to 18th-century Prussia, where an entirely different philosophy of education was emerging. The Prussian model of education wasn’t designed to create critical thinkers; it wasn’t even designed for kids. Prussian leaders built it to produce disciplined, obedient soldiers who would follow orders without question.

This was in response to the military weaknesses exposed by Prussia’s defeat by Napoleon. The defeat revealed shortcomings not only in military tactics but also in the population’s readiness and loyalty. This led Prussian leaders to recognize the need for a more unified, reliable, and well-trained citizenry that could support the state’s military and political objectives.

This shift in control allowed the state to decide what children learned and, more importantly, how they learned to think — or rather, not to think. In Prussia, schooling was a tool for control, shaping young people into compliant subjects who wouldn’t question authority or run tail in the face of a canon.

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canada-man said:

Boys often dislike school due to a mismatch between traditional, sedentary teaching methods and their need for active, hands-on learning. A lack of male role models, lower teacher expectations in early grades, and a desire for more autonomy also contribute to disengagement. Many find school boring, irrelevant, or too restrictive.

Key factors for why boys dislike school include:

Learning Style Mismatch: Schools frequently prioritize auditory learning and sitting still, whereas many boys are experiential, hands-on learners who need to move.

Developmental Timing: Boys often develop self-regulation and fine motor skills (essential for writing) later than girls, leading to early frustration and the perception that they are "bad" at school.

Lack of Autonomy: As discussed in this Reddit thread, boys often feel restricted by strict, compliance-driven environments.

Behavioral Misinterpretations: Teachers sometimes interpret high energy as misbehavior, resulting in more punishments and lower grades for boys compared to girls, even with similar test scores.

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this is why Montessori and Waldorf teaching is a great method as it’s all about outdoor and hands on and play as learning. Being at a desk is not normal and is unhealthy I agree

silentkisser said:

Er...it doesn't matter if the teacher feels the need to protect their students or not, the law is crystal clear that they have a legal obligation to report suspected abuse. That's why a lot of fucked up people in the US tend to homeschool their kids (I'm certainly not saying all of them, but I'm sure a small minority do it for these reasons). The reality of a CAS investigation is that it would take a child out of a situation of sexual or physical abuse. It really doesn't matter where they go, because it would probably be better then staying with an abuser.

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Again you’re assuming these teachers are law abiding citizens and feel that they should and whether they do are completely different

Muchadoaboutnothing said:

Again you’re assuming these teachers are law abiding citizens and feel that they should and whether they do are completely different

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I know several teachers. They take that shit seriously. And, if they fail to inform authorities of suspected abuse, they can be fined or fired. I cannot speak for all. Maybe there are some that are pieces of shit who would let that abuse fester. But the VAST majority of teaching professionals would not turn a blind eye to shit like this, and they are the ones that apparently need to contact the authorities. They are also shielded from good faith reporting even if it is shown there is no abuse.

I know it is fashionable for some on this board to shit on teachers, but they wouldn't ignore shit like that.

But if kids can't fail and everybody gets participation ribbons and there's no more scorekeeping in sports then why does attendance even matter? Last I heard kids can't be held back even if they fail every exam. They will graduate high school. So why worry about attendance without fixing the bigger problems? This is pouring perfume on a pig.

princekwekua said:

Having a child out of wedlock is anathema to Indians. But it is the norm to my fellow blacks, with the kids suffering as a result.

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I admire your candour. Do you share these thoughts with your community? Others will not, for fear of being called racist.

social media is a big reason yeah, the amount of people you see that are seriously lacking in brain cells spout what they believe to be objective truth is truly otherworldly and people eat it up and its a vicious circle of stupidity

Iggypapa said:

social media is a big reason yeah, the amount of people you see that are seriously lacking in brain cells spout what they believe to be objective truth is truly otherworldly and people eat it up and its a vicious circle of stupidity

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Don't forget that with AI now a lot of people are falling for the most obvious AI content because they have zero awareness...

silentkisser said:

I know several teachers. They take that shit seriously. And, if they fail to inform authorities of suspected abuse, they can be fined or fired. I cannot speak for all. Maybe there are some that are pieces of shit who would let that abuse fester. But the VAST majority of teaching professionals would not turn a blind eye to shit like this, and they are the ones that apparently need to contact the authorities. They are also shielded from good faith reporting even if it is shown there is no abuse.

I know it is fashionable for some on this board to shit on teachers, but they wouldn't ignore shit like that.

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Well I guess Hamilton and brampton teachers just weren’t good in my experiences. I agree there are a lot of good teachers that do report and sometimes their report isn’t taken seriously when the parents are able to manipulate

Muchadoaboutnothing said:

Well I guess Hamilton and brampton teachers just weren’t good in my experiences. I agree there are a lot of good teachers that do report and sometimes their report isn’t taken seriously when the parents are able to manipulate

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That's fucked up if they didn't. But, that being said, abused kids are usually good at hiding it, sadly...

Why The "Lazy" Student Often Wins In Real Life — And Schools Never Talk About It

Your child's teacher called them lazy. The school put it in the report. You believed it. Here's what nobody told you — the traits that get punished in a classroom are often the exact traits that build something real outside of it.
In this video I break down why the students schools write off so often outperform the ones they celebrate — what the World Economic Forum's 2025 data says employers actually need, the three specific traits schools punish that predict real-world success, and the one question every parent should ask before accepting their child's label as truth.
This is for parents of kids who are struggling in school right now — not because they can't, but because the system was never built for the way their brain works.

Every night your child sits down to do homework — and every night you feel like you're doing the right thing. But what if homework isn't preparing your child for the future? What if it's training them for a world that no longer exists?
In this video I break down what the research actually says about homework, what it's really teaching your child, and why so many high-achieving students walk into the workplace completely unprepared.

Most of us grew up thinking school was supposed to prepare us for life. But somewhere along the way it started doing something else. It made us feel like we were constantly behind, constantly compared, and somehow never good enough.

This video takes a closer look at why that happens. Not in a dramatic way, but in a real and honest look at the system we were all pushed through.
Why does getting good grades never feel like enough?
Why do so many smart and capable people still walk around feeling like they are failing?

We explore where this system came from, how it teaches us to measure our worth through numbers, and why so many of us carry that feeling into adulthood. If you have ever felt like you are falling short even when you are doing everything right, you are not alone and you are not imagining it.

This is not about blaming teachers or students. It is about understanding the structure we all grew up inside.

last video in this thread for today. this modern Prussian style education system is causing mental distress in people young and old.

i myself suffered mental breakdown some 20 years ago in an Ontario college of applied arts and technology. after 20 years of constant tests, exams homework. my brain finally shut down the same way a widows computer shut down to "save itself"

and here is a fun fact to tell school kids

Nobody outside of schools care about your grades and GPA


people are not asking their family doctors what were their grades like in school

canada-man said:

people are not asking their family doctors what were their grades like in school

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They don't need to because it was asked in several prior stages. It was asked to get into uni, then to get into med school, then to pass the licensing exam.

lmao had like over 100+ missed classes and late attendance recorded for my senior year, my AP chem teacher even stopped recording and reporting my late attendance.

still graduated with decent grades and didn’t affect my engineering school application