Steve's Music Store Closing After 50 years

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Maybe it's because musical instruments aren't needed to make hip hop music. All you need for that is a big ego, a baseball cap, a parka, low rider pants, construction boots, auto tunes and brief courses in Brooklyn accent inflections and Joe Cocker hand gestures. It certainly helps if the producer thinks you have a 'purty mouth'.
 

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Sad. Toronto is losing many of its iconic establishments. City is in rapid decline.
 
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Maybe it's because musical instruments aren't needed to make hip hop music. All you need for that is a big ego, a baseball cap, a parka, low rider pants, construction boots, auto tunes and brief courses in Brooklyn accent inflections and Joe Cocker hand gestures. It certainly helps if the producer thinks you have a 'purty mouth'.
All of that is being replaced by AI apps.

 
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I miss the Queen Street West of my youth.Cosmo music closed a couple years ago . Future of music going to be made and listened to on ones phone. Sad.
 

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I miss the Queen Street West of my youth.Cosmo music closed a couple years ago . Future of music going to be made and listened to on ones phone. Sad.
Kops Collectables s still there, im sure...i have,nt been there for quite awhile ...but it used to be my go to for finding vintage Soul and R&B stuff...purchased alot of 45, s there..and i still own a turntable lol
 
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Computers and the internet slowly changed the world. Twenty five years ago when everyone was getting a computer people slowly stopped spending money on things like hunting, fishing, skiing, snowmobiles and motorcycles. Along with computers came technological advancements in music and video and photography that changed the nature of these activities. Young people these days are not learning how to play musical instruments like we did in the dark ages, pre computers/internet.
 

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Steve's music shoppe, Cosmo music, Saved by Technology, and Metro Sound and Music are all gone from the Toronto music scene. Long and Mcquade is King. Some piano stores are still around.
It used to be(70's and 80's) you had to have a lot of money to have a home recording studio. For the last 20 years, it seems anyone with a computer and the approprite software can have one.
 

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Maybe it's because musical instruments aren't needed to make hip hop music. All you need for that is a big ego, a baseball cap, a parka, low rider pants, construction boots, auto tunes and brief courses in Brooklyn accent inflections and Joe Cocker hand gestures. It certainly helps if the producer thinks you have a 'purty mouth'.
global guitar sales has been increasing by about 10% a year for a long time, more people play guitar than ever before. More people buy more guitars. Musicians are better trained, have better technique, and overall are better than ever. This has more to do with the current dynamics of physical retail vs online retail and less to do with the current state of popular music lol also during covid (if I recall correctly) there was a BOOM in guitar sales and fender/gibson had record breaking yesrs and that momentum carried into 2021/2022 but I would sssume that slowed down and hasn’t been sustained
 

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Prices for high-end and mid-level new guitars are getting nuts.

I was at L&M on Bloor yesterday, and saw a new, but factory aged (Tom Murphy aged?), Gibson ES-335 dot neck guitar with a price tag of over $12,000.

Even an Epiphone SG solid body was around $2,000.

How many young musicians can afford those prices in these times?

The store was super quiet...
 

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Prices for high-end and mid-level new guitars are getting nuts.

I was at L&M on Bloor yesterday, and saw a new, but factory aged (Tom Murphy aged?), Gibson ES-335 dot neck guitar with a price tag of over $12,000.

Even an Epiphone SG solid body was around $2,000.

How many young musicians can afford those prices in these times?

The store was super quiet...
Agree that new guitars are getting quite out of reach. But there are still great opportunities in the used market. I’ve bought a dozen or so guitars in the last 20 years and none have been new. They don’t need to be. Used ones can be cheaper (unless they are ultra vintage models), all the little things that a new guitar has to do to fully settle in and be set up perfectly has likely been done, and they often can have some “mojo” at least a lot more than a new made in china Epiphone, etc. while the online market offers great access to these instruments, the small music shops were such a good place to find a treasure/ diamond in the rough, allowing you to play it, compare with other instruments and also get a pro to look it over before you buy. Sadly most are disappearing.
 
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Agree that new guitars are getting quite out of reach. But there are still great opportunities in the used market. I’ve bought a dozen or so guitars in the last 20 years and none have been new. They don’t need to be. Used ones can be cheaper (unless they are ultra vintage models), all the little things that a new guitar has to do to fully settle in and be set up perfectly has likely been done, and they often can have some “mojo” at least a lot more than a new made in china Epiphone, etc. while the online market offers great access to these instruments, the small music shops were such a good place to find a treasure/ diamond in the rough, allowing you to play it, compare with other instruments and also get a pro to look it over before you buy.
If you have a Chinese guitar, you'll want to play it again after an hour.
 

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Prices for high-end and mid-level new guitars are getting nuts.

I was at L&M on Bloor yesterday, and saw a new, but factory aged (Tom Murphy aged?), Gibson ES-335 dot neck guitar with a price tag of over $12,000.

Even an Epiphone SG solid body was around $2,000.

How many young musicians can afford those prices in these times?

The store was super quiet...
I remember when a custom shop ES-335 was $4,500 - $5,200…. But you could still get regular ES-335 for $3,400
 
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Name as many great guitarists as you can who were born after 1980.
that’s an insanely long list, since 1980 there’s been a whole generation of classical guitarists alone who are both technically brilliant and stylistically diverse. Same could be said about a lot of jazz guitarists. If your idea of a “great guitarist” is somewhere between the edge and Eddie Van halen then you might not know a lot about guitarists
 
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that’s an insanely long list, since 1980 there’s been a whole generation of classical guitarists alone who are both technically brilliant and stylistically diverse. Same could be said about a lot of jazz guitarists. If your idea of a “great guitarist” is somewhere between the edge and Eddie Van halen then you might not know a lot about guitarists
You didn't provide even one name from that 'insanely long list'.
 
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