War with Iran

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and if this proves to be a failure and Iran technically wins strategically, then what?
We will have to see.
The thing is, the US and Israel are in a war already. You can’t undo it. So they better at least achieve the objective of destroying the Islamic regime’s military capability
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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And then Europe and Australia will have to cut a deal with China to get their oil and fertilizer. And the American Empire will have quietly ended forever
Not sure you know this, but Canada is the largest fertilizer (potash) producing country in the world.

We supply almost all of America's fertilizer
 
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mandrill

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That is a known formula, known to all before the war started. The war proves it but it doesn’t send any new message in that regard.

And the Islamic regime + nukes, ballistic rockets, long range drones etc - is a very bad formula.

The desirable objective, afaik is to destroy the regime’s military capability. And if it also triggers, in the end, a regime change to something more cooperative with the west, that will be a great bonus.
But none of this was properly planned by the US. Only 1 aircraft carrier in the region and no ground troops. The US simply isn't ready to fight a war. And Iran has a huge armed forces.
 

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Of course as a parent I don’t want my children to die in a war. But sometimes people choose to go to war and sacrifice their lives.
I also don’t want my children and their children to live in a world full of Islamic terror and die in a terrorist attack, or live under the fucking sharia law.
Wars are inevitable part of human history, sadly, and sometimes unavoidable.
Regardless what led to this war, if we ended up having it already, I prefer it achieves the above mentioned objectives. It is in my children’s interest.
You surely write like a zionist but many don't like living in Israel, here we go:
1. Never ending conflicts...often Isreal is the perpetrator then plays victim. Shelters are a way of life
2. Mandatory military service...except for the Epstein class hiding in the western countries
3. Discrimination against Arab citizens and Ethiopian jews aka Falashas
4. Conflict between religious (especially Orthodox Jewish) and secular populations...I often say, give Isreal peace and the country will collapse, a continuous state of chaos keeps in functional hence the endless wars
5. Highly fragmented political system with frequent elections and coalition instability.
6. Highly diverse society: Jewish (various backgrounds), Arab, Druze, Bedouin, and others...often racism is common
7. Ah, my favorite; the shared Judeo-Christian values while Jesus burns in poop matter...then see how Christians are treated, read the latest here
8. Israel is the # 1 haven for pedophiles worldwide

Be my guest, go live in the land you fight for just as the Palestinian do, do not fill Ben Gurion airport with mass exodus when the going gets tough.

I for one will move to any Sheikhstan any day.
 
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This video is very good. The war is now a technical military problem and Cappy goes into the fine details.
 
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Did it occur to anyone that this quagmire is being done intentionally to screw the rest of the world for a long time.

And it's good for a return on shareholders investments. $

Meanwhile almost everyone here suddenly has become some kind of expert in military combat and strategy saying what they should do.😂
 
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Butler1000

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If the military thought the Vietnam footage was bad for morale just wait. This time everyone, and every drone has a camera. And ours all going to go up on the net. The USA citizens are not paying attention to Ujraine but that is what is happening there.

It's likely people will have footage of their own family members deaths released as propaganda.
 

Butler1000

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Did it occur to anyone that this quagmire is being done intentionally to screw the rest of the world for a long time.

And it's good for a return on shareholders investments. $

Meanwhile almost everyone here suddenly has become some kind of expert in military combat and strategy saying what they should do. ,😂
Yup. And quite simply there is no good strategy here. Just a grinding attrition. No matter how you look at it.
 
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Yup. And quite simply there is no good strategy here. Just a grinding attrition. No matter how you look at it.
Maybe grinding attrition is the strategy for the reason POPewlar pointed out.
If that's the case, the soundness of the strategy should be assessed by the merits of its own objectives and success.
 

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Maybe grinding attrition is the strategy for the reason POPewlar pointed out.
If that's the case, the soundness of the strategy should be assessed by the merits of its own objectives and success.
I think that Trump was fooled. Bibi wanted this to hurt/destroy all the gulf states so he can continue expanding into Gaza and Lebanon. He also saw that in ten years its likely Isreal will lose significant USA support so is going for it now.

There are a shit ton of other axes bring ground here. Anti China, Anti Europe, excuses to dominate closer to home, and lots and lots of graft.
 
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I think that Trump was fooled. Bibi wanted this to hurt/destroy all the gulf states so he can continue expanding into Gaza and Lebanon. He also saw that in ten years its likely Isreal will lose significant USA support so is going for it now.

There are a shit ton of other axes bring ground here. Anti China, Anti Europe, excuses to dominate closer to home, and lots and lots of graft.
I think you're giving this too much thought. I would put it at one madman with ambition, BIBI, leading another madman with half a brain which is decaying into being his sidekick and who happens to have the big toys.
 
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