Lindsey Graham =frocio, culattone , and a dangerous, tormented, closeted Trump sycophant .
This guy is a “kompromat” like Trump
Trump gives Iran 48-hour ultimatum to reopen Strait of Hormuz: 'Hit and obliterate'
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This guy is a “kompromat” like Trump
Feel free to post the Israeli news on the story to prove the news itself is fake.
Oh, what's that? You can't because Israel censors all war news?
So what is the argument, here?
The story is correct, but because Israel censors all war news, it is correct and appropriate to illustrate the real story with file footage from Ukraine?
You know the drill with him. If it tars and feathers Israel, it's all good. Presenting him with facts with sources while refuting his bullshit is exhausting, and I'm not interested enough in this board to assume a role of fact checking him.
Frank, want to know a difference between you and I? This conflict has three sides to the story - you choose to only see one, especially with your crazy social media echo chamber. But I'm sure your sources are right - Israel slaughtered 800 of their own on 10/7, (forensics be damned) Bibi has been dead for weeks, (even though networks have been in the same room as him) and Iran is kicking the US and Israel's asses, with hundreds of casualties not being reported. (meantime CNN, with feet on the street everywhere, has literally been giddy reporting casualties with no filters)
You define the words "useful" and "idiot." The producers of Season 6 of Homeland woulda loved you.
Fact checking on a board like this is generally a pointless effort, which is why I'm more interested in seeing how these people go down their rabbit holes.
Yes.
It was sloppy posting, but given that posting images of war damage in Israel would put you in prison, its not surprising that something else was posted.
Not to mention, being exposed as a journalist in Israel is a death sentence these days.
Right, maniac, you see one other side to trump's attack on Iran, that side reported by Israel and american media, which you assume are truthful.
And you argue my posts are extreme positions.
Is this the third side to the story?
Americans Believe War Against Iran Benefits Israel More Than US
Several polls have shown that the Middle East conflict is unpopular. A plurality of all voters said Israel has too much influence over the US as well.
israelpalestinenews.org
Got it.
So from now on, posting verifiably fake material (this file footage from Ukraine, a house burning in New Jersey, an edited clip of Trump speaking about something else) is not a sign of an unreliable source, but just proof that the source is good because they had to post false material to evade Israel?
What I find more interesting is that for the most part, nobody is really curious to find out.
You'll hit a xitter post to look for the easy hit but don't actually seem to be curious at all about figuring out what the real story is.
Its like you and maniac read the times of Israel and NYT headlines and assume that's the full story.
For instance, you would likely argue this post is fantasy as there will be no mention of it in Israeli or american press.
But can you be sure with Israeli censorship?
Lebanon claims to have hit 100 Merkava tanks, they have video of quite a few hits.
But that won't appear in western media either?
How do you know whether its true or not?
Right, from now on we will post only Israeli headlines or those from either CNN or CBS.
That is the only news now to be trusted.
its antisemitic to suggest otherwise.
Everything else is fake news.
I subscribe to a feed that accurately reports on Israeli casualties - definitely higher than what say, the JPOST reports, but hardly the level of armageddon that your videos always seem to depict before they're debunked.Right, maniac, you see one other side to trump's attack on Iran, that side reported by Israel and american media, which you assume are truthful.
And you argue my posts are extreme positions.
Is this the third side to the story?
Americans Believe War Against Iran Benefits Israel More Than US
Several polls have shown that the Middle East conflict is unpopular. A plurality of all voters said Israel has too much influence over the US as well.
I'll say it once and once only, and hope you are opening your ears.
I'm against this war. I understand it (Iran funding and arming Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthis doesn't help) but am defiantly against this - I think I'm in the minority amongst Jews on this but will research that first. There is only way to have change happen, and that's up to the 90M or so that live in Iran. Bombing the shit out of Iran will not only not solve anything, but will most likely plunge the region into a real war, and provide the world an oil shock we don't want to live through.
In short, this is a gigantic wag the dog mistake and it's making 2026 already feel like it's 28 months long.
Agreed. If the Iranian people had taken advantage of the first couple of weeks of the conflict to rise up and overthrow the regime, like Trump assumed they would, the attacks would have made sense.
Netanyahu is part of the problem and needs to go as well. There is no hope for a lasting peace with the Palestinians. They will rebuild and rearm as fast as they can.
What the Israeli settlers are doing in the West Bank is horrendous, especially with the IDF turning a blind eye.
We are now on a path that is proving to be disastrous for the Middle East, Europe, and North America, but I don't think Trump is willing to accept the loss of face.
And the U.S. politicians, and even the U.S. public, are so polarized that most of them are blind to these current realities.
Also, how could the U.S. politicians turn a blind eye to the effects on the American public of the funding shutdown, and go on vacation until April 16 without fixing it?
Then share your feed, if you can. I'm looking for more accurate news.
I'm glad to hear you are against this war but really, the change that needs to happen is with the 7 million Jews in Israel and the 7 million Palestinians.
Iran has a repressive government but so do a lot of countries, none are as warlike and shitty as Israel.
It was Israel that had america attack Iran.
They will forever be the aggressors as they are the occupiers of Palestine.
Mossad tried to push a revolt in January but all that happened is they got a few thousand people killed, all agents were identified and the regime cracked down harder.
There is no hope for lasting peace with Israel and anyone at this point.
How do you think americans can ever support Israel again after the genocide and this war on Iran?
On the contrary.
I often want to find out what the real story is.
Since starting from xitter is an idiotic thing to do, I don't do that.
"Is Netanyahu dead and has been replaced by an AI copy" isn't that interesting.
"Why do Twitter-people believe Netanyahu is dead and has been replaced by an AI copy" is.
Can't speak for maniac, but only an absolute nutjob would assume that, especially with those two sources about Israel.
Your own twitter post says it has been reported in Israeli media.
They even go out of their way to quote the sources they claim to be using.
"(Sources: Channel 13 Israel, Al Jazeera on-ground reporters, Hezbollah military media, IDF Home Front Command – verification ongoing.)"
Anyone who wanted to verify that tweet would go there.
The fact this tweet named its sources (and that there are many being cross-referenced) are all signs of credibility. (Obviously, one would want to check and verify and see if this account is accurate and consistent.)
There have been repeated reports of attacks in that area over the last few weeks.
Since that post appears to be dated from less than two hours ago today, one would monitor those various other sources and cross reference and see if things bore out.
We are a long LONG way from a time when Thomas Friedman was breaking stories for the NYT in the region. The Times is a shell of its former great self, and I've never even subscribed to the Times of Israel - just JPost, Haaretz and a few wire-style feeds that provide things like simple casualty reports (e.g. my Israel Reports feed suggests at least 5 IDF soldiers have died in Lebanon since they invaded this week). If the feed offers an opinion? I'm less interested in it. Give me the facts on the ground, whether its counting bodies, wounded, anti-war demonstrations (which BTW is absolutely being under-reported in Israel) any of that.
I'll argue until the day I pass that Israel was justified in its' invasion and declaration of war on Hamas on Oct 8, 2023, and to a larger extent, Gaza. Were they too bloodthirsty? Fuck yes.
I'll also argue until the day I pass that this war is completely unjustified, with real war crimes and and a rare moment where I agree with you on one theory - Bibi has real dirt on Trump. No way this happens without that element.
Wait, now you are saying the xitter has good sources?
Can you find any Israeli news source that states how many Merkava's have been lost?
Do you trust the number of american fatalities reported?
Like I keep saying, there is a lot of xit on the xitter, but there is still there that isn't making the news and more current news.
Like that 2hr old post.
The areas we agree on seem to be getting larger, which is good. The Iran war, the trump blackmail and the state of the media in Israel and Lebanon.
Where do you sit on the stated goal of invading Lebanon?
Hezbollah is claiming they've destroyed over 100 Merkava, while there are reports of 21 being destroyed in one ambush. Either of which would be more than 5 IDF if one week.
Trump said he destroyed their nuclear program twice, yet the bombing continues. It is only a matter of time before a third party nation furnishes Iran with a nuke. Will will you say then?
