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@Frankfooter go to the 17.50 point to hear what Joe Biden did right after the attack on Oct. 7th, yet you threw the Dems and Kamala under the bus and cheered on Trump. Well, you now have your wish and the fallout to Palestine, Lebanon and Iran, enjoy! Your fault!!! ;)


Biden never called out Netanyahu and withheld aid or did anything but support the genocide.
How many UN resolutions calling for a ceasefire did he veto?
How many billions did he send Israel to bomb kids?

Doesn't hold water.

 

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President declares Iran must 'open up the Strait of Trump'
Story by Katie Hawkinson
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The Independent

President Donald Trump has insisted Iran must “open up the Strait of Trump” and complained about not winning the Nobel Peace Prize in a meandering speech at the Future Investment Initiative Institute summit in Miami, Florida.
The president claimed Iran is “begging to make a deal” with the U.S. before he referred to the Strait of Hormuz as the “Strait of Trump” during the Friday evening event.

“We're negotiating now, and it’d be great if we could do something, but they have to open it up. They have to open up the Strait of Trump — I mean, Hormuz. Excuse me, I'm so sorry, such a terrible mistake,” Trump said.
“The fake news will say he accidentally said — there's no accidents with me, not too many. If there were, we'd have a major story,” he added.

The president’s remarks come a day after he announced a 10-day pause on strikes against Iran’s energy plants.
The president also used his speech to again complain about not winning the Nobel Peace Prize last year.
“If I don't get the Nobel Prize for peace, nobody will ever get it. I didn't get it. I'm not surprised. The person that got it was shocked — she’s a wonderful woman too, by the way,” he said.
Venezuelan opposition leader María Corina Machado won the prize in 2025 and later presented her award to the president, who called the offer “such a wonderful gesture of mutual respect” at the time.

President Donald Trump has again complained that he did not win the Nobel Peace Prize (AP)
The president told attendees he wants to be known as a “great peacemaker.”
“I know it doesn't sound right for me to say this, but I'd love my legacy to be made as a great peacemaker, because I really believe I’m a peacemaker. It doesn’t seem it right now, but I think I'm a peacemaker,” he said.

The president again boasted he has “stopped eight wars”, a claim which has been repeatedly debunked.

The death toll continues to climb in the conflict in Iran started by the U.S. and Israel last month. Eighteen people have died in Israel and four Israeli soldiers have been killed in Lebanon, according to the Associated Press. Two Israeli soldiers were severely injured in Lebanon on Friday during an “operational accident,” the military said.
Authorities said more than 1,100 people have died in Lebanon and over 1,900 people have been killed in Iran. At least 13 American troops have been killed and four people in the occupied West Bank and 20 in Gulf Arab states have also died.

While the president was speaking Friday evening, the AP reported an Iranian missile attack wounded at least 10 American service members at Prince Sultan Air Base, according to two U.S. officials familiar with the situation. Two of the troops were seriously wounded, one of the officials told AP.

Residents and emergency workers sift through rubble of a residential building that was hit in an airstrike in the early hours of Friday in Tehran, Iran (Getty)

Residents and emergency workers sift through rubble of a residential building that was hit in an airstrike in the early hours of Friday in Tehran, Iran (Getty)
During his remarks, Trump also played a clip of CNN’s chief data analyst Harry Enten discussing an NBC News poll last week. The survey found 100 percent of MAGA voters support the president.
Enten also recently gave Trump a “reality check” about his popularity.
“President Trump is quite popular with MAGA. MAGA very much enjoys this war. They very much love the president,” Enten said Thursday on CNN’s “The Source.”

President Donald Trump played a clip of CNN analyst Harry Enten discussing an NBC News poll that found 100 percent of MAGA voters support him (Getty Images)

President Donald Trump played a clip of CNN analyst Harry Enten discussing an NBC News poll that found 100 percent of MAGA voters support him (Getty Images)
“But of course, they are just a certain portion of the electorate. When you expand it out, the reality check is this: Donald Trump has never been more unpopular in his second term in office,” he added.
A Reuters/Ipsos poll released Tuesday found the president’s overall approval rating is now at 36 percent, marking its lowest point since he took office last year.
 
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Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman privately urged Donald Trump to put American ground troops inside Iran and seize the country’s energy infrastructure to force regime change. The New York Times reported this on March 24 citing people briefed by American officials. MBS told Trump that Iran poses a permanent threat that “cannot be managed through diplomacy but only ended through regime change.”

He specifically advocated seizing Kharg Island, the hub through which most of Iran’s oil exports flow.

Then on March 28, Trump stood at the Saudi-backed Future Investment Initiative summit in Miami and said this about MBS: “He didn’t think he would be kissing my ass, he really didn’t. But now he has to be nice to me.” The man who privately begged America to fight his existential war got publicly humiliated at his own conference. And he cannot respond. Because the alternative is worse.

Saudi Arabia has absorbed over 575 Iranian drone and missile strikes since February 28 per the Saudi Ministry of Defense. Twelve US troops were injured when Iranian missiles hit Prince Sultan Air Base. Iran’s IRGC called MBS’s private push “confirmation that Riyadh is America’s client, not its partner” and warned that any Saudi participation in ground operations would make “every Saudi city a legitimate military target.”

MBS takes the humiliation. He takes the strikes. He takes the IRGC threat. Because if this war ends before the Iranian regime falls, he faces what he told Trump would be an “emboldened and furious” Iran on his border with the capacity to rebuild everything that was just destroyed.

Here is what nobody is connecting. Kharg Island handles roughly 90 percent of Iran’s oil exports. If the United States seizes it per MBS’s reported advocacy, Iran loses its primary revenue source permanently. Saudi Arabia becomes the unchallenged dominant oil exporter in the Persian Gulf precisely during the transition period when MBS needs maximum oil revenue to fund Vision 2030’s $900 billion transformation.

Remove Iran’s barrels from the market and Saudi crude commands higher prices at higher volumes for the exact decade MBS needs to build NEOM, diversify the economy, and consolidate domestic power. This is not just a security calculation. It is an economic one.

The crown prince is asking America to eliminate his country’s largest commercial competitor while framing it as a security necessity. And the financial architecture is visible. The Saudi Public Investment Fund, controlled by MBS, invested $2 billion in Affinity Partners, the private equity firm of Jared Kushner per the New York Times. Kushner is now one of Trump’s volunteer negotiators on Iran per White House statements. The man negotiating the end of this war received $2 billion from the man pushing to continue it.

The Washington Post reported that Saudi and Israeli officials privately pushed Trump to launch the strikes before the war began, even as US intelligence assessed Iran did not pose an imminent threat. The Wall Street Journal reported that a source said MBS is “close to a decision to join the attacks.” A second source: “It is only a matter of time before the kingdom enters the war.”

MBS funded the negotiator. Lobbied for the invasion. Hosted the summit where he was humiliated. Absorbed 575 strikes. And still needs the war to continue.

The question is not whether this war serves American interests. The question is whose interests started it. Full analysis: https://open.substack.com/pub/shanakaans
 

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Biden never called out Netanyahu and withheld aid or did anything but support the genocide.
How many UN resolutions calling for a ceasefire did he veto?
How many billions did he send Israel to bomb kids?

Doesn't hold water.
Of course, you will still tell your narrative and nonsense no matter what. Just like you keep clinging to BIBI's demise.
 
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