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Pierre Poilievre interview on The Joe Rogan Experience podcast complete.

DesRicardo

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OH MY GOD!!! You really have no idea on the details of the bill, or what it means. I get it, you're not a lawyer, but Ottawa CANNOT just circumvent the provinces will, no matter how much you wish they could. Again, we are a nation of laws, and Mark Carney is not a dictator. Either is Danielle Smith, so she can't just start building a pipeline to the coast.

Maybe read something other than Rebel or True North. You really should read the CBC, because they would illuminate a lot of things that you obviously missed in high school...
You are right he’s not a dictator. The Bill was voted on and passed.

You’re showing why things don’t get done. Carney is giving veto power to people that have no real veto power in this situation. All he’s required to do is consultant. You don’t need Eby to say yes.
 
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Pierre Poilievre, (would have been pronounced poyul-eever, by Foster Hewitt), is fiscally responsible, and wants to reduce the price of government. I once overheard a member of his caucus referring to him as ' that little cost-cutter ', or something similar.
 

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I'm sorry, which part of what I said is a conspiracy theory? Just so I can accurately rebut.

And you make it sound like leaving your home country and leaving behind hordes of family, friends and loved ones is as simple as packing a bag and saying toodle loo. What about my investments, properties and financial interests? Just leave it all behind and start again anew in some place foreign to me because of the government? Might be easy for someone like you with 3 sets of clothes and a cat but for the rest of us that's a monumental task.One I shouldn't even have to consider.
Makes you think how shitty other countries must be that people would leave everything to come here.
Wouldn't it be smarter to just try to make other countries less shitty so they don't have to leave?

Here's a good list of where PeePee was bullshitting on Rogan.
 
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Hate to break it to you, but we are a country governed by laws, and Carney, no matter how much you both hate and wish that he was, is not a dictator. You realize that there are numerous levels of governments and First Nations to deal with? Now, I'm willing to bet you don't give a fuck about the indigenous peoples or their rights, but not getting them on board will just mean problems later on. And, while Carney can give Ottawa's approval, the bureaucrats still need to do their jobs. Then you need the provinces to agree. Alberta is going to rubber stamp anything, but BC has more issues.

This shows your lack of understanding on how our government works.
To be fair to him, government does not work. It's full of corruption, waste and inefficiency. The more bureaucratic layers that are added, the more roadblocks to actually achieving something worthwhile. It's why Canada went from a strong economic situation coming out of the '08/'09 recession to a cratoring economic situation now. Bureaucracy exploded in the mid 2010s and hasn't slowed down, at least until very recently.
 

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To be fair to him, government does not work. It's full of corruption, waste and inefficiency. The more bureaucratic layers that are added, the more roadblocks to actually achieving something worthwhile. It's why Canada went from a strong economic situation coming out of the '08/'09 recession to a cratoring economic situation now. Bureaucracy exploded in the mid 2010s and hasn't slowed down, at least until very recently.
New layers of bureaucracy are an important component of job-creation statistics.
 
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silentkisser

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You don’t know the platform but you are against it?

You shouldn’t even speak.
Did I say I was against it? No. I asked you to show what he wants to do. Fairly simple. You could copy and paste it. But, maybe it doesn't exist. Maybe you don't know how to google. Maybe that's just too much effort....I mean, you seem to think its superior to what Carney is doing now, but offer no proof.
 

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I almost feel sorry for people like you. Almost....
You should be more self-reflective. You obviously need to put some effort into critical thinking and maybe some independent thought. Maybe read a book or two on how the Canadian constitution divides powers between the provinces and the federal government. It might shock you.
 
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You are right he’s not a dictator. The Bill was voted on and passed.

You’re showing why things don’t get done. Carney is giving veto power to people that have no real veto power in this situation. All he’s required to do is consultant. You don’t need Eby to say yes.
Jesus, you are dense. The bill does not erase other laws that require consultation with the provinces and First Nations. Failing to do so will likely result in blockades, violence and delays. Now, I'm sure you'd be all up for the RCMP or what not to crack skulls to move the protesters out...but that would likely make things worse.

You continue to show you have NO CLUE how Canada's laws work. As I told @SaulGoodman777, read a book or use google and find out the separation of power between the provinces and Ottawa. And understand the treaties that we've signed with the First Nations. Then, finally, realize that the bill you're referring to does not erase all of that.
 

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To be fair to him, government does not work. It's full of corruption, waste and inefficiency. The more bureaucratic layers that are added, the more roadblocks to actually achieving something worthwhile. It's why Canada went from a strong economic situation coming out of the '08/'09 recession to a cratoring economic situation now. Bureaucracy exploded in the mid 2010s and hasn't slowed down, at least until very recently.
I am not going to say any level of government in Canada is perfect. Far from it. We need accountability from our elected officials. Now, I will say there is probably waste and some inefficiencies, but I highly doubt the corruption part. I know it isn't a popular sentiment with some, but our public servants are hard working people. I've had to deal with them for several different reasons (from passports and pensions) and they've always been professional and helpful. Do we have too many? Maybe. But I don't believe we added more layers of red tape. I could be wrong.
 
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To be fair to him, government does not work. It's full of corruption, waste and inefficiency. The more bureaucratic layers that are added, the more roadblocks to actually achieving something worthwhile. It's why Canada went from a strong economic situation coming out of the '08/'09 recession to a cratoring economic situation now. Bureaucracy exploded in the mid 2010s and hasn't slowed down, at least until very recently.
And yet its not bureaucracy that's causing high unemployment, expensive housing and declining wages.
DoFo cut taxes to corporations and the rich and all we get is private health care, crumbling schools and tons of homeless.

tax the rich and pay for it all
 

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Did I say I was against it? No. I asked you to show what he wants to do. Fairly simple. You could copy and paste it. But, maybe it doesn't exist. Maybe you don't know how to google. Maybe that's just too much effort....I mean, you seem to think its superior to what Carney is doing now, but offer no proof.
It is fairly simple. Go do the work for yourself lazy ass.

if you don’t know what he’s about, stop talking.
 
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Jesus, you are dense. The bill does not erase other laws that require consultation with the provinces and First Nations. Failing to do so will likely result in blockades, violence and delays. Now, I'm sure you'd be all up for the RCMP or what not to crack skulls to move the protesters out...but that would likely make things worse.

You continue to show you have NO CLUE how Canada's laws work. As I told @SaulGoodman777, read a book or use google and find out the separation of power between the provinces and Ottawa. And understand the treaties that we've signed with the First Nations. Then, finally, realize that the bill you're referring to does not erase all of that.
That’s why you should listen to the interview.

they do all the necessary steps to make sure no laws are violated with minimal impact to the environment. Go do the search for yourself, once it’s a project of national interest, decisions are made at the federal level to speed things up.

consultation is not consent.
 
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DesRicardo

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Why should I? You keep putting out the dumbest and most ignorant bullshit possible. Maybe you should be the one to STFU.
Poilievre does a full interview and your whole stance is “I won’t listen to it”.

Then why even talk? If you don’t want to be informed and take marching orders from the Liberals then just say it and be done.
At least I can say I listen to what Carney says.
 
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Poilievre does a full interview and your whole stance is “I won’t listen to it”.

Then why even talk? If you don’t want to be informed and take marching orders from the Liberals then just say it and be done.
At least I can say I listen to what Carney says.
Typical liberal mindset. 'I'm against his policies.'.... 'What are his policies?' .....'I don't know, but I'm against them.' 🤷‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️
 

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Typical liberal mindset. 'I'm against his policies.'.... 'What are his policies?' .....'I don't know, but I'm against them.' 🤷‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️
PeePee's bullshitting and bad policies are listed here.
Did you read them?

 
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PeePee's bullshitting and bad policies are listed here.
Did you read them?

P.P. is never going to become Prime Minister of Canada! He won his leadership review only because the Conservatives have run out of "sacrificial lambs" to lead to the slaughter!
 

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So you can't see it but Rogan and a ton of other people can. Clearly the problem is with everyone else.
"Famously stupid Joe Rogan agrees with me," isn't the flex you think it is.

And yes, the problem is with people pretending there is a sixth finger there. I can kind of see some people seeing the fold beneath his pinkie and thinking it is another finger at first glance.
I'm pretty sure some people are just lying and hyping the false narrative though.
It's X - misinformation is rewarded and people have incentives to be full of shit.

Nope, don't know why you made up that claim.
You said none of Ghivir's proof of life counted until the site visit.
He, like Netanyahu, released a bunch of videos between when he went "missing" and was "maybe dead" and that appearance.
Presumably, you think all of those were AI too, since you said none of those counted.
Was it something twitter didn't talk about, and you just decided they didn't count on your own?

Again, Israeli media censorship means that these videos and these posts are the news. I posted this as rumour, you joined late and declared I was saying its absolutely true, which is just you pushing your own narrative again. This is all part of how this story spread and why it still hasn't gone away. So AI Netanyahu will rule until there is real proof he's back.
Re: Netanyahu.
Public appearances don't count, then?
Since you've arbitrarily declared everything is AI, he will never be able to prove otherwise to your satisfaction.

But back to the first point - those posts are fake. They have fake things in them.
My critique has been you are bad at critically assessing sources.
Your counter has been to post sources that are including fake videos and information.
You do understand why this only reinforces the view that you don't know how to critically assess sources, right?

You really have zero ability to spot AI slop.
You do well with sources but not so much with AI.
A question then, do you actually think this has six fingers?
If you don't, and think it is "AI slop" for another reason, why are you claiming the hands prove it?

Which means that for you these views are true and they are the views of the Israeli government.
Why would they not be if the government is releasing AI videos just to trick you?
(And even faking that they were "leaked".)

Oh wait, if these were "leaked" then they are AI videos being made by Israel's opponents which means they must not be the views of the Israeli government.
 
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