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Trump gives Iran 48-hour ultimatum to reopen Strait of Hormuz: 'Hit and obliterate'

squeezer

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Meanwhile, the child fucker in chief's dementia means he can't even hold a press conference without creeping on women.
Now, be truthful, you know 99% of us on this board, whether we would actually say it in public is another thing because most of us have more sense than the dementia riddled diaper Don, but truly if a woman is hot, in our minds regardless of what is going on around us in the world, we would be envisioning her naked.
 

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As I mentioned before, the US and Israel have been allies for years and years. It's very unlikely any US President would change that, but the difference is, BIBI has had the perfect chump, grifter and conman in the White House today who has given him the reins to the US military.
They enabled it. Both Trump and Biden. It's really that simple. There is no "side" here. It was both party leadership supporting, and continuing to support it. Now Biden and other adminsdud not support an Iran war. But that was because they saw the problem with the Strait.

Israel should have been reigned in the first negotiator assassination. With Palestine.

But there is consensus. Right now the Dems are secretly in support of this as well. Both because they want it, and because of the damage to Trump.

There is a whole lot of Amoral to go around.
 
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Now, be truthful, you know 99% of us on this board, whether we would actually say it in public is another thing because most of us have more sense than the dementia riddled diaper Don, but truly if a woman is hot, in our minds regardless of what is going on around us in the world, we would be envisioning her naked.
Of course, but the point is that his mind is so addled that he has no filters and no memory.

Sorry this will be too big an image, but its worth reading a transcription of trump to see how far gone he is. His use of language gets worse daily, like 'unsecret'.

 

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I'm still trying to figure out what threat existed for Iran to need a nuclear weapon for deterrence.
Why do they need long range ballistic missiles? Where is the threat to Iran?

I think you inadvertently made the argument for the need to attack Iran below.
Why does any country need nukes? I mean, does Israel, India, Pakistan and North Korea need them? I don't recall the US or its allies attacking their development programs. And, as Russia is showing, just because you have nukes doesn't mean you use them. We all know they've threatened to deploy them if NATO intervenes, but Ukraine has repeatedly attacked the mother land and hasn't been nuked yet. So the whole point that Iran is just going to take any opportunity to nuke anyone is pretty lame.

Now, to clarify, I think the world would probably be significantly better off without ANY country having nuclear weapons. They are just so dangerous. Now, I know there are arguments that having MAD has likely prevented a significant world war (though hundreds, if not thousands of small conflicts), so maybe there is some good with the nuclear Sword of Damocles hanging over our heads...
 

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Now, be truthful, you know 99% of us on this board, whether we would actually say it in public is another thing because most of us have more sense than the dementia riddled diaper Don, but truly if a woman is hot, in our minds regardless of what is going on around us in the world, we would be envisioning her naked.
Like the model-type lass who greeted me when I took my dog for grooming. Men, I had some thoughts - like a lap dance followed by .... 🥰
 
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15 million barrels of oil a day flows through the neighbouring Red Sea, which so far is unaffected by this crazy war.
Trump is sending thousands of additional troops into the region
If the objective is to seize Kharg Island, where Iran ships 90% of its oil, or the Strait of Hormuz, the Houthis will spring into action and threaten shipments through the Red Sea.
Then the cut off of oil will be 35 million barrels a day and the price of oil will shoot up astronomically.
Will Trump do more damage to the global economy? We shall see.
 

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How is Israel any different?

  • Israel does not fund terrorists
  • Israel has remained rational for 50 years and not used their nuclear weapons, despite being surrounded by enemies who seek to exterminate them
  • Israel has on multiple occasions offered peace. Iran prefers its own people suffer rather than make peace
 
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15 million barrels of oil a day flows through the neighbouring Red Sea, which so far is unaffected by this crazy war.
Trump is sending thousands of additional troops into the region
If the objective is to seize Kharg Island, where Iran ships 90% of its oil, or the Strait of Hormuz, the Houthis will spring into action and threaten shipments through the Red Sea.
Then the cut off of oil will be 35 million barrels a day and the price of oil will shoot up astronomically.
Will Trump do more damage to the global economy? We shall see.
Iran's funded terrorist nutjobs in Yemen the Houthis will spring into action ???
obligated are they ?



AI Overview

Iran is the primary benefactor of the Houthi movement in Yemen, providing extensive military, financial, and logistical support, making the group a key part of Tehran’s "
Axis of Resistance". Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) supplies advanced weaponry—including drones, missiles, and training—enabling Houthi attacks on shipping
how much damage to the global economy will Iran do with Nuclear Weapons ?

The Irrational religious nutjobs in Tehran do not give a rats ass about their own economy / people , let alone the world economy
 
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Wrong again, doofuss.... Israel has turned a balance of power into a powder keg, with attacks on Iran, Lebabon and of course their usual whipping boy, the Palestinians. And now, due to Isarel and the US's recent escalation, the mideast is blowing up. Meanwhile you cheer on the insane aggressors, Trump and Netanyahoo. You are pathetic.
Here is a list of peace offers which would have granted the Palestinians a country of their own, they refused all of them

1919: Arabs of Palestine refused nominate representatives to the Paris Peace Conference.
1920: San Remo conference decisions, rejected.
1922: League of Nations decisions, rejected.
1937: Peel Commission partition proposal, rejected.
1938: Woodhead partition proposal, rejected
1947: UN General Assembly partition proposal (UNGAR 181), rejected.
1949: Israel’s outstretched hand for peace (UNGAR 194), rejected.
1967: Israel’s outstretched hand for peace (UNSCR 242), rejected.
1978: Begin/Sa’adat peace proposal, rejected (except for Egypt).
1994: Rabin/Hussein peace agreement, rejected by the rest of the Arab League (except for Egypt).
1995: Rabin’s Contour-for-Peace, rejected.
2000: Barak/Clinton peace offer, rejected.
2001: Barak’s offer at Taba, rejected.
2005: Sharon’s peace gesture, withdrawal from Gaza, rejected.
2008: Olmert/Bush peace offer, rejected.
2009 to 2021: Netanyahu’s repeated invitations to peace talks, rejected.
2014: Kerry’s Contour-for-Peace, rejected.
2020 "Deal of the Century": Rejected by the Palestinian Authority.

Here is a list of peace offers the Palestinians offered to Israel -None.

Can’t make peace with someone who’s identity revolves around killing you

why do the other middle east terrorist attack Israel ?
Because Palestine has been unable to exterminate Israel


You are pathetic.
You are the poster boy for what is wrong with the loonie left
Too stupid to realise who the real uncompromising aggressors are.

When one combatant is uncompromising in its position that the opponent must be exterminated, there is only possible outcome
One of the combatants will die

But you lack the intelligence to understand this fact
And that is pathetic

If you do understand this fact
then that only leaves evil to explain your support

So lets find out
Given two and only two choices which would you choose
  1. Be exterminated
  2. take out those that seek to exterminate you ?
 
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Ghawar
Iran war is not Europe's war, not NATO's war; It is not anyone's war
but the war of Trump a world class thug and Israel the biggest
bully in the Middle East. The world outside
Israel would be better off if Trump pulls a full withdrawal of American
invaders out of the Middle East tomorrow. Historical details of the
Israel-Palestine conflict may pass as interesting material for discussion
in some college history course. It is more productive to let Israel
fight off its enemies by itself so long as American fighting dogs don't
run to the rescue of their master again.
 
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  • Israel does not fund terrorists
  • Israel has remained rational for 50 years and not used their nuclear weapons, despite being surrounded by enemies who seek to exterminate them
  • Israel has on multiple occasions offered peace. Iran prefers its own people suffer rather than make make peace
Israel is a terrorist state, they were founded on terrorism and continue terrorism daily.
There have been hundreds of state backed, settler terrorist attacks already this year.
And genocide is a form of terrorism.

 
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Klatuu

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Here is a list of peace offers which would have granted the Palestinians a country of their own, they refused all of them

1919: Arabs of Palestine refused nominate representatives to the Paris Peace Conference.
1920: San Remo conference decisions, rejected.
1922: League of Nations decisions, rejected.
1937: Peel Commission partition proposal, rejected.
1938: Woodhead partition proposal, rejected
1947: UN General Assembly partition proposal (UNGAR 181), rejected.
1949: Israel’s outstretched hand for peace (UNGAR 194), rejected.
1967: Israel’s outstretched hand for peace (UNSCR 242), rejected.
1978: Begin/Sa’adat peace proposal, rejected (except for Egypt).
1994: Rabin/Hussein peace agreement, rejected by the rest of the Arab League (except for Egypt).
1995: Rabin’s Contour-for-Peace, rejected.
2000: Barak/Clinton peace offer, rejected.
2001: Barak’s offer at Taba, rejected.
2005: Sharon’s peace gesture, withdrawal from Gaza, rejected.
2008: Olmert/Bush peace offer, rejected.
2009 to 2021: Netanyahu’s repeated invitations to peace talks, rejected.
2014: Kerry’s Contour-for-Peace, rejected.
2020 "Deal of the Century": Rejected by the Palestinian Authority.

Here is a list of peace offers the Palestinians offered to Israel -None.

Can’t make peace with someone who’s identity revolves around killing you

why do the other middle east terrorist attack Israel ?
Because Palestine has been unable to exterminate Israel



You are the poster boy for what is wrong with the loonie left
Too stupid to realise who the real uncompromising aggressors are.

When one combatant is uncompromising in its position that the opponent must be exterminated, there is only possible outcome
One of the combatants will die

But you lack the intelligence to understand this fact
And that is pathetic

If you do understand this fact
then that only leaves evil to explain your support

So lets find out
Given two and only two choices which would you choose
  1. Be exterminated
  2. take out those that seek to exterminate you ?
Every accusation by a Zionist is a confession
 

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Strangely the longer this conflict endures, the better the long term outlook improves for Canadian oil sands investment and LNG.
 
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