JD Vance Urged to Invoke 25th Amendment Against Trump

squeezer said:

So then instead of protesting at the University all the arabs should have gone and voted for Kamala in 2024 is what you're now saying.

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The only reason Bibi went into Lebanon is that he knew he had Trump's blessing. This isn't necessarily true had Kamala won. That being said, it doesn't matter who is in power, the US will always back their allie Israel to a certain point.

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Hard to say, militarily Israel and the US have devastated Iran, but on a political and economic level, Iran is taking the boots to Trump, and to be honest, I like it.

Add in if he brings in ground troops, as I suspect is the plan, it will be Trump's head if a lot of American lives are lost.

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Frankfooter said:

You think they should have voted for genocide just because it didn't also have a war with Iran?
That's really not very bright.
How about the dems should have forced Harris listen to the 80% of dems who backed a ceasefire during the election year?
Don't blame voters for Harris holding unelectable positions.

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Frankfooter said:

Israel was bombing Lebanon through the election. I don't recall her ever calling that out, just saying that Israel had a right to 'defend' itself.

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Frankfooter said:

The NYT confirmed that all american bases in the region have been emptied, the two aircraft carriers fled and the bombing is by B2's flying from the UK. Both Israel and the states have been firing 'standoff' missiles and not flying over the country to drop bombs, those are running low.

Israel and the states have dropped a lot of bombs but it appears mostly to be on civilian targets and Iran has not slowed down firing missiles. I think you thought Iran's missiles were mostly destroyed after the first week, IIRC.

My guess is that Iran sticks with the plan they started with and now continues to hit Israel and control the Hormuz until they decide its over.

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squeezer said:

I will just leave this here for your viewing pleasure

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mandrill said:

There frankly appears to be not even a glimmer of a workable plan. And the fact that the Chiefs of Staff might have guessed that Iran would close the Straits doesn't mean that Senile Dummyboy Donnie would have any idea that this would happen when he ordered the first strikes.

Every suggested plan appears to be disastrous bullshit. The USN hasn't mustered the firepower to open the Straits. In fact, their 2nd carrier in the area is now in harbour in Crete for extensive repairs and they sent their minesweepers back to the US a few weeks ago.

A battle group from the 82nd cannot take and hold Kharg Island and that target is itself 100's of miles from the Straits. And meanwhile, Iran blocks the Straits with impunity - except to compliant asskisser ships who pay an extortionate ransom.

It's a shitshow. And you claiming that "5 Dimensional Chess" Senile Dementia-boy has a secret plan is completely unconvincing.

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WyattEarp said:

You do realize for those of us who support the attack on Iran polling is the least of our concerns.
I would gladly take the midterm election pain to do what I think is necessary today.

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WyattEarp said:

Funny photo mandy.

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mandrill said:

There frankly appears to be not even a glimmer of a workable plan. And the fact that the Chiefs of Staff might have guessed that Iran would close the Straits doesn't mean that Senile Dummyboy Donnie would have any idea that this would happen when he ordered the first strikes.

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squeezer said:

Of course, your ilk were thinking on the level of scholars helping to get Trump elected. How's that worked for your side so far? Keep up the good work. LMFAO

As much as I want to see Trump fail, I also want to see folks with your delusional thinking fail, so I'm so torn about who to cheer for in this war.

I guess when Gavin goes for it in 2028 you will be cheering for the Republican candidate if Gavin doesn't become a Middle Eastern boot licker eh?

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Oh, so Hezzobola wasn't lobbying missles at Israel?? They were just waiving cotton candy and throwing tulips along the yellow brick road??

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Only in your narrative is Iran winning militarily but hey, if it helps you sleep at night, by all means, believe the nonsense you make up.

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squeezer said:

That's fine because the Republicans if the midterms were today, I'm sure if you are honest about it would admit they would take a serious ass-whoopin. The House is a sure bet, but I suspect they would flip the Senate as well if the midterms were being held in April.

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WyattEarp said:

I think this is a lot of conjecture. These battle plans probably go back to the Biden years.

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mandrill said:

Tell me how the US and Israel might potentially defeat Iran, Werpy?

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WyattEarp said:

I can tell already you will argue endlessly about what constitutes a defeat.

The "mow the grass" military strategy has been around for awhile. It's exactly what is sounds like. We should have employed this strategy in Afghanistan.

I will admit Trump gets hyperbolic about the war, but I just look at its inevitability and destroying Iran's nuclear and missile capability. Regardless of the terms of a settlement, the Democrats and the liberal media will harangue that an Iran solution was not achieved. That's politics. Political arguments don't have to be realistic.

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mandrill said:

How would you open the Straits of Hormuz?

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Trump's White House Faith Leader speaks in tongues

Resurfaced video shows Trump's newly appointed White House faith office leader, Pastor Paula White, speaking in tongues #paulawhite #speakingintongues #faith...

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WyattEarp said:

I can tell already you will argue endlessly about what constitutes a defeat.

The "mow the grass" military strategy has been around for awhile. It's exactly what is sounds like. We should have employed this strategy in Afghanistan.

I will admit Trump gets hyperbolic about the war, but I just look at its inevitability and destroying Iran's nuclear and missile capability. Regardless of the terms of a settlement, the Democrats and the liberal media will harangue that an Iran solution was not achieved. That's politics. Political arguments don't have to be realistic.

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Frankfooter said:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2037231592502902933

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WyattEarp said:

House yes.
Senate maybe.

There are a lot independent voters I know are not happy with the war criticism and pessimism from Democratic politicians.
That of course doesn't mean they will vote for Republicans in November.

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Frankfooter said:

I do wish you could refrain from the 'your ilk' type comments, that makes it a bit too obvious.
Newsome just declared he is still a zionist, good luck with that election. You can't understand why Harris lost and don't seem to see it still a problem.

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Frankfooter said:

Israel is still occupying parts of Lebanon and since the ceasefire was announced has broken it 10,000 times.
You seem to think that the right to self defence doesn't include Lebanese or Palestinians.

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• Israeli Violations: Reports indicated Israel continued, and at times increased, its routine air sorties, ground raids, and strikes against Hezbollah targets in southern Lebanon.
• Hezbollah Actions: While Hezbollah generally stopped direct rocket fire into Israel during the initial months, Israel considered its failure to disarm or pull back from southern borders a breach of the deal, often describing its strikes as defensive responses to "terrorist infrastructure".
• Status: The tenuous ceasefire has faced frequent disruptions, with significant concern over renewed, larger-scale conflict by late 2025 and early 2026.
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squeezer said:

Fine, I will call them your posse.

Nope, had it been Gavin instead of Kamala, the Dems would have won.







Following the November 27, 2024, ceasefire, both sides accused each other of violations. The Lebanese government, Hezbollah, and France accused Israel of breaking the agreement over 50 times in the first few days through airstrikes and ground actions. Israel accused Hezbollah of failing to comply, specifically regarding the disarmament and continued military presence, justifying continued IDF actions in South Lebanon.
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• Israeli Violations: Reports indicated Israel continued, and at times increased, its routine air sorties, ground raids, and strikes against Hezbollah targets in southern Lebanon.
• Hezbollah Actions: While Hezbollah generally stopped direct rocket fire into Israel during the initial months, Israel considered its failure to disarm or pull back from southern borders a breach of the deal, often describing its strikes as defensive responses to "terrorist infrastructure".
• Status: The tenuous ceasefire has faced frequent disruptions, with significant concern over renewed, larger-scale conflict by late 2025 and early 2026.
  www.nrc.no +6

Essentially, the ceasefire was not broken by a single, catastrophic event, but rather by repeated, persistent actions by both parties, with Israel focusing on sustained military presence and activity, and Hezbollah maintaining a physical presence in southern Lebanon.

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WyattEarp said:

I can tell already you will argue endlessly about what constitutes a defeat.

The "mow the grass" military strategy has been around for awhile. It's exactly what is sounds like. We should have employed this strategy in Afghanistan.

I will admit Trump gets hyperbolic about the war, but I just look at its inevitability and destroying Iran's nuclear and missile capability. Regardless of the terms of a settlement, the Democrats and the liberal media will harangue that an Iran solution was not achieved. That's politics. Political arguments don't have to be realistic.

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squeezer said:

Fine, I will call them your posse.

Nope, had it been Gavin instead of Kamala, the Dems would have won.

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Following the November 27, 2024, ceasefire, both sides accused each other of violations. The Lebanese government, Hezbollah, and France accused Israel of breaking the agreement over 50 times in the first few days through airstrikes and ground actions. Israel accused Hezbollah of failing to comply, specifically regarding the disarmament and continued military presence, justifying continued IDF actions in South Lebanon.
Wikipedia +1

• Israeli Violations: Reports indicated Israel continued, and at times increased, its routine air sorties, ground raids, and strikes against Hezbollah targets in southern Lebanon.
• Hezbollah Actions: While Hezbollah generally stopped direct rocket fire into Israel during the initial months, Israel considered its failure to disarm or pull back from southern borders a breach of the deal, often describing its strikes as defensive responses to "terrorist infrastructure".
• Status: The tenuous ceasefire has faced frequent disruptions, with significant concern over renewed, larger-scale conflict by late 2025 and early 2026.
  www.nrc.no +6

Essentially, the ceasefire was not broken by a single, catastrophic event, but rather by repeated, persistent actions by both parties, with Israel focusing on sustained military presence and activity, and Hezbollah maintaining a physical presence in southern Lebanon.

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